• bobburger@fedia.io
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    4 months ago

    They are two different kinds of single issue voters.

    Republican single issue voters get their get their candidate elected by strongly supporting them because of a single issue.

    Progressives also help get the Republican candidate elected by refusing to vote for Biden because they strongly oppose one issue.

    The neat part is the progressive is helping the Republican get elected who is usually even farther off the issue than the Democratic candidate.

    But hey, the ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS THE GENOCIDE™. If you don’t vote for Biden The Genocide™ will stop instantly and you’ll be guilt free because you didn’t vote for it. But at the same time you won’t have to feel guilt for any of the bad shit that comes with a Trump presidency for reasons.

    If somebody hates racism, but gets tricked into voting for Trump by Black Voices for Trump, would you say they’re voting in support of racism or not?

    I can’t say what they are voting in support of regardless of how they vote. That was painfully clear. I’ll say it explicitly: voting for a candidate doesn’t mean you support any of the candidates positions. It just means more of their positions align with yours than the other candidate.

    Do you think neo-nazis that want the death penalty for race mixing support Trump’s brand of racism? Or do you think they’re voting for Trump because they know he’s closer to what they want than Biden and they know their 3rd party candidate has no shot of ever getting elected?

    The UN will save them!

    Tell that to the Rohingya.

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      They are two different kinds of single issue voters.

      this all started from mental gymnastics, and you’re currently trying to straight up claim that single issue voters are in general effective for the republicans but ineffective for the democrats because…reasons…?

      I’ll say it explicitly: voting for a candidate doesn’t mean you support any of the candidates positions

      For the record, you’re still strawmanning my position, as you have been the entire time. I don’t know whether this is out of malice or a plain failure of comprehension, but—again—voting in support of something is not the same as supporting it. Your neo-nazis are voting in support of Trump’s specific brand of racism.

      That said, your response to the hypothetical means you believe your intention is the only important thing in how you exercise your voting right. In which case, what are we doing here? People who aren’t voting for Biden because of his stance on Palestine aren’t intending to get Trump elected, so they’re blameless, right?

      Tell that to the Rohingya.

      The US also didn’t save them, so I don’t know what point you’re trying to make here.

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        The mental gymnastics you’re doing to dodge these very simple and straightforward points would make Neo in the matrix proud.

        this all started from mental gymnastics, and you’re currently trying to straight up claim that single issue voters are in general effective for the republicans but ineffective for the democrats because…reasons…?

        It’s a pretty simple concept. I’ll use a pizza analogy since kids love pizza.

        Republican voters love pineapple on pizza, but we don’t have any pineapple pizza. The Republican voter says “that’s okay, I’ll have the supreme pizza because it’s pretty close”. So the single issue Republican voter gets pizza and the Republican candidate gets elected.

        Progressives voters love anchovies on pizza, but we don’t have anchovy pizza, we only have pepperoni pizza. The progressive voter says “fuck off, I don’t want your shitty pizza without anchovies” and then shits all over the pizza. So the progressive single issue voter gets no pizza, no one else gets pizza, and the Democratic candidate doesn’t get elected.

        In this case eating pizza is voting for the candidate, not eating the pizza is not voting for the candidate. The Republican single issue voter votes and helps the Republican get elected. The progressive single issue voter doesn’t vote, doesn’t help the Democratic candidate get elected, and since we have first past the post elections in America he helps the Republican get elected.

        If you want to pretend like you still don’t get I understand. You’ve intentionally missed the basic concept so many times that you it would be pretty silly to admit you understand now.