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Probably controversial opinion for some people: I’ve only ever seen one Star Wars movie (one of the original ones) and some of parts of other movies and I think the franchise is totally overrated.
The movies really aren’t anything incredible. Luke loses practically every fight he has, the dialog and CGI in the prequels were horrendous, and the sequels… yeah. I don’t think most of them are bad movies, but for how popular it is? I believe Star Wars is held up quite a bit by how cool a large chunk of it is. Vader looks sick af, and laser swords are badass.
But there are some really good TV shows, games, and, from what I hear, comics as well. I think the movies are probably the weakest part of the Star Wars universe.
Can’t really judge without watching them though
Yes… I know… but if one is this lame why would I want to watch at least 5 more?
Not all of them are the same, some are better, some are worse. Some people like because of the nostalgia. It depends why you deem them “lame”
If you didn’t see them as a kid, then you definitely won’t understand why they’re so popular. When you see them as a child, then they’re the coolest thing in the world, especially if you saw them back in the 70’s or 80’s when they were groundbreaking movie making. What I don’t understand is how people continue loving them, like being completely obsessed with them, into adulthood. I wish I could be that excited about them as an adult, but they’re pretty juvenile movies for a lot of different reasons.
As I’m born in the late 80’s (god, saying that makes me feel so old), it sadly wasn’t possible to see them at a time were they actually were considered groundbreaking. The special effects aged very badly, imho. I think it’s a lot of nostalgia, especially for people who watched them as kids.
I saw Return of the Jedi in the theater with my elementary school class. It was so badass! There were 20 kids outside the theater after the movie pretending they were swordfighting with the rolled up movie posters that they gave us. I loved the movies for a long time. I even enjoyed the prequels, just to see the storyline, but the new movies don’t do it for me at all. The dialogue and writing just seems so lazy. It’s a shame too, because they look really cool and have great sound production.
I saw them as a child and found them totally stupid. Wild west pew pew but in space. Not everone who grew up with them loves them. If they were made today, noone would bat an eye over the mediocre story 😁
Only Empire Strikes Back is actually good imo.
It ends on a down note.
Which is good.
There are two types of people in the world, those who will belittle you for not knowing what they know, and those who will be excited that they get to expose you to new knowledge. Date the second type.
Sometimes you can catch the first type out and flip them to the second, by being interested in what they know.
True, but i HAVE watched the shows i like at least 5 times each
My wife will watch the same 5 or so murder mystery shows over and over and rarely anything else.
Hit her, hire gym, dump lawyer
murder clarity shows
I love dating girls that haven’t seen anything. Movie nights at home are a great way to chill.
Gf is nerdy and loves ttrpgs.
Hasn’t seen star wars or lotr.
I know someone who takes a weird amount of pride in having never seen star wars.
Like, mocks people for liking “such a childish piece of garbage”, has to butt in every time he overhears someone talking about it to let everyone know “I’ve never seen it and no I won’t watch it with you”
So far not a single person I’ve spoken to has wanted to watch it with him anyway.
Like it’s cool if you don’t like it, it’s cool if you’ve never seen it, but like… Come on Bro.
I mean, I agree with them. Star Wars is pretty derivative, but it helped mainstream nerd culture in a way so I can’t complain
It was derivative of space opera in general, but other than Star Wars that genre’s pretty much gone now.
Imagine shitting on something you’ve never even watched. What a clown of a person.
That’s why I have no opinion when people around me complain about Rings of Power. I haven’t seen it. I don’t plan on watching it any time soon, but also partly because I’m afraid I won’t like it.
And I don’t want to dislike something that’s lord of the rings, even if it’s just a poor adaptation.
Yea I don’t shit on Love and Thunder. I doubt I would enjoy it because I hated Ragnarok and people told me LaT was worse but I haven’t seen it so I don’t have anything to say about it.
That’s a popular thing to do for people who think they’re terminally cool. I was like that in my teens and still cringe about how insufferable I was. I know people in their 30s and 40s who went around telling everyone how proud they were that they weren’t watching GoT like it was some kind of CrossFit activity.
My goodness, that GoT hype nearly burned some synapses in me, too, though. I’m glad that I’m as far as possible from any TV show watching bubbles, but constantly, involuntarily hearing about it on the internet was still just annoying.
Wow, LOTR is great and there’s at leat two great star Wars movies.
Yeah imo the only good Star Wars are the first one, The Phantom Menace and then skip all the rest to do Rise of Skywalker
Yo, we need to know which two so we can judge you.
Hint: I’m over thirty
I’m still very interested in where Empire Strikes Back stands.
It’s #1
Search your feelings
So Empire and Battle For Endor
Yup. Its more that she just doesn’t like movies in general, and our leisure time is not spent in front of the TV.
Although we(our dnd groups) are working on her since roughly 50% of ttrpgs is references to those two or trek.
The thing is, the reason I haven’t seen anything is because I’m not interested and don’t have enough of an attention span to sit through stuff I’m not super into, so any time someone I’ve dated has been like, “we can watch so many things together!” my response is no thank you.
