• Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    From the US here. They have uses as work trucks but the majority of these bro-dozers are pristine and have have never hit any water deeper than a pothole in the road.

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      people keep saying that they have uses as work trucks and i’m not sure i believe them because they made smaller trucks in the 90s and 80s and those trucks were still for work?

      I mean i’ve seen one of these things towing 5 fucking cars. I can’t think of the last time i had to load up 5 cars on a shipping trailer and then ship them on my fucking daily driver. Honestly i didn’t even think that was possible, but apparently it is, and i have no idea why people own these things as daily drivers now.

      to be clear, my issue here is that saying they have uses is underselling the problem. You can hire a semi with a flatbed to ship a bag of sand. But that’s fucking stupid.

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      Everyone I know in the US that owns trucks like what op shared are all work trucks for general contractors or were bought to pull their giant campers. I know the bro-dozer community you’re talking about but those trucks are not usually new trucks like op’s. This is in rural America tho not the suburbs so maybe it’s different in other areas.

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        A neighbor runs his own plumbing company. He’s got an early 2000s Dodge and formerly an early 2000s Ford.

        His main complaint about modern trucks, after the price, is the bed being too high for him to easily load and unload equipment.

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          Work vans are the superior work vehicle for the majority of use cases. Lower bed/floor height to make loading easier. Covered rear so your tools/product doesnt get wet or dirty. Able to carry a ton of equipment, taller models you can even stand in and use a workbench in the van. The side of the van is large and flat making it easier to print large letters and numbers to advertise the company. Most modern work vans have better visibility than similarly sized trucks.

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          Yeah I’m no mechanic but I think it’s from the way their doing the suspension to increase tow load. I can’t remember the truck models but it was the largest model vs the 2nd largest model had the exact same engine size and sp3cs but the larger truck had a way larger low weight than the other and I was told it all came down to the differences in the transmission and suspension. I 100% agree tho I have worked jobs that had trucks with beds that were so fuckin stupid high it turned loading/unloading to a 2 part or 2 person task. Once onto the tailgate. Second to move to front of bed when normally we could just give a good toss and load the truck in fraction of the time.

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    Never been to the US, only now with this picture do I realize the size of these things. That’s basically a monster truck ? are there many of them ?

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      Picture is from Australia but yes the US is littered with these, especially in rural communities but there are more in the cities than their should be

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      This picture is from Australia. We don’t have many, they’re becoming more common but ones that are lifted like that are less common. On my area it’s mainly normal rams. Which are far bigger than normal aussie cars.

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      Visited upstate NY a couple of years ago. They accounted for I’d say 30-40% of all traffic. Of course, upstate NY is basically the southern US of the northern US if you know what I mean.

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      I live in Imperial Beach, California. There is absolutely no reason to have one of these monstrosities here, and none of the 15 that live in my neighborhood ever have any type of mud on them. Not even the 4 whose hoods are at my eye level, I’m 6’3" / 192cm, because they lifted the hell out of them. I will admit that the guy who has an 8’4" tall old school VW bug may be a bit strange, but at least that thing looks cool, and he has it as an advertisement for his shop, so there was a reason for him to have the thing.

      Ironically the VW is the only one that ever has any mud on it.

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      I’ve done photography most of my life, and it’s the first time I’m hearing about “bent photos”. Tell me more, I’m interested what it is and how it affects scale.

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          I am an IT with photography as a hobby, I only really picked it up seven years ago, and even as someone who is not well versed in photography I have never heard the term “bent” to describe a photograph

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                  I literally have no idea what it means. You can bend a stick. How do you bend a photo which is a 2D plane. Some warp tool?

                  There’s nothing going on in this photo, except for photographer standing closer to the truck, and maybe a cheap tilt-shift effecr, but that doesn’t even mess with the perceived size.

                  Since you stated that the photo is “bent”, like an expert, I’ve addressed you like an expert.

                  Show some doubt sometimes, especially when you have no idea what you are talking about.

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              “Unsurprising”? why aren’t you simply nice and explain what you meant?

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            “Bent” is an old word for “crooked, fake”. It’s not a photography term, it’s plain English, the guy’s just too much of an asshole to clarify.

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    He needs the large crew cab to have somewhere to put his groceries. Because he doesn’t want to get that bed scratched.

