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    Brace for the “librul conpisracee” and how the white christian god saved trump by deflecting the bullet for maga

    I say this as someone who saw a very similar play with jair bolsonaro in Brazil 2018, though it was a knife attack instead of a gunshot

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      Nah, just vote for someone other than Trump. If you’re in a swing state, sure. But if you’re in a state that is extremely likely to vote one way or another (as most are), vote your conscience.

      I’m in a deep red state where Biden has almost no chance, so I’m voting for Chase Oliver. He has the widest possible reach of the firmly anti-war candidates we have.

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        Voting for anyone other than Biden is dumb beyond belief if you want trump to lose.

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      Yep there’s a lot of dramatic panic, and it needs to be translated into action not apathy.

      Assassination attempts don’t translate to election wins.

      Stick to the plan, GET OUT AND VOTE!

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        Worked great last election! Happy to see the pedophile lose again.

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      Biden? Why not someone else? I don’t like either of them but holy shit please not Biden again…

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        Because I don’t want trump to win and that’s the only option… are you for real right now is this a serious question?

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          You’re making it the only option… like seriously, Biden is not good (a lot of democrats are embarrassed and admitting this too) and if we don’t pick someone else, Trump is 100% going to win this year. You guys need to understand, that debate was god awful for Biden, and now with Trump being nearly assassinated people are going to see him as some sort of martyr. For crying out loud, pick someone else!

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    Especially if it comes out that you were a sucker playing along with false flaggy shit.

    Not saying that’s the case, but if it was you’d want a photo like that.

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    This photo looks like propaganda from a fabricated event, not a real candid from an actual attempt on a political figurehead’s life.

    Why is the flag upside down?

    Why is it perfectly in frame to fill the space that would otherwise be blank sky?

    Why was Trump allowed by his security detail to stand back up?

    It’s all extremely suspicious and screams “preplanned” to me

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      In the photo he is standing in the same spot as he was when he was speaking. So it would make sense that an astute photographer would have already lined up this shot on a tripod from when he was speaking. That’s what I would have done

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        I understand why Trump would be in frame, but not why the flag would be in the same spot AND upside-down.

        If the flagpole fell in the confusion, that could explain it being upside-down but not in frame.

        If the flag were already there, that would explain it being in frame but not upside-down.

        It all seems too coincidental.

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          It’s not upside down, but I agree that it sure looks planned. Somehow every fucking situation that could sink trump always happens to help him.

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          this reads like conspiratorial thinking tbh. Its easy to grab at the idea that this is somehow Trump’s doing, but things like this do sometimes happen

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            I so desperately want it to be revealed to be a conspiracy because it would further discredit Trump. But I know it isn’t, which is so utterly terrifying for our democracy.

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      Why is it perfectly in frame to fill the space that would otherwise be blank sky?

      It could have been cropped.

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      The flag is likely quite comically large (as in a hundred or more feet long), decently far away, and is being ‘hung’ by basically small construction cranes, which are holding it such that if there was no wind, it would be hanging vertically.

      There is significant wind, so its going with the direction.

      Zoom in on the connector point and you can see basically a jerry rigged, oversized winch. Theres a similar winch at the other point on the right side of the image, and the crane is presumably out of frame.

      Its perfectly in frame because some photographers are quite good at their jobs.

      Trump was allowed to stand up because he could, under his own power, and the shooter had already been declared down at that point.

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      Eh, I don’t think you can take a shot at a Trump really that doesn’t have an American flag somewhere on it.

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      It’s not upside down, that’s just the angle. It’s just hanging vertically. Even if it were hanging upside down, though, that wouldn’t be unusual for this lot. A lot of Maga fucks fly it that way around here, almost as a way of saying how fucked they see this country. It plays into their victim complex.

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        I remember when you’d go check on someone if you saw their flag flying upside-down. These idiots have turned it into a political statement instead.

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      If you watch the video you can see how it all fits together. It’s just a very good photographer doing their job.

