Trump after a shooting in Iowa that left one sixth-grader dead and six other staffers and students injured,
“So surprising to see it here. But, we have to get over it. We have to move forward…”
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how were the secret service not on the roofs or monitoring the roofs from aerial POV? Most obvious spot for a sniper.
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the dude interviewed by British journalist right after that says him and group saw man with gun climbing roof, told cops and secret service and neither did anything
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his first and only focus was his shoes?
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a man who is a documented coward and narcissist pushed against secret service to face cameras and have his head exposed for a long period of time?
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secret service ignores protocol to cover and remove him and let’s him vamp and pose
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straight lines of blood on his face, history with pro wrestling
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yes, the supposed gunman was killed, but on what day are there not thousands of trump cultists lined up and ready to die if someone tells them they are on a secret mission to help daddy?
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yes, some in crowd may have been injured, but when has trump shown any hesitation to have pale injured or killed for his personal benefit (January 6th, church protests, etc).
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his secret service were proven corrupt and involved in cover up measures for trump before (e.g. Deliberately erasing text messages relevant to January 6th)
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this all happens as project 2025 narrative was taking form hold, leaked video/audio by the day and days before the RNC.
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watch the footage, down the stairs, secret service is concerned with grabbing and carrying his special red hat? How the fuck would that ever be a concern in an actual emergency?
This is wild speculation and almost certainly not true. You do nothing but discredit leftists by creating conspiracies.
Amen
This is the dumbest shit and we need to fucking grow up a bit. These “questions” are asinine and not that hard to explain.
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Not denying the incident was reported, but there’s a heavy insinuation here that this was set up or manufactured. If so… They needed an entire Secret Service detail, local event police and everyone standing by to be in on it. A couple hundred people are going to be involved and no one leaks it?
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“Supposed” gunman. I like how you pivot from “this is probably set up” to “ok even if it was real Trump is capable of worse”
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Again, the insinuation of an inside job here. We’re going to involve a hundred or more people and no one thought it would be a problem to kill a bystander? Or the gunman was so good he killed a specific plant? And they had a 100% success rate… No one heard the plan and thought “oh this is a bad idea” and spoke out about it?
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Big difference between deleting text messages and MURDERING AN AMERICAN to further a political agenda.
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Yes. Things happen all the time. Trump people are saying this is to distract from Biden being inept. There’s always a convenient time.
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Yes you dumbshit he was concerned about his hat because they already had the all clear. The shooter got taken out in seconds. They wouldn’t have moved Trump. And they all were saying it was all clear. Also have you ever seen people in an absolute panic? Not the most rational state. Same thing with his shoes. That’s ALSO why he took the photo op. They all dove on top of him. They figured out the shooter’s location and took him down before Trump even got up.
There’s pictures of the fucking bullet in flight. So either that was ALSO manufactured (a member of the press willingly heard the plan ahead of time and doctored a photo or they actually shot a bullet inches away from Trumps head AND captured it). But no let’s just get Trump, a bumbly ass fuck to orchestrate this perfectly. I’m sure he had it a planned to go down, and everyone covered him and he pulled out a razor blade, cut his ear, and put it away, all perfectly executed and no one caught anything on camera from any of the dozens of angles.
This shit is so fucking stupid and I’m so sick of hearing about it. These points all rely on the most ass backwards way of thinking where dozens of people are in on this conspiracy and relies on all of them bring cool with killing someone to make it good for Trump.
Get this shit outta here. This doesn’t deserve the pixels on the screen used to illuminate this nonsense. Be a fucking grown up. We’re going to have to figure out a real way to beat Trump, not pretend this was some false flag bullshit. Accept reality. Be a goddamn adult.
I’m not even saying you’re wrong for questioning, but I am saying you are wrong because the sheer volume of things that would need to occur for this theory to be even remotely possible is so ridiculous, I would consider aliens an equally plausible situation.
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“history with pro wrestling” 😂
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It is crazy that one child rapist gets shot and the Republic falls
To understand why, you have to look at how broken things were that one of the two major parties chose him as their candidate. He’s a symptom, not the problem.
Things have been heading this way for 250 years, and the only ones who knew it were the entire rest of the world.
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This was after they had confirmed the shooter was dead.
He dropped before the secret service got there.
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No reason to assume he was the only one.
Unless you already knew.
Doesn’t make sense, you never assume there’s only one. It would be quite stupid to do so.
They more or less did. Watch the full video if you want to see.