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      Well you don’t want groceries in the bed mostly because it will be thrown around since it’s just open space…

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          Things are pretty fantastic when you use them for that they’re made to do… Try safely carrying 20 4’x8’ sheets of sheetrock in a small car.

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              The one in the picture isn’t stock, the owner made it impractical unless he pulls trailers with a goose neck on the regular.

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            A van will have more cargo volume for the same wheelbase, be easier to load, and have the cargo be covered from the elements. Those are made for carrying stuff. Pick-ups are made only to show that the owner is compensating for something.

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              Pickups let you load stuff as high as you want to and the open sides can make things much simpler. Try loading a couple of loads of dirt in a van.

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                For home use I have seen most people buy dirt in bags. A sedan or even a compact would handle carrying those. The open sides can be a benefit for sure, but I don’t know about putting cargo ‘as high as you want to,’ given that wind is a thing. And vans are pretty tall anyway!

                I understand that they can have some utility on a farm or something, but the average person is not regularly transporting a ‘couple loads of dirt’ in suburbia.

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                  And I never said the average person should own a truck but buying dirt in bulk (measured in yards) isn’t unusual if your house has space for a garden and it’s way cheaper than buying bags of it. Same for carrying lumber that would be too long for a van.

                  Also it’s very funny that if you want to be able to do most of things a truck can do, the alternative to a truck should be a contractor’s van which has worse visibility on the sides and at the back, is just as big or bigger than a truck and uses the same engine…

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        Aren’t there cargo nets and other accessories for that? I get it if you have perishable groceries that need to be kept frozen until you get home and it’s hot outside.

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          Indeed. Hell my old Ranger had a gap in the bed liner so I could slide a 2x4 (I think I actually used a 2x6) in place and have a perfect divider for groceries right at the tailgate. It was simple and worked perfect. When it was time to do truck shit the board just lifted up and got tossed in with the bricks or whatever.

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        My dad always has trucks, whole 30 years of my life. To prevent groceries flying around you tie the bags and put them close to the cab, unless they’re really light and that case you put them in the cab. He never had crew cab until much later in my life so stuff had to go in the bed as 90s extended cabs were not very extended lol the days of the single fold down seat behind the main front seats sucked for me

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      I watched a guy load bags of soil from the hardware store into the back seats of the crew cab while he had an empty bed. The bed would have been easier to load and could easily be hosed down if a bag leaked. I guess he forgot it was also a truck and not just a luxury commuter car.

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    Not arguing with the statement being made here but the tilt shift photography makes that picture much worse than it is in reality. Again, I completely disagree with these giant atrocities rolling down the road but still this photo is not accurate by any means.

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      There is no tilt shifting in that photo. Neither physical (by actually tilting a single lens inside the lens assembly) nor digital. What you’re seeing as blurryness is just normal how camera focus works.

      They may have applied a slight vignette blur to the edges, but it’s really hard to tell with the light bleed on the left edge.

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        He means there is deliberate perspective making the big truck even bigger in the photo.

        Notice how the whels of the small SUV are the same size. And the front tire on the big truck is like 20% bigger than the rear.

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          That may well be the case that this is what he means, but how would we know when he calls it tilt shift anyway? Cause that’s not what “tilt shift” means.

          If he wants to say it’s photoshopped or whatever, just say that instead of using terms that clearly don’t apply.

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      I see some blurring, probably deliberate, on the left edge of the image. I don’t think this is “tilt shifted” and I don’t think the effect you’re describing would make the one truck seem larger than the other.

      I don’t disagree with your point that the image is chosen specifically because it excessively highlights the difference in size… but I’d say it has more to do with the angle and the order of the trucks than any post fx.

      Also, srsly: no tilt shift.

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        That’s cool, I’m no photographer but there’s something at play here skewing the perspective. Def not gonna argue if it is or isn’t tilt shift, I don’t fuckin know

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          Yeah, depth of field is all over the map. It doesn’t make sense. Text in focus behind the truck, but not the SUV, even though it’s further away.

          My vote is a composite. Several images merged together.

          EDIT: oh yeah. Tree is a seam. Bush behind the truck bed is 2 colors and focuses. And the trucks back bumper… bad masking.

          Tilt shift generally makes things look miniature like a model.

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            Are we sure it isn’t just the automatic filters that get applied when you snap a photo on a modern smartphone? Like where it tries to pick out the subject and blur the background?

