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On call rules AND on call pay, or STFU. Your staffing problem isn’t my problem and I can contact legal authorities if you do write me up for having my phone off or just not coming in.
Go Team! (to hell)
Required to be by the phone = on the clock. This will be a lot of overtime for everyone.
This is incorrect in most states.
Employers can require an employee to be “on-call” and available to work on an emergency or as-needed basis. Employers are generally not required to pay employees who are “on-call,” unless the employee is actually called to duty. However, if an employer places significant restrictions on how an employee spends their time while on-call, this time may need to be compensated as hours worked.
The tenth circuit of appeals came up with this test to determine if the employers restriction constitutes on call hours as hours worked.
Where the employee is not required to remain on the employer’s premises, the critical inquiry is whether the employee is able to use the time effectively for his or her own purposes. Here, the report requirement necessarily entailed that the employee could not drink alcohol, must be able to dress in uniform, and must be able to travel to the airport, park, and pass through security within one hour of a call. She was not able to make or attend doctors’ appointments for herself or her children, do her weekly shopping, nor go on field trips with her children. The court compared these circumstances with many FLSA cases presenting similar, or even more restrictive, circumstances involving availability by pager, inability to drink alcohol, and ability to report within 30 minutes or one hour. In the FLSA cases, it was determined that the employees’ activities were not so curtailed as to require the on-call time to be considered compensable working time. The court followed this precedent.
Come on guys, you’re all falling for obvious bait.
It’s basically all of the content on r/antiwork after that community decided to throw itself off the golden gate bridge over an awkward interview that didn’t even fucking matter, on Fox “news” of all places
People are still bleating about that interview like it was death of all. Talk about writing the enemy’s propaganda for them…
Yeah, I still can’t believe after all this time that people haven’t gained some perspective on that. Like, Fox News viewers were never going to respect an antiwork community regardless.
I can’t help but think that part of it is based on subconscious transphobia about the mod who gave the interview, especially considering all the blatant misgendering and disproportionate rage directed at them by the community.
It was a really disturbing outcome, and the interview itself was insignificant compared to the behavior of the users. I’ve never seen such a large community implode over something so small. That was one moment I realized that … maybe I shouldn’t really be on reddit.
I mean the fact that people seem to think that a growing global movement on workers rights was derailed by one debacle of a fox news interview of a reddit mod is…not a good look overall. I legit got attacked on lemmy a couple of days ago for pointing out hey notice how a right wing fuckhead getting pwned doesn’t destroy their reputation? Ya wanna think about that and why you’re doing their propaganda for them?
it really felt like a purity politics moment. Bug fuck insane when you’re talking about change.
Yeah, I’ve heard of making a mountain out of a molehill, but this was more like making an anthill into Mt. Everest. And anyone who tried to approach the situation rationally was immediately shouted down by angry mobs. It was hugely disappointing to see.
‘filled with people who believe it is more important to do nothing wrong than it is to do something right’
The equivalent of burning down your house because a window got dirty
I was already gone by that time, disappointing to see, but also what I’ve come to expect from Reddit at this point
Some people see a fishing line in the water and shout “this is bait!”
But I only see a pretty little neon snack.
Totally. Pretty sure it would be illegal of an employer to ask this here in the UK, probably the US too.
Illegal? Yes.
Stops businesses from doing this kind of BS? No.
Also, is this a legit thing posted at a legit workplace? Probably not.
Just cause it’s illegal hasn’t stopped plenty of shitty bosses
Yeah, this is a pretty sad bait for Internet points. The AI BOTs are getting lazy.
Official company policy being printed and posted on the refrigerator… totally legit. SMH
My hobby is wilderness camping. No signal. Guess I should just die.
Pour one out this Memorial day for anyone stuck working for such a massive powertripping cunt as the one that wrote this.
I bet they’re also the type to loudly exclaim “no one wants to work anymore” when no one answers their calls at 4 in the morning.
The appropriate answer to that is the full staff making a chorus and singing to the bosses “FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUU! WE’RE LEEEEAVING!”
‘…voluntary mandatory shift coverage.’
Someone should be gifted a dictionary for Supervisor Appreciation Day.
I totally understand the overall ridiculousness of this, but I suspect that “mandatory” and “voluntary” apply to 2 different people in this case. Person 1 has a “mandatory shift” and person 2 is supposed to voluntarily cover that person’s mandatory shift.
But it is mandatory because they get fired for not doing it.
this has to be satire
One would hope that a message THAT tone deaf wouldn’t have even made it to the keyboard before realizing what a catastrophically bad idea it was.
Yes, of course there are plenty of workplaces this bad, but they still wouldn’t write “voluntary mandatory”
After meeting many a middle manager, I can say with absolute certainty that they would write something like this.
Unironically.
there’s a lot of stupid, ignorant assholes running small businesses all over the place that think they own their employees and can boss them 24/7. this could totally be a legit posting somewhere.
if you want me answering my phone 24/7, you’re paying me 24/7–and providing the phone you want me to answer.
I’ve seen shit like this working in an understaffed restaurant. It was understaffed because the management decided to drug test and most of the staff was let go. Then whined the entire time about people unable to cover shifts and pulled shit like this. I promptly left after coming back from being sick.
Drug testing at a restaurant?! lmaooooo
This is basically how Golden Corral works their staff
Depending on the country/state that could obligate the company to pay for devices if they’re going to require they have them.
Not to mention possible “on call” pay could apply as well.
I wonder if people who make these things (if real) even think of throwing them by HR or some professional who could help them avoid the legal implications of these kinds of things.
This is probably by some small time business owner who never heard of HR, since preventing this liable shit is exactly HR’s job.
Go team!
every time someone tried to call me in i would say i’ve had alcoholic drinks; they shut up pretty quick after that.
Whoever wrote that can go fuck themselves with a 40-grit sandpaper dildo made from a red hot curling iron.
This is the kinda job I like to get just to fuck with management.
I need your drive, man. I work at an university. People are mostly nice, but I still get annoyed with it.
Nah, you gotta pull this shit as a part timer unless you’re already retired/independently wealthy. Don’t fuck with your actual career or income.
I didn’t mean that I’d do it. Just that it takes energy to be able to deal with annoying people, even if you’re fucking with them.
I find that there’s a certain glee in getting paid to troll awful people.
Good luck with keeping people hired 🙂