The perspective here is a little weird, but he was pretty much immediately dogpiled by ~10 agents who all then guided him from the scene. He made them stop so he could fist pump for the crowd before leaving.
That said, the secret service apparently wasn’t keeping a close eye on nearby rooftops. They dropped the ball hard on this one.
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They did. You should watch the video
This is gonna make him a fucking martyr.
I get what you mean but Martyrs defining factor is that they’re dead.
The republicans aren’t big on reals, having a living martyr will suit their narrative just fine.
it’s not a conversation about “reals”, he’s making a comment about the English language and how that word means something else. He’s their living prophet or saint. That’s word to use in its place. No-one is questioning their narrative.
Please take target practice beforehand next time
It’s one for the history books.
I’m sure the kids in Vault 101 will love it.
oh well if it comes to that I wanna be in the vault with the laughing gas
Gaaaarryyyyy!
If you really believe this will end the country, then see if you can do what didn’t happen then.
Photographers generally want people to see their photos. So no, they were not thinking about the second part.
Pro here and ya I would want the exposure of this photo regardless of its context. Selfish maybe. But I could retire off this single photo
why would it be “selfish”?
war photography too is there and there were always discussions about its function.
As a photographer, you may hate trump and everything he represents, you’re responsible for documenting what’s happening there and then as well as you can.
yes, frame introduces interpretation and photography is never neutral but it’s fidelity to light is unquestionable. That relationship with “reality” must be what distinguishes a photographer from somebody holding their phone unwittingly in front of their face.
everybody can write, but then there are writers.
Brace for the “librul conpisracee” and how the white christian god saved trump by deflecting the bullet for maga
I say this as someone who saw a very similar play with jair bolsonaro in Brazil 2018, though it was a knife attack instead of a gunshot
An knife attack is easier to fake and make sure it’s not lethal.
Or just go out in November, and vote for Biden.
Nah, just vote for someone other than Trump. If you’re in a swing state, sure. But if you’re in a state that is extremely likely to vote one way or another (as most are), vote your conscience.
I’m in a deep red state where Biden has almost no chance, so I’m voting for Chase Oliver. He has the widest possible reach of the firmly anti-war candidates we have.
Voting for anyone other than Biden is dumb beyond belief if you want trump to lose.
Yep there’s a lot of dramatic panic, and it needs to be translated into action not apathy.
Assassination attempts don’t translate to election wins.
Stick to the plan, GET OUT AND VOTE!
My memory tells me that they usually do translate into wins. Do you have any stats?
Teddy Roosevelt would like to have a word with you.
I’m afraid I wasn’t alive when that happen. Did he lose that election? And is that the mist recent example?
Bud, use Google and figure it out. I don’t agree with these guys you’re arguing with, but Jesus Christ, just use the internet.
Not even arguing, just asking. Not interested enough to really Google it.
Let me know how that works for you.
Worked great last election! Happy to see the pedophile lose again.
Biden? Why not someone else? I don’t like either of them but holy shit please not Biden again…
Because I don’t want trump to win and that’s the only option… are you for real right now is this a serious question?
You’re making it the only option… like seriously, Biden is not good (a lot of democrats are embarrassed and admitting this too) and if we don’t pick someone else, Trump is 100% going to win this year. You guys need to understand, that debate was god awful for Biden, and now with Trump being nearly assassinated people are going to see him as some sort of martyr. For crying out loud, pick someone else!
You realize I don’t have the power to do shit by myself. You are a moron man, I’m not the one calling the shots.
Bro, you can vote for someone else… what do you mean you don’t have power to do shit yourself? Encourage others to do the same. Have fun watching Trump win the election, I guess.
Don’t listen to this idiot
“Don’t listen to this idiot”
The photographer was hired to be ready to take this shot, so it’s not as impressive
Proof again that the press is just there to stir the shit and get views, who cares what happens to the country.
The big press like CNN and Fox are all for Trump. He generated so many clicks for them, massive amount of income from advertisers. With Biden the government got back to doing what it does and is boring.
Why do you think CNN allowed Trump to lie constantly during that debate? It’s a fucking joke.
Idk why everyone is assuming this will make him win. He’s still a fascist. People who weren’t voting for him before aren’t going to start now just because he was shot. People don’t like him for a reason. If people liked him he wouldn’t be shot at lol
I wouldn’t be so sure. Back in 2018 when Bolsonaro (also a very extreme fascist) was running for president in Brazil, someone also attempted to kill him and very nearly succeeded, and it’s pretty much agreed that the failed assassination attempt gave him a massive poll boost and helped him win. I personally had the unfortunate experience of dealing with people here who were previously undecided but afterward decided to vote for Bolsonaro because they saw him as a vicitm trying to be silenced.
