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        You sure you’re not thinking of the Pound symbol (£)? The Euro symbol (€) would have to be a third thing, if it’s there at all.

        I’m not British and don’t know their keyboard layout, so maybe you’re right, but I would expect £ to be accessible and € less so.

        Edit: oh, you were right. £ is Shift+3, € is AltGr+4.

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          Just looking at a random selection of two laptops and five keyboards here and they all have the 4 $ € key marked. The only keyboard I can find that doesn’t is the Windows On-Screen Keyboard.

          Although looking at laptops on shop websites, a lot of them have just 4 $ so maybe that is going out of fashion? Samsung yes, Asus no, Dell no, HP no.

          Actually the Windows On-Screen Keyboard does show € but only after you press Alt-Gr…

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    I’m still trying to find out how people make that flipped d. /s

    On Windows, win+r ‘charmap’ <enter> in case anyone ever needs it. On other OS/Window managers, I’m not sure off-hand about the shortcuts.

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        Set a key as a modifier key and program the character provider function in your text editor to to give the corresponding capital letter of whatever key is pressed, in case the modifier key is down.
        Even better, you can use the same modifier key with number keys and other symbol keys to give an alternative symbol, which you could also indicate on the keyboard.
        Let’s call this the Shif… oh wait, what year is this?

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    You kid, but as an Canadian Anglophone, this is what I do any time I have to send an email to someone with a French name with an accented character.

    Yes, I know the special character menu is a thing, but I have shit to do.

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      We (Canadians) actually have two layouts to type French characters. The modern Canadian multilingual layout, and the traditional “French (Canada)” layout. As an older French speaking Canadian, I prefer the traditional layout but both work. You can even type English words with these.

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        It’s always some bitch named Hélênè.

        (This was accomplished by searching, in no particular order, ‘e accent aigu’, ‘Pokemon wikipedia’, and ‘e with pointy hat’)

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          H̴̢̰̙̬͆́́̊̑́̽͐̐é̸͓̼̋́̍ͅľ̵̨̛̲̠͎̠̮̮̙̠͕̖̖̥̰͚́̈͌͒̆̈̆ê̶̘̘̘̮̙̪̦̹̟̩̂̋̀̊̊̈́̐̍̈́͗̒̃̽͐̕n̷͍̺̻̱̰̳̦͒̊͂̄̽͑̍̃̂͗͆͘͜è̴̦͚̮͎̖̖̩̻͉͋̀̌̅̒̇͌ is such a b̴e̷a̸u̴t̷i̴f̵u̷l̴ n̵̡̢̡̨̨̢̡̧̡̧̧̨̢̨̧̨̢̧̨̡̨̧̢̛̗̗̻̬͈̗̖͈̙̫̠͕̥̲̲̙͕͕̣̞͉̦̙̗̻̥̝̼̬͉͚̮͖̻̘͉͕̜̟̗̫̣̰͎̩͚̼̤͉͇̟̙͍͕̤̩͙̳̥̗͚̼̱͓̝̱̗̬̜̳̳̼̬͎̥̺̞̦͔̘̤̟̼̻̲͕̳̤̯̙̤̗͕̼̰͇̙̟̖̪̱̝͖̭̺̼̫̣̳̮̺̦͇̝̯̠̟̼̫̘̫͔̤̗͕̖̟̲̳͓̼̖̘̦̩̟̹̹̝̻̮̯̗̜͇̳̯͇̥͙͔̝̠̞̱̲̭̲̥̳̻̲͙̙̘͚̳̬̱͔̫̩̠͙͎͇̟͕̠͍̠̠̮̭̱̗͇͓̥̪̥͓͉͚͓͍̱̝̦̯̹̠͙̩̖̜̘̞̻̟͙̗͉̙̮̻̦̱̪͚̠͉̙̱͍̘͉͎͙̺̯͔̖̿͌̋͒̔̄̍̽̀̏͂̀̀̅̊́͂̈̐̓́̀̂̈́̈́̓͑̎̒͆̀͑͒̎̈̂̈̊̈̏̎́́͋͋̀̉̊̈́́̑̓̓̉̂̌̾̓̂̐̾̈́̊́̿̀́̇̂͂̀̐̆̆̽̂̍̎̔͊͗̓̏͂̄̿͑̽͑̃̈́̄̾͂͗̋́͋͘͘̚̕̕͘͜͜͜͜͜͜͝͝͝͠͠͝͝ͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅą̵̢̡̡̨̧̢̧̧̡̨̛̛͎̪̣̜̣̘̻͙͈͈̥̘͚̼̗̩̮̠̜͉͎͍͍̝̭̹̞̜̰̦̣̙̟̟̩̮͙͖̥͓͔̝͙͍̟̠͙̮͎̹̳͖̰̪̼̙̻͓͔͍̭̞̟̯̤̩̲͈͇̳̝͔̩̮̣̠̥̖̺͕̟̩̣͖͍͇̠͖̏̿̊͊̀̄̈́̓́͗̌͋̈́̓̔̃̄͘͜͜͜m̴̛̙͚̭̪̼̯̝͇̞̹̼̫͉̬̖̩̥͓̏̎̅̇̂̄̀̓̌̂͋̓̏̋̊̑̒̊͒̂͛́̒͋̄͋͑̋͛͋͛̒̊͒́̀̄̀̓̊̀̌̉̑̎̽͂͋̍̓̿̊͗̌̋̍̄͌͑̀̿͂̌̾̓̀͋̊̋̃́̊́̃̃͐̄̀̅̌͌́̓̈́̄͋̂͂̆̈͌̀̈́̎̋̐͌͂̈́̑̉̑̎̽̎͛̑̏͛̌̄̈́̄̐̿̇̎̾̇̓̍̄͒̓͛̆̍̔̾͗̾̀̊̐̂͆͂̏̾́̃́͒̒̈́̃̄̏͂̄̊̋͑̀̒̐͗́̾̈́̿̏͆͗̓̏́̏͂͒̿͊̚̕̕͘̕̚̚̕̚̚͘͘̚͘̚̕͠͠͝͠͝͠͝͝e̵̡̡̢̨̨̡̢̨̢̨̧̡̢̡̢̢̨̢̢̧̨̨̯͔̻͚͚̥̠̗͍̫̩̞̮̣̫̹̙̰͔̙̭̲̻̭̦̫̹͖̥͎͖̳͎̠̥̙̗̖̖̳̫̖͇̲̗̥͖̙̜͓̺͖̥͎̗̟̹͖͖̖͙̞̥͓̦̙͍̬̣̫̹͔̣̻̭̘͈͍͚̲̝̹̠͕̣̪̜̘̝̞͔͙̺̯̘̹̩̳̳̮͖̣͕͔̟̬͈̻̥͚̟̰͍͈̻͙̦͙͉͔͔̣̟̬̤̞̭͖̰̣̦͔̫̥̣̪͎̺͓̲̠̬̣̘̗̠͎̩͎͇̥͔̫̖̦̭͓̙̦̪̫̼̲̲̩̫̪̟͈̥̙̞͎͕̮̗̻̙̱̲͓̜̪̺̰͓̲͉̘͔̝͇͈̰̹̤̤͓̪̰̺̝͉̺̠̠̹͈͉̠͙͌͊̈́̓͋̔̓͗̔̀͊͗̈́̅̒̌̎̔̓̅̇̈͋͐̒̈́̃̓̀̄̂̈́̾̃͘͘̚̕͜͜͜͜͜͜͝͠͠͝ͅͅ

