Once Discord embraces enshittification, we will meet again. :)
Ironic that traditionally Nitro makes things happen faster, probably in this case as well
What do you mean? Genuine question, I’m loosely familiar with the the issues with Discord having it’s growing issues with data and advertising but I assumed Nitro was the worst element.
The joke in my brain was that Nitro is fast tracking the enshittification of discord
No need when you have free software Mumble + Murmur :)
Isn’t mumble hot garbage? My planet side outfit memes on it whenever it gets brought up.
mumble is pretty good. I’ve been using it for a few years, has great client server support, no bullshit on either side of the fence there. Super minimal client, though my linux client has issues with leaking memory, easy enough fix though, kill it and restart, which takes 2 seconds.
has pretty good bot support, you really can’t ask for much more, a bit more support and community utilization would be nice though, it’s somewhat dead.
So far mumble has been the definition of “just works”
Mumble is like a reliable Toyota Corolla. You will turn no heads, but it has all the features you would need for the task (encryption, room hierachies, ACL, machine-learning-enhanced noise canceling, positional audio, choice of method input like push-to-talk, mini UI overlay atop games), and does them efficiently.
…And like a Toyota Corolla, there’s probably a decent upgrade out there, but you might be compromising on more than you think. Want a car without the manufacturer tracking you or bloated, touch-screen navigation? Many ‘modern’ VoIP options, especially proprietary ones, are literally doing the latter.
Discord enshittification is well under way, just this week I have started seeing ads in the client just above the voice channel status in the bottom left. Cancelled my Nitro immediately, no point if they are going to shove ads in my face anyway.
Currently looking at alternatives, Revolt looks promising, and can be self hosted.
Bullshit. Pics or it didn’t happen. You might have seen a quest, where if you stream a specific game to your friends you get a free in-game item, but these are not advertisements.
Additionally, you can click on it and tell it to never show you any more quests.
Either that or you’re bitching about discord telling you that it has added more voice channel mini games.
You might have seen a quest, where if you stream a specific game to your friends you get a free in-game item, but these are not advertisements.
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Advertising is the practice and techniques employed to bring attention to a product or service. Advertising aims to put a product or service in the spotlight in hopes of drawing it attention from consumers
I have no interest in streaming “quested” games, and whatever deal Discord has done with the developer to encourage users to engage with such games (and by extension the game’s microtransaction economy), and regardless of what they call it, is by definition an advertisement. If you can’t see that, then you are an ad campaign exec’s wet dream. Either that, or a troll.
[Matrix] is the most promising option right noe, having an ecosystem and eee
Schildi Chat is probably the best client I have spotted, full voice and video chat functionality in browser. People do way less hemming and hawing about downloading an app if they’ve already been able to try it out in web - just like discord
Mumble better
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Vent was super lightweight, and easy to use. It’s why it lasted so long.
I had completely forgotten about Ventrilo, Team Speak, and Mumble. This whole post is a blast from the past.
Yea last vent server I ran was like 10+ years ago now… maybe even longer.
Culturally relevant marketing. https://youtu.be/qTsaS1Tm-Ic
Unpopular opinion, ventrilo was better than team speak. It didn’t sound like crap especially when you had good server codecs and it was extremely easy to use and lightweight.
I don’t think that’s unpopular at all, I only ever used vent in highschool and uni, some of the groups I ran with even went back to vent from TS becauae of the sound quality. It was simple and easy to use and pretty much everyone had it.
Where else are you going to suck balls… All day… Because you like it so much?
A lot of WoW people used vent and so people just used what they were used to
Vi sitter här i venten och spelar lite DotA…
it’s gonna be stuck in my head all day now
I hear you man
oh man, you’ve gotten it stuck in my head too!
I refuse to use discord, it is basically malware. Selfhosting is the only way, and TS3 works great for that.
Isn’t TeamSpeak proprietary though?
Yes, but free
If you can’t audit the source code of the program, how do you know if TeamSpeak isn’t malware?