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          I dont know much about much or anything either but I thought tilt shift made things look smaller but idk you know

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          Remember that photo of the Bidens with the Carters where the Bidens looked like giants compared to the Carters? It was an illusion caused by the use of a wide angle lense. Makes things around the edge look bigger.

          This photo looks like it was taken with a wide angle lens and then the left side was cropped off. Look at the difference in size between the wheels on the truck.

          These pickup trucks are still stupid though.

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    Y’all won’t how a camera works 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    This is painfully obvious what this propaganda is trying to do. Then y’all take it a step further by making stories up about the driver. Like sitting in a GOP strategy room, just a notch or two less evil than the actual GOP members.

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      What seam?

      Regarding propaganda, just because something is propaganda doesn’t mean it is automatically a lie. It just means that it is being used for political gains.

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        You folks make me so sad for our future. I sit here watching the GOP and fascist countries gaining power while I watch the folks who should care race them to the bottom.

        This specifically is just a lex extreme version of the US bombing the middle east to stop terrorists.

        These images get used as accurate portrayals of progressive lies and gets added to the pile of leftist conspiracies. These things essentially become an onboarding packet.

        Whatever, it’s just a meme I guess.

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          What agenda is being pushed by a camera angle that makes the truck look 10% bigger? Its still a massive truck and I think it was mostly photographed this way to show the grills and hoods of both vehicles, not to embelish the size.

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            Sure, this image calling the truck with a lift a monstrosity with perspective that clearly makes the size delta as large as possible was just chosen at random 👌👍

            The hoops you are jumping through here qualifies for a circus act. 10%, my goodness that suv could be near fully imposed on just the door panels. The height of the SUV is at the truck bed ffs 🤣

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    That truck is also raised. I drive a ‘normal’ size SUV and once drove past one of those raised trucks in a parking lot - its hood was as high as my roof.

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    If there’s a full grown man standing in front of my truck and I can still see him, I just don’t feel safe!

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        Black bears wouldn’t have a chance of survival being hit with that thing. Grizzlys might slow the truck down, maybe. A Polar Bear is the only type of bear I can think of that you’d really need a tank sized vehicle to deal with it. Heck even a Giant Panda is just gonna bat at you to get you to go away since you aren’t bamboo.

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    Both of these look terrible and very stressfull to drive.

    My 2021 Seat Leon hatchback fits my entire family, with luggage for a weekend, while being fun and relaxing to drive.

    These monstrosities are idiotic.

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      I hate how much they are spreading for no reason. We have rather small parking lots, especially in denser areas and underground parkings. Some 20 years ago that was never a problem at all. Now people take forever to park their shitty cars. People have to get out before they park, so they just stand in the way. Many use 2 parking spots because their fat asses can’t get out of their fat cars, or they just can’t drive in general and decided they need the biggest car they can afford to get groceries.

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        This shit is like tobacco. We all know it’s fucking awful and makes no sense, but some assholes insist.

        So treat it the same way: massive taxes (upon purchase, but also yearly), banned in many public places (underground parking, city centers, …) and there you go.

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      Oh they can totally be, first job out of uni in 2012 had diesel f350 super duties as field service vehicles, they made sense for some jobs where it was super remote and rough driving (1000+ km a tank), they’ve since gone to 2 panel vans and a truck which is way more handy. They’re super high off the ground so you need to be careful and most importantly, use your mirrors, these were all tow capable so they had the larger mirrors with the second parabolic mirror, you can effectively minimise blind spots to your sides and behind (I think all car mirrors should be that way, I added them to my sedan’s mirrors) but they still turn slow and are heavy. A chunk of my coworkers outright refused to use them, instead opting for rentals, and others were definitely white knuckling it the entire time they used them.

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        Wouldn’t you want something light and small for off roading?

        That should help you clear obstacles by goong over or around easier.

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          It depends on the circumstances, ground clearance is a bitch. Seriously a light car say a Jeep Cherokee sport can have a lot of ground clearance via lift kit but it fucks with the balance. Meanwhile an f350 can just kinda do it by default.

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          What vaultdweller said, ground clearance matters a lot if you’re not going fast, you can plow through a lot of snow in a truck that I’ve got stuck in a compact with.

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    I wonder how big these things are compared to European lorry? That thing is fucking huge!