Considering how US elections are severely lopsided to depend on a couple handful of states that demographically generally aren’t affected by the risks of fascism and therefore generally see American elections as a harmless sport, there’s a very real possibility they’ll see Trump as a “martyr” trying to be silenced and throw their vote behind him.
It also seriously doesn’t help that Biden’s just been making far too many gaffes while Trump came off like a “defiant strongman” over this. I hope I’m wrong, but I’m extremely pessimistic about this being anything but a massive win for Trump.
People who weren’t voting for him before aren’t going to start now just because he was shot
The decided voters are pretty much irrelevant. They made up their mind a long time ago. The issue is the swing voters.
Unfortunately, we have evidence that surviving an assassination attempt leads to a boost in approval. Reagan surviving an assassination attempt led to a big jump in his approval rating:
"In the wake of the assassination attempt, Reagan’s approval ratings jumped – providing a new baseline that propelled his legislative agenda forward and helped translate to his broad-based re-election. "
https://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/03/30/avlon.reagan.shooting/index.html
Reagan surviving an assassination attempt led to a big jump in his approval rating:
It helped that it was a re-election and our economy was experiencing a huge upswing due to the tech boom at the time from Silicone Valley.
Trump’s situation is very different. But couple this with Biden’s recent public, let’s say faux pas. And we do have a recipe for disaster brewing.
Silicone Valley
Los Angeles? But seriously…
Generally, surviving an assassination attempt gives you a boost in support. That is a pattern that has been repeated often. Another recent example is the attempted assassination of Bolsonaro in Brazil. He’s often called Brazil’s Trump. This case could be different, but odds are it’s not going to result in undecided voters saying “hmm, the shooter was probably right, I’ll side with him”.
The situation in the US was a disaster even before this happened. IMO this can only make things worse.
This. It could have an energizing effect on his voting base, especially with the way the old bastard never shuts up about anything. His mouth is a faucet of incendiary idiocy; surviving this is like smashing it off the sink.
While I love that analogy, thinking about faucets and Trump in the same sentence just has me thinking about his water pressure rants.
Generally speaking, the economy tends to be the biggest driver for voting trends, and “the economy” is doing fine by most measures. Yeah, things are expensive, but they’re not getting expensive faster, stocks are pretty stable, and borrowing rates are stabilizing and even coming down a little.
By all historical signals, that should give Biden a bit of a boost, and what he needs to do to win is successfully blame Trump for inflation (i.e. inflation from COVID relief) and other COVID-related market problems. Point out that he pushed for keeping borrowing rates low, which would’ve made inflation so much worse. If the average person understands that Trump’s policies were instrumental in causing the problems we see today (and most economic indicators have a few years lag), then Biden should get a boost.
But to do that, Biden needs to string two coherent sentences together, and he seems to be struggling at that…
Who tf is still a swing vote though in the States. If your head is stuck that far into the sand, are you even going to hear about Trump getting shot?
It only serves to play into the rhetoric. It empowers the base. The victim complex becomes justified and like for like retaliation is only fair and what they deserve. The silent majority is once again being silenced!!!
/S
It’s not hard to think of a bunch of ways this plays into a fascists hand.
He will win because his opponents are fucking useless
But people that were on the fence no longer will be. They will 100% swing his now. It’s 110% over. Especially after bidens mishaps over the last couple weeks i.e. debate, calling zelenzky putin as well misnaming many others. It’s over
the issue aren’t those two groups of people. The issue is the third. Those who weren’t going to vote before, which is usually around 30% to 60% of the country.
Now, of those who weren’t going to bother to vote, about 55% to 70% of them would vote for a Democratic president.
However, the 30% to 45% of those remaining - those are the ones who will be most likely ‘energised’ by this and convinced to vote. That extra turn out could turn it into a Republican landslide.
The prediction markets and gambling odds for the race have all swung drastically after the attempt. If Biden was going to win, betting on it now would net you a pretty good chunk of cash. Biden isn’t even predicted to have a good chance of winning the popular vote at the moment.
It’s over. It was definitely a false flag op Are yall ready for a 100 year reign of terror from the trump family. Here comes the monarchy. I here Mexico is nice this time of year. Buckle up cause project 25 is incoming in 3, 2, boom
I doubt they thought or think about the welfare of the country.