          Also

          Recommend text replacement software if ever a name/word comes up frequently :)

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      Most modern OSs have special bindings for special characters. On a Mac it’s like alt+ e e for é. I think it’s just alt + e on Linux.

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        Don’t you guys have dead keys? On German keyboards there’s a key that does nothing on its own. When you press it twice, you get ‘`’, and when you press that button and ‘e’ you get è.

        Many people confuse this for the apostrophe which brings me into a murderous rage every time I see it.

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      Try this instead if you have a number pad on your keyboard:

      Hold alt and type 0233 and then release the alt key.

      For my favourite, type : then hold alt and type 0254. 😛

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        Or better yet, start using the US-international keyboard layout. You press the accent you want (', `, ", ~, …) and the letter you want it on, and boom. Writing normal versions of those symbols requires a space after writing them, but that’s easy to get used to.

        It’s pretty much the default setting in the Netherlands.

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          I use US International with no dead keys, so ` ’ and ~ all work normally, but you can do right-alt (alt gr) + a to make à and so on.

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          I tried this for a bit, until I came into work hungover one Monday and for the life of me couldn’t figure out why my password wasn’t working.

          (May have been the Canadian multilingual layout, I don’t remember)

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            That sounds easier than remembering the arcane number associated with an accent.

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        I remember this from working on a DOS PC with a German keyboard. Which has no backslash character, among other characters one need for programming. Having äöü at your fingertips is no help if you need [].

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          I believe you can do this with the on-screen keyboard! If you’re using Windows, I think that can be accessed with super+u (but I haven’t used Windows in a long time so I apologize if I misremembered or if this is no longer accurate).

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    Used to work with someone who would recycle characters. Like, instead of typing a letter on the keyboard (which had many keys specifically for this purpose), they would go looking for that letter in some text they were going to discard and Ctrl-X Ctrl-V it.

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    This is what I used once when my keyboard broke and some keys stopped working. Even ordering the new keyboard was difficult when I couldn’t type my delivery address properly.

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        Back in my day we didn’t have no fancy on screen keyboard built into windows! We copy and pasted from a random readme.txt file when our keyboards broke! (Or were taken away by our parents thinking it would make the computer inoperable, haha)

        It is a really nice feature now though.

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    Honestly shit like that works really well when half of your notebook’s keyboard doesn’t work anymore. The on screen keyboard is limited and copy pasting letters from texts can be faster. Especially with special characters. Or when you just need an a or s, opening the on screen keyboard again and again vs copy pasting it once and using it as a source - the second one is faster.