You’re missing out on the hanging out part of it. Cook food together, put the movie on, Talk about anything you two want, pay attention to whatever scenes they really think is cool. It doesn’t matter if you pay that much attention to it. You’re being together.
Yeah but we can do that without the distraction of a movie or show on in the background. Plus, a lot of people really, really want you to love the thing as much as they do, so if you’re not into it, they take it kind of personally, and I’m rarely into it. I don’t show people movies I really love anymore (unsolicited) after realizing that I’d spend the whole time worrying about what they think of it instead of just enjoying it.
The movie part seems unnecessary in that situation.
People who are “into movies” don’t tend to like it when you talk through movies…
I like to have a discussion about the movies I watch during the movie. Sometimes the acting is terrible, or the writing is too unbelievable I just have to say something.
I will stay still and quiet if I must, but that just makes it boring.
How I treat a movie is dependent on the type of movie it is.
For comedies, action movies or cheesy B-movies, I love to have a laugh and trash talk. That’s almost the whole point.
For “serious” movies, I want to watch it, then do the talking afterwards.
That’s a caveat I inform people of beforehand. I am really into movies, but I have very discriminate taste, so I don’t watch very often because movies are generally dogshit. All my friends know, I will watch anything with them, but I’m going to talk mad shit the entire time. This is a really fun group activity in most cases, and often helps less informed people see through the bullshit that is modern media, but sometimes there’s someone who doesn’t get it, or needs to hyperfocus on the screen.
That signifies to me:
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This person doesn’t understand the point of hanging out in a group
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This person falls for blatant marketing
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We will probably not be good friends
I was with you until you started trash-talking people who enjoy media that is specifically designed to be enjoyed.
Can you believe this guy over here is enjoying something that was engineered for the enjoyment of the greatest number of people?!? What a maroon!
We called people like SadSadSatellite “Hipsters” back in my day 👵
It’s also just generally not a good train of thought regardless of the quality of the media or the individual person’s enjoyment.
For instance - my wife struggles to maintain an understanding of the story of whatever she’s watching unless she focuses completely on it, meaning if we want to discuss what we’re watching we pause the TV to discuss and then press play again. If we talk throughout something or she’s on her phone, she misses out entire pieces of critical dialogue or visuals that carry the story and so she ends up not being able to follow it and then therefore doesn’t enjoy it at all, or alternatively she has to ask what’s going on which kinds ruins it for both of us.
It makes no sense to make some weird inference that because of that, she’s somehow more susceptible to marketing or doesn’t know how to spend time with groups of people. Both are definitely untrue. I think it is fair, however, to assume that she probably wouldn’t be good friends with someone who is as judgmental as the previous poster, so at least they got that one right.
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I always find it interesting when someone states they don’t enjoy an activity and one of the first responses are to subtly guilt the commenter for not enjoying an activity.
I’ve been losing interest in movies for the past 15-20 years and being guilted into enjoy something I no longer enjoy for someone else’s expense does not sound like fun.
Fortunately there are plenty of activities to do together. As you mentioned, cooking together sounds great to me. So does walking in nature. I especially love playing music for each other because I love hearing what other people listen to.
Humans are wonderfully complex and there’s plenty in the world to for us to enjoy.
It’s like when you tell somebody you’re an introvert and they start giving you tips on how to talk to others and “open up” like you’re broken.
I’ve lost interest in movies over time but maybe for a different reason. I far prefer TV shows these days, especially sci-fi and fantasy, because for me the point is the escapism. With movies there’s just not enough time for the level of immersion I’m after, with rare exception (Lord of the Rings being the main one, but that was more of a miniseries in movie trilogy form). I want to escape into the world and get to know it, what the rules are there, what it’s like to be there.
This is basically my experience too. I don’t really like movies. They feel rushed and empty, and I want to exist within a story for a long time, like video games. And like video games, and books, I strongly prefer sci-fi/fantasy… tho the type of sci-fi does matter… the really dystopian stuff is not my jam at the moment, because of the actual world.
Animated movies are sort of an exception for me, but they tend to tell much more simplified stories, in a visually more approachable way. You can’t immerse for long periods, but it’s a quick fall into it, and generally quite fantastical in nature.
What about long-running animated movie series, like the DCAMU? Well, it might not be your jam because it gets dystopian at some parts.
Haven’t really managed to get into DC stuff, tbh. I’m sure I have several of the DCAMU but haven’t watched any of them. Their universe is too… all over the place to have ever caught me in the following (lots of reboots/retellings with new cast, which I strongly dislike for immersion reasons)
But often when I find a movie series like that I’ll watch them like a mini-series. I throw them into a collection and watch back to back. Sometimes I’ll do that with live action movie series too, but they are harder to get into. Animated movies can be visually consistent years apart in a way that live action usually just can’t.
Long running shit with deep character development are the best.
This is my experience being gen z dating any millennial. I’m honestly jealous that they got to experience films in a more communicative and iconic way.