Not everything has to be foss, it is in company’s best interest to not make it as malware. In last 20 years that I have had TS installed on my server and client, have I had it act like malware. Discord in the other hand has instantly caused issues. Not saying that TS3 doesn’t have had bugs, ofc it has had.
If you can trust them not to do anything bad then they can trust you with the source
So you’re just trusting them to not do anything bad?
I know that discord is doing bad shit, so yes.
How often you read the source codes of your tool?
I may not read the source code of every tool I use, but even if the average user doesn’t read the source code, having it available for inspection by others in the community increases security, trust, and overall software quality. All a user really has to do is look at the license of the software they use, typically a GPL or similar license, and consider how reputable it is. Not only that, but if you’re on Linux already, you can just get most of the software from your distro’s repositories.
how is discord malware?
Huge RAM usage, wierd crashes, causes random lag in games, constant enshittification on-going. No thanks.
That’s not malware, that’s just a bad product
hyperbole, ever heard about it?
Can you use it in a sentence?
“Discord is bad product, hyperbolically said, it works like a malware.”
drop version 5 and people might start fucking using it again.
Mumble even though it’s literally dead, is a better platform.
Matrix and XMPP both support this shit also. This is literally a skill issue.
At a glance it looks like Mumble is not dead at all, latest “preview” release is from last month
i dont think the software is “dead dead” but i think it’s dead from the aspect that it seems to be stagnant, which to be clear, isn’t a bad thing. It just feels a little bit like it’s still 2012 everytime you open mumble.
It’s a tad bit disappointing, considering i love it so much. But i don’t think anything else will properly replace it.
Oh, I still use Teamspeak! It’s very nice for small groups up to 32 people (after that one has to use the paid tiers). I do not use X though.
Maybe I’ll give Mumble a shot, so I can integrate it with Matrix/Synapse/Element.
Yeah, I feel like the OP picture is more of a commentary about the overlap, or lack of overlap, between people who use ts, and people that use the service formerly known as Twitter.
Didn’t know mumble could work together with matrix but makes sense
Have to test it but guides suggest that it’s possible
Does mumble integrate with Element?
There are mumble -> matrix bridges you can set up. It doesn’t integrate with element, it integrates with matrix, for which matrix is a client.
Those are text bridges though are they not?
would recommend trying out mumble, it’s pretty slick.
I have no idea what any of you are talking about and it’s great!
Still need it for arma’s radio mods
We use it for additional comms in foxhole, can’t be in multiple channels at once and we’ve got about 8 groups that need to communicate between each other
You can easily do that with some extra key bindings and channel commanders/whisper groups
If you didn’t play EverQuest with Roger Wilco, don’t even talk to me about voice chat.
Me, the mystery dude in the game server who doesn’t have a mic, doesn’t use any voice features, never text chats, but always shows up and plays.
Omg… he finally speaks
Still hosting TS as the primary place my friends record things because of the audio quality and especially reliability compared to Discord, but not so much for hangouts anymore. Got Mumble in the back pocket in case the licensing goes to crap though
I used TS for the first time in like 15 years litterally two days ago, funny timing.
Yeah, I lost EVE. Again.
Here I am self-hosting Mumble for friends & using Mumble at work. Old tech was built to actually be good on resources.
+1 for Mumble. I set up a load of Android PoC devices with a Mumble server and it’s honestly like having walkie-talkies that work over the Intertubes.
My phone has extra buttons, so I use the camera shutter for hardware push-to-talk
Ventrilo was the shit back then.
Past memory unlocked.
Vi sitter här på venten och spelar lite DOTA
"Get off vent or get bent "
Blow it out your ass
My friends and I still use TS3. The audio quality and voice activation is better than Discord’s, and the desktop app doesn’t take ten fucking gigabytes of RAM to run.
Good to hear ts3 is still rockin.
If you use discord, access with a web browser. No need to ever download discord the app
Nah bro that’s just the memory leaks, your supposed to force close and reopen it every so often so the OS cleans up after their shitty application
Memory is cheap nowadays, so that’s a feature /s
I bought the whole RAM, I’m gonna use the whole RAM
