The PS5 is four years into its life cycle, but only accounts for half of PlayStation Network users
  • Sludgehammer@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 months ago

    IMO improving graphics technology is a case of diminishing returns. Sure you can always make a better looking game by throwing more processing power at it, but that has (at best) a minor effect on things like gameplay and story. Like seriously, if Squenix had decided to make FF7: Rebirth in the PS3 era, other then some uglier graphics how much would the game have have been different?

    And (to actually tie this in to the thread) that’s the reason PS5 sales have been so sluggish. What do you really need those PS5 graphics for? I mean my PC is still running hardware from 5-10 years ago, because there isn’t anything I really need to upgrade for. Most of what I’ve been playing is indy titles and for the few graphic intensive games I want to play they’ll usually run if I lower some graphics settings.

    • Moonrise2473@lemmy.ml
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      6 months ago

      And Nintendo proved this right by making successful games on underpowered systems. The switch it’s basically an Android tablet from last decade sold with crazy markup but talented game designers make compelling games

      Sure, in the store they have 3rd party do lazy shitty ports like this https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/jello-run-switch/ but I feel it has more interesting games than the photorealistic ones on PS5, except the masterpieces by insomniac studio, but those can also be played on PS4 or PC

    • DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca
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      6 months ago

      Exactly this. I’ll always maintain a game will be and will remain prettier is an artistic style than an ultra realistic style. It just takes up resources that could be used elsewhere for the sake of looking pretty for the next 3-5 years before the “Uhh muh Guuhhhhd, it looks so realistic” ages like milk. Games like Wind Waker and Okami still look gorgeous today.

  • Rageagainstbelief@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    If they would make them backwards compatible I would be more likely to upgrade it still bugs me that they stopped doing that. I miss my old PS3. That thing was awesome I even installed Linux on it and had emulators working… the good old days.

  • Stefen Auris@pawb.socialEnglish
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    6 months ago

    It’s like all we heard about the PS5 was that it was super hard to get when it came out and then it kind of disappeared from our collective consciousness

    • J4g2F@lemmy.ml
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      6 months ago

      I still use my PS3, enough great and cheap games and can play my PS1 and 2 games on the big screen with wireless controllers.

      Newer games I play on PC anyways.

    • Joe@discuss.tchncs.de
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      6 months ago

      One of these years my children will discover the PS3 hidden unused in the entertainment center since they were born, and there’ll be 2mil+1. Muhaha.

      • jordanlund@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        When a new generation starts, I hook it up in the living room, move the previous gen to the bedroom, and mothball the oldest gen.

        So when I kick off, my kid, or grand kids, are going to discover organized boxes of gaming gear. I’m sure it will be all over whatever passes for social media then. :)

        Currently:

        Living Room - PS5, Xbox Series X, Steam Deck Dock.

        Bedroom - PS4, Xbox One X, Switch.

      • XTL@sopuli.xyz
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        6 months ago

        I just got a second one because it was peanuts and came with two good controllers while mine are all kind of subtly broken.

        I do actually have a PS4 with 5 controllers because once bit. I don’t know if I’ll find the time, but if I feel like playing something stuck on the three like infamous or demons souls, I can.

        Maybe I’ll get the 5 one day. And maybe I’ll find that emulation can solve the old title problem.

    • SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml
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      6 months ago

      I have a ps1, 2, 3 and 4, a psp, a vita, I also have a NA snes, OG xbox, xbox360 and xbox one. I pretty much don’t play with any of them, I work too much…

  • Muffi@programming.dev
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    6 months ago

    All the greatest recent games run super well on the Steam Deck, so there’s no need for a giant console cosplaying as a router.

    • Che Banana@beehaw.org
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      6 months ago

      Right? I’ve had the Xbox since the beginning, didn’t get the last upgrade and finally sold the One to get a steam deck.

    • thingsiplay@beehaw.org
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      6 months ago

      All the greatest recent games run super well on the Steam Deck

      I get what you are telling here, but it’s not 100% accurate, generally speaking. It might be true for you personally. I own a first gen Steam Deck myself and its just a complementary hardware to my PC (and wonderful at that). It does not run all greatest games at all or in some cases limited and problematic. So “super well” is a little bit exaggerated, but that does not take away how fantastic the device is.

  • Fribbtastic@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Well, I can only speak from my own experience.

    When the PS5 launched I wanted to upgrade but you literally couldn’t get it because it wasn’t in stock anywhere. You could only find it on eBay of some private seller that started at almost double the price, no, thank you. Then Sony introduced this “Register and on the next event you get a slot to buy one from the official Website” which was great. I got invited the first time and literally couldn’t buy it because the website was broken. Whenever I wanted to select my payment method the checkout got blank and there was nothing you could do. Even worse was that you couldn’t hard refresh the shop because this would have killed the session that the website needed to allow you to buy it. So, even switching browsers with the same “invitation link” didn’t work. I reported this to the support, but they didn’t really care. half a year later, I got my second invitation link and the same happened then as well. I reported it again to the support, but they still didn’t know what to do with that information or wanted to troubleshoot this.

    And now, there isn’t really a need for it anyway. The Games that I would have wanted to buy on the PS5 released on the PC.

    • aStonedSanta@lemm.ee
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      6 months ago

      Rise of the Ronin and demon souls are the only things I’m missing. I tried to find one without botting for awhile before I gave up. Rather thankful I did lol.

  • SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    I only bought a ps4 well after the 5 dropped, and only because my pal had got a new xbox and wasn’t playing with his ps4 anymore. Long story short I got the ps4, 3 controllers, and 5 hardcopy games for £50 and a joint. Until I can get a ps5 for that…I ain’t upgrading

  • thingsiplay@beehaw.org
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    6 months ago

    Most people don’t need the newest and expensive tech. From the last 30 days of active games on Playstation brand, here a split PS3/PS4/PS5 (I just show a ratio that is set in relation to the numbers of players for the game), meaning left side is older console:

    https://ps-timetracker.com/statistic/last-30-days

    • - / 42 / 14 Fortnite (3 times)
    • - / 3 / 2 Roblox (1.5 times)
    • 0 / 33 / 9 Minecraft** (3.7 times)
    • - / 14 / 9 Cod:MW2 (1.6 times)
    • - / 38 / 12 GTA V (3.2 times)
    • - / 23 / 8 Rainbow Siege (2.9 times)
    • - / 26 / 8 Apex Legends (3.3 times)
    • - / 17 / 7 Overwatch 2 (2.4 times)
    • - / 1 / 1 EA Sports FC 24 (1 time)

    Edit: I have added simple math result in how many times the PS4 player base is big as the PS5 player base. Just out of curiosity and to provide a quicker way of scanning through the list.

    (**ps3 players almost at 0 level for this game)

    As you can see, all games are available for PS4 and they run decent enough, are multiplayer games and the new consoles do not offer anything substantial for these kind of players.

    • johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Yeah, but at the same time it makes the PS4 games a much better experience. I dunno if that justifies the spend for a lot of people, but I don’t regret getting one.