I think growing up with live TV made a big difference too. All the big movies/shows that were cultural touchstones for generations would be playing on repeat on one channel or another, so millennials would be randomly exposed to them without extra money/effort put in.
Nowadays, I don’t know how people who have grown up in the streaming era are supposed to find these movies, short of following a watch list, seeking out the right streaming service, and probably dropping some cash.
This is a really good point. There are a lot of iconic movies I haven’t seen in one go but I’ve probably caught every scene from family flicking through channels all the time.
I just watched Rio Bravo and realized this was one of those for me. I’ve seen it tons of times on TV but never all in one sitting. I always thought there was more to the beginning of it.
I can quote stuff from TV that aired in the late 90s, but I can’t quote shit I watched last night. For me the distinguishing difference is smartphones. I don’t have the attention span to give a TV show my undivided attention anymore, and I’m browsing on my phone while TV plays in the background.
even without a phone, you pick up a lot between 10-20, and then it sticks around forever and you will always feel good about it (or bad or at least some sort of nostalgic), what you watch when you get older must be VERY good to make it onto the accumulated pile. Most just isn’t. While when you were young, that mattered less to get onto the forever in your brain pile. Same with video games. No new games will ever get to the same level in your experience as the ones you played when you were young. Even if they’re better and the old ones graphics sucked.
I agree! I like how we’re continuing the thread in a different comment chain. I’m this guy: https://lemmy.world/comment/10422461
It’s nice to talk to someone who seeds content. It’s been a while.
Oh hey! Lol
Sometimes I forget to read usernames…
I’ve seen a bit of most popular shows, if only to form an informed opinion about them.
Most from my early adult years (mid-1990s) are so terrible that I stopped watching TV entirely.
WHAT?? You haven’t seen that movie?
I legit had a girl i dated in high school and it was basically. "Have you seen (“random show or movie”)
And the response if didnt know what it was just.
"WHAT HOW?!?! " The answer is i didnt and still dont own cable and she did. I feel you mate SMH.
I see Lemmy’s source code instead of movies
That goes down well on dates.
“I did not care for The Godfather.”
“It insists upon itself”
…this is one of the big ones that I haven’t even seen.
Same
For some reason I won’t watch dramas, but if you dress one of the characters up in a rubber alien suit and then slap a sci fi tag on that bad boy I’ll eat it up
Same
I was in the same boat. Then I watched “The Offer” last year. It’s a really good tv show. It’s a drama about the making of The Godfather and you wouldn’t believe what it took to get the movie made!
After that I wanted to watch the movie and did. And got so much more out of it.
Sure the show has some movie spoilers but those spoilers are so part of pop culture and you probably know them already.
“Oh, yeah? Well, I didn’t care for Citizen Kane!”
I’m worse, I never finish. I stopped watching game of thrones with 3 episodes to go.
Don’t bother.
Good place to stop, from what I hear.
Too many people make watching shows and movies their whole personality.
There is more to life than just consuming content from Hollywood.
No. Shared media is an excellent way to expedite and condense communication.
Movies are pretty fun! If you stick to indie films or what’s shown at film festivals, you really get to experience great art. I can’t speak to Hollywood movies though, but I watch some popular action flicks now and again like John Wick or Planet Terror (2007).
Also try non-American movies, it’s refreshing to see different povs to similar themes circumstance. I find that niche old movies are pretty awesome too, but you have to dig for gold unless you go with a trusted review source.
Lastly if you’re having a bad time with movies avoid most things made by Amazon, Netflix etc. I find their most of their writers or directors seldom have any artistic vision beyond just copying what’s been done before.
Anime and Arch linux btw are the alternative personalities and I’m here for it.
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Exactly! There’s Bollywood, Tollywood, K-Dramas, J-Dramas, C-Dramas…
Or don’t watch stuff made by massive companies. It’s all just made to sell. It’s a product not art.
Find small independent artists and studios and follow and support them.
You are really cool.
Tap for spoiler
That was the joke
I like to see stuff on big scale and indie stuff isn’t that.
For me, Pacific Rim, Interstellar, or Nope are preferable over A24 movies.
Exactly, that’s why I am watching modded Minecraft playthrpughs instead.
So what you’re saying is we should start a reaction channel on YouTube?
/j
“This week I go on a date with Gestrid and mock them for not knowing the endings to classic movies! Like and subscribe for more hilarious dating hijinks!”
So date them, show them a movie every night, and see how many it takes for them to say, “Seen it.” Then repeat. EZPZ
My gf used to be in that boat. I’m a big film guy. The first few years of our relationship I spent catching her up on the more important things in life.
Star Wars Holiday Special
After 20 years with my wife, I still have weekly “you haven’t seen X?!?!?!” moments with her. The amount of films she hasn’t seen is staggering.
(conversely, the amount of time I’ve wasted watching films is kinda scary)
My GF thought Trek was something her mom watched. Now she’s debating the finer points of canon with me because I caught her up.