    I am very sad and desperate I can’t afford a new laptop

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      What’s the model? I know a decent bit about laptop repair and I can do some research for you to see whether it would be a massive pain to replace the keyboard.

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        That’s super nice of you. I think it is an HP 250 G7 (that’s on the back), I bought it back in like 2017. I’m not very tech savvy and just bought the one a fellow student had and said she liked. It drives me nuts because I don’t get how to turn it on or off (I mean I do, but it changes what it wants all the time, you gotta rub it the right way).

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          Just looked into it a bit and although the part is pretty cheap it’s a bit of a tricky repair. If you had 50 dollars lying around and wanted something better than an external keyboard you could just do the whole top case (part that all the internals go into which contains the keyboard and trackpad). Still requires taking apart the computer completely, but if you (or a friend) are feeling adventurous it’s not a bad route.

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            Can you send me a link to what I would need to buy? Maybe I’ll find someone in a repair cafe who is willing to do that. Thanks!

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                Quick question: how do I figure out if the malfunction is really caused by the physical keyboard and not some soft/hardware issue that has nothing to do with the keys themselves?

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                  Unless there’s liquid damage and it’s certain rows of keys not working at all it’s unlikely that you’d have that sort of partial failure of your keyboard. Even in that case it’s still usually the keyboard. If certain keys only work with excess pressure that’s pretty much 100% a hardware failure of the keyboard itself.

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    Yes, but you need to be wary of pasting the formatting.

    So when you do this, instead of pasting with Control+V you will want to paste without formatting using the Control+Shift+V command.

    So remember - if you want that capital ‘H’ without issues, use your Shift key when pasting what you copy from Wikipedia.

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      You can copy the H and paste it into the address bar and copy again to clear the formatting.

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        First you copy, then open word pad and paste it there. Then remember that word pad has text formatting and open excel and paste it there. Then remember excel also has text formatting and open calculator and paste it there. Then remember that calculator can only handle numbers (or a few letters if you are a hacker and put it in hex mode) and open Minesweeper and try to set a new personal best time. Don’t you just hate it when you have one mine left and two squares with equal chance of being the mine?

        Eventually remember the pasting thing, act impressed the computer still remembers what you were trying to paste and just paste it into your notepad document and hope no one notices it’s different.

        MS getting rid of word pad really messes up my usual work flow. Or would if I wasn’t switching to Linux instead of W11. I hear the word pads grow on trees there and that it comes with sudoku built right in, but they are fancy and drop the “ku” to save typing time.

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      sounds a bit complex.

      i prefer to paste into notepad, and then copy it from there

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        Missing some vital first steps :

        Screenshot the webpage. Print it out. Scan the text using OCR. Cut single character.

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      Dammnnn I use right click page without formatting so much, I hate it when software removes the option from the right click menu… looking at you Teams. This will change my life!

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      I just paste it in notepad to remove formatting.

      And I’m not even joking, sometimes the special ALT 0227 doesnt work and my å is only on Wikipedia…

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    Presumably the original post was made facetiously, but since a lot of people are talking about special characters in the comments:

    I can’t confirm anymore, but besides all the alt shortcuts in the comments, in Windows it used to be that you could open the Character Map from the Start menu, then either copy any character from a chart or select the character to see its alt code.

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      There’s something a bit upsetting about how finding it online is faster and easier than using an application purpose-built for this purpose (Character Map)

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        I used to google for it, but now I ask chatgpt. Thats probably way worse resource-wise, right?

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          I actually find it a lot easier on mobile, because you can see all the symbols available to type without having to memorise them or have 2-4 different characters printed on each key. Gboard has almost every special character I ever need to use accessible in its two extra screens, and accented letters like êëéèē accessible by long-pressing the base letter.

          Unexpected Keyboard (on F-Droid) is also fantastic for extra characters, give it a try, but I don’t use it as a daily driver because of lack of spellcheck and glide typing.

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          I’m not sure about your specific setup, but usually on mobiles you can hold your finger on a letter to see variants/accent marks.

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        That application was made before the turn of the fucking millennium and it has a bad UI design?

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          I know, right?

          For real though, Linux Mint comes with what seems to be a clone of it, name included, and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen other clones of it integrated into writing software. There have been plenty of opportunities to improve on the formula, and the experience is improved slightly, it’s just not enough.

          Edit: turns out the one in Mint is GNOME Character Map.

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      If you got compose key (linux, mac, windows with third party software), then those are trivial:

      ë ñ ũ ü, and even åâăāãȧaąàáæª₂2²

      Goes like Compose e ", Compose n ~, etc

      But a thing to note that resulting letters are generic and not region-specific,

      like that ë (U+00EB LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS)

      is not the same as ё (U+0451 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER IO)

      Which might trigger spellcheckers or not even be displayed in certain fonts

      There’s also apparently some weird combos like Compose+:) for and Compose+CCCP for , but no easily available keys for greek letters unless you tweak configs…