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        I agree. I don’t actually think it’s staged having seen the footage for myself and reading statements made by the secret service. My other comments are my first reactions to seeing this image

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      How could a Pulitzer prize winning photographer manage to take a very good photo? Surely it must be staged. I bet Trump paid that guy the secret service killed to shoot him and kill an attendee!

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      You see, it’s that sort of conspiracy bullshit that will erode everything.

      Could it be the work of a professional photographer bringing their A game? No, it must be staged.

      Why are all these random things like that? It must be “preplanned” …or… Maybe you would have found similar things in any photograph from a political rally.

      Thing is, you sound like a classic MAGA when you say daft stuff.

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        I agree. It’s an incredible photo and the details that I didn’t know when making the parent comment all support that it’s real.

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    I feel like it’s at least possible that this will work like that trick of if you can’t decide between two things, toss a coin and call it and then notice how you feel. Like a coin was tossed here and maybe some of these dead inside non-voters will feel something, maybe an anxiety, the absence of relief, wistful. You can act on that. It’s not too late.

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    The real thing to report on is how while (aparently, because initial reports said no crowd deaths, then Fox reported a crowd death, and now everyone is reporting a crowd death), noone ran. They just kinda mulled around, then started chanting “USA. USA. USA.”

    Behold gentlemen. Fascism manifest.

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        Nice pic dude.

        My point was the whole being desensitized to gunfire and someone being shot right in front of you, and responding to not only a public shooting, but an assassination attempt with “USA! USA! USA!” like they were at fucking Medieval Times eating a chicken with their bare hands and drinking diet coke and the green knight just took a flail to the bread basket.

        I have learned when to hesitate before I ingest media, and I’m still assessing the situation.

        For either eventuality, we (Americans) are all so screwed, and the rest of the world is on notice.

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          Someone hollered “shooter down”, then Trump got up from under the pile of secret service agents. Under those circumstances it doesn’t seem that strange for the crowd to be a little pumped up. But yes, these situations usually take a few days to settle and for the facts to come out. Rumor mills and conspiracy theory engines are going to be in overdrive meanwhile.

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          On top of the other comment, they’re stadium style bleachers. They are not easily evacuated.

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    You mock the ever living shit out of the photo. Fascists love to look strong and mocking the photo dispels the myth of appearing strong.

    *Edit: As Robert Evans said “blood is cool, milkshakes aren’t” when talking about Richard Spencer getting humiliated with getting a milk shake thrown at him.

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        Make sure those water balloons have been sitting in the sun a bit. Gotta make sure that they had a chance to develop a nice smell. Bonus points, if you can get your target to puke everywhere.

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          Yeah this occupied like 5 minutes of my family’s time last night. Our daughter heard about it first. She ran upstairs and told my wife about the same time I saw a news article pop up. My wife and I just kind of shrugged and went about our business.

          I’m just surprised it took this long for someone to give it a go. These violent delights have violent ends.

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      Pro here and ya I would want the exposure of this photo regardless of its context. Selfish maybe. But I could retire off this single photo

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        why would it be “selfish”?

        war photography too is there and there were always discussions about its function.

        As a photographer, you may hate trump and everything he represents, you’re responsible for documenting what’s happening there and then as well as you can.

        yes, frame introduces interpretation and photography is never neutral but it’s fidelity to light is unquestionable. That relationship with “reality” must be what distinguishes a photographer from somebody holding their phone unwittingly in front of their face.

        everybody can write, but then there are writers.

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    This came out so perfect part of me wonders if there is a god and I am some poor sinner getting punished.

    Like, fuck man. This assassin missed and hit all of us. This is everything they want and you can pick out a number of other photos a lot like it that where incredible. These last two months basically lined up perfectly for Trump.

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      It arguably could have been worse if they’d killed him. Opening space for someone just as vile but actually intelligent, who could easily just roll through to president on the back of “Saint Trumpf the Martyr”…

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        After hearing the fireworks going off in my Maga-heavy area last night, I’m really not sure that the gunman missing was the better outcome. Trump has a special following in the republican party that gathers followers from those outside the party that wouldn’t ordinarily vote.

