• Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Europeans need to understand that winning elections in the US really just means convincing 10,000-20,000 people in about 5 states who to vote for a couple days before the election.

    If this news plants a small seed of sympathy for Trump in the minds of those undecided voters it will swing the election.

    Our democracy is really pretty terribly implemented.

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      Yes OK but the part we don’t understand is how getting shot at is raising sympathy levels. The natural reaction would be even less get the person involved in politics because he attracts or directly causes extremism, chaos, and violence.

      You want a steady hand, not a drama queen as your leader, no?

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        4 months ago

        These are people who are making a decision about something very important with less than 72 hours to go. Do not assume they are acting rationally.

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        You really can’t understand how people are “being killed for being right”? Like if someone said the monarchy in Europe is bad and kings shouldn’t exist, and then the king does have them killed, that wouldn’t raise sympathy for the cause of the guy being killed, that kings shouldn’t exist?

        This is exactly how resistance spreads. People got killed for their beliefs. Other people saw that and thought “if they’re getting killed they are a threat to those in power, and thus likely right”. You don’t think “oh well this guy got killed for his beliefs, that must mean that his opinions are wrong”

        Obviously this is not what’s really happening with Trump, but it’s going to be spun like that by his propaganda team, and people are going to believe it.

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        Got my primary pamphlet recently, I was so disappointed to see the non-partisan rcv supportive candidate wasn’t running this year. They nearly won last election, too 😭

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        There’s tons of things we could do to improve it. But it will take a huge amount of political will that Americans just don’t have.

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          Yeah. My option is a baindaid but helps clear the murkiness out a bit. Gotta start somewhere as it’ll take a decade or so to get us back to being anything resembling a great nation. Right now we are a fear mongering hegemony war profiteering oligarchy.

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          Literally does nothing in the US system and is the fastest way for the fascist party to complete their takeover.

          Anyone advocating for this I’m assuming is either a troll or a paid shill.

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            The ability of the populous to reject what is offered is necessary to maintain a balanced system. I’m not exactly certain what you are expressing there but I stand by this belief.

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      It’s not really a democracy. Public opinion has absolutely no impact on whether something is made law or changed. The overwhelming majority of Americans support legalizing weed and medicare for all but neither goes anywhere.

      The US is an oligarchy that pretends to be a democracy to get people fighting culture wars instead of class wars.

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        Duopoly. Where both big businesses collude to maintain the market shares between them. DNC & RNC.

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        It absolutely is a democracy, just an extremely flawed democracy. If democracy were a scale from direct democracy to North Korea, then the USA would sit somewhere in the top third of countries.

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        The overwhelming majority of Americans support legalizing weed and medicare for all but neither goes anywhere.

        1. Legalizing weed has made massive strides in the past decade, after some 50 years of drug war.

        2. I wish the other one was true

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          “A majority of Americans continue to say the federal government has a responsibility to make sure all Americans have health care coverage.”

          Your own source says so

          But let’s add more:

          https://www.citizen.org/article/public-support-for-medicare-for-all/

          Recent polls indicate that six in ten Americans support Medicare-for-All. In addition, more than 60 percent believe that government is responsible for ensuring health coverage for all Americans. And nearly 70 percent of all voters, including battleground voters, identify health care as an important issue in upcoming elections.

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          The only reason the first one is true because it’s something the states can actually do. Not sure if any states have been trying to make a healthcare plan but I imagine that’s a lot harder to do then just saying weed is legal now. Basically right now stuff only gets done at a state level in America anymore with how divided and unproductive Congress is.

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              MA is basically the equivalent of a northern European country hiding in the US. Honestly, it’d pretty much be an oasis, save for the fact nobody can actually afford to live there.

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            Good on Hawaii! Not sarcastic or bitter, legit, good for them. The rest of the states would do well to follow Hawaii’s example.

            Unfortunately, I suspect that’s not going to be overnight.

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      Or if.more media attention and coverage of trump pushes a few people to vote rather than stay home he loses.