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        Yeah, one of the redeeming qualities of Trump is that he’s incredibly stupid, and refuses to let advisors correct him. Makes him super ineffective. They had control of white house and both chambers and they did just limited damage.

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          As someone outside of the US, I would say that the fallout to other countries is substantial. Not due to policies, but rather rhetoric.

          Where I live, neo-nazis used to hide-- but now all the bigots, emboldened by Trump, are organizing. The right-wing opposition party leader walks among them and isn’t immediately shunned/removed. This is echoed around the globe.

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          I do concur. I am astounded at the incompetence of the ones pulling the strings of the Republican party. Sure they got some Supreme Court justices in place, but man, they really, really messed up in 2020 letting the Democrats gain control of the Whitehouse. All they had to do was strong arm Trump into making the COVID stuff a patriotic war against an invisible virus, and he would have sweeped the election. Nope they shortsightedly let him retard it up, thinking it would kill more people in cities, ie Democratic voters. Lulz

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            He could have even taken credit for the vaccine and call it the Maga vaccine or something, but no, it’s better to promote horse paste. Alas.

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        Who? Who would be capable of gathering the trump support and getting enough votes? Part of the right wing powerful 1 guy thingy is this: 1 guy. Take the guy away, and you have no idea what would happen and if someone else would manage to keep the gathered power going and maybe gather even more. Would be very different if trump were president when it happened, then the power is formalised and the takeover by another supervillain easier, but during campaign that would be quite the feat and I’m really wondering who would have been capable of it.

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          I agree with your take. The power vacuum would be incredible. In my country, I’ve seen a political party completely collapse from infighting after its charismatic leader was assassinated.

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        The problem with this line of thinking is that the GOP doesn’t have anyone else. They’re a cult of personality for Trump and only Trump. We saw all the alternatives get paraded around in the GOP “primary,” none of them are anywhere close to taking the reins. There’s a very good chance that without Trump, the cult begins to fall apart.

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      “This assassin missed and hit all of us.”

      This is such an elegant and iconic line. History will view that as the truth.

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        They didn’t miss. The US government will think twice about appointing a president half of the country wants dead. Power fear chaos and unrest among people, they want to have everything in control under their eye.

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          Trump is about to implement Project 2025, which will make the rich people in the USA so goddamn wealthy it will make your head spin. The middle class will be gone and all that money transferred up. Why would they not want Trump?

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            Trump is about to implement Project 2025, which will make the rich people in the USA so goddamn wealthy it will make your head spin.

            Billionares are so rich already that trying to visualize their wealth will indeed make your head spin. The middle class died decades ago. They may not want Trump because the majority of people already live in poverty and they are just waiting to turn into an angry mob

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      This came out so perfect part of me wonders if there is a god and I am some poor sinner getting punished he is an evil, petty, piece of shit.

      Seriously, go read the Old Testament.

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    Get your guns, beans, and gasoline. Vote and then pray you won’t have to dip into those reserves, but steel yourselves for when you must. Good luck.

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      That sounds like the start of a country song about prepping

      Get your guns, beans, and gasoline

      But pray that you don’t need 'em

      Pray and vote, vote and pray

      And hope enough to feed 'em

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    Why does trump have secret service if he is not the president? Sorry dumb canadian moment

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      Not only do all former presidents get a detail, all frontrunners with a credible shot at winning get secret service protection. I’m not sure what the exact requirements for that are, but Trump would almost certainly meet them.

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      The Secret Service protects not just the president, but their family, major runners for the race, and their families. Due to the assassination of Robert Kennedy in 1968, the Secret Service was made to protect all major runners for the presidency, as his assassination could have been stopped if he had more protection than the event’s guards.

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        That’s actually really cool, surprised I didn’t know this

        I reckon this will come to Canada soon too. Trudeau used to go to metro stations and just say good morning to people on their way to work after he won first term. He doesn’t do this anymore for obvious reasons