Both these posts sound like satire
The MP saying this nonsense is serious, idiot that she is.
As a filthy American, it’s sad to see standard-issue republiQan Southern Red State rhetoric in Canada. You guys deserve better.
I’ve been saying for a long time that as a Canadian, you can predict the future. Just look across the border, and what you see down there will be arriving here in 10-15 years.
Well we did have the trucker convoy here. A great many people who live in small towns or the northern parts of the country hate Trudeau. I am not a fan either but that’s because I think he should be much more left and do a lot more for us,rather than being a craven centrist. But all Liberals (that’s capital L Liberal) are. But conservatives here HATE him on a personal level and drive around with Fuck Trudeau flags on their obnoxious trucks.
We like our socialized medicine and services here, even conservatives, but that doesn’t make them any less obnoxious.
Well that’s the danger - the conservatives here went full mask-off racist poor-haters which wasn’t as much of a surprise as their unbelievable lack of belief in anything.
No ideology, values, or any other mechanism holds them - not even science, which they pretend to believe in, when it suits them. The so-called ‘adults’ in the party have succumbed utterly to the cult. There are no rational leaders, only figureheads and capos.
It’s shameful and beyond pathetic, and I’d like to think Canada would never fall to such insanity, but the mechanism by which it was carried out (facebook, twitter, Qanon, convoys, right-wing news) are all the same. More power to you progressive Canadians. Hopefully you can weather it.
They do have ideology and ironclad values. It’s very simple: the law should have a class which it protects but does not bind, and a class which it binds but does not protect. And they are always supposed to be in the first class. Because they are awesome. And they’re awesome, you see, because they’re in the first class.
Anything they do is in service of this belief.
Science says the in-group folks are awesome and perfect? Science is great! Science says in-groups and those out-group guys over there are basically the same? Science is useless and probably evil! That out-group person over there says in-group people are better than them? That person is 100% correct! That person says in-group people aren’t better and the out-group people deserve the same things in-groups have? That person is evil and needs to die!
They didn’t hate COVID and refuse to mask because they were just being obtuse. They hated that they were being lumped in with the (in their minds) ‘out-group’ and having all the same restrictions put on them. In their mind, the out-group is the only one that should be restricted. Ever. For any reason.
This is also why the War on Drugs here in the states got so much support. It created a well-defined in-group (white rich people who could still use drugs with impunity) and an out group (poor and people of color who could be accused of drug use and locked up even if they were innocent).
And this is why they’re banning abortion. You’ll note, if pushed, there’s often the vague statement of ‘oh, they can go out of state if they need to’. What they’re really saying is ‘we of the in-group will still be able to get abortions by going elsewhere/having cops look the other way/etc, but you of the out-group won’t’.
They don’t care what it is, as long as they have an item/privilege that the out-group doesn’t have. (I think this might also be why they idolize the rich; the rich naturally have a setup sort of like this thanks to money letting them have more things, and they want that so bad.)
I think we’ll be ok. We do like our social services a lot!
We like them less and less by the year. The politicians keep breaking them, and more and more people are convinced it’s because they’re just inherently not good, not because they’ve been sabotaged.
When I think of Tim Hortons, I think of how I’ve seen the disappearance of reusable flatware and cutlery from such a large proportion of eating establishments, and the normalization of eating-in with exclusively single-use disposable stuff (usually plastic), in about two decades. Future generations will thank us /s. But it’s those effing ‘woke lids’ that are the real problem /s. Also, who cares about Tim Hortons if you don’t like it; it’s not even Canadian. Do conservative voters just need a daily dose of misplaced resentment and rage to keep them going?
Do conservative voters just need a daily dose of misplaced resentment and rage to keep them going?
Yes. Conservative politics is (and always has been) the strategy of giving your followers someone to either fear, hate, look down on, or increasingly all three and then telling them repeatedly that they are the only party who can “fix” it. It’s not about governing, it’s about stoking anger and fear so that donors keep giving them money.
Pre-civil rights it was African Americans in the US and Indigenous people in Canada. Then it became homosexuals, then Mexicans, then migrants in general, then so-called “illegals” and refugees. Then 9-11 happened and it became Muslims. Then brown people in general. And now it’s circled back around to LGBTQ+ and trans folk.
Pick your marginalized society of choice and insert it into the very same playbook that’s always been used.
Little Pierre Poppinfresh isn’t doing or saying anything that hasn’t been Conservative policy from the very beginning. It’s just that thanks to the Trump effect, he no longer has to be subtle about it like his predecessors did.
Did I miss the introduction of paper lids somehow? I know I don’t go to timmies that often, but what?
Apparently so: https://www.blogto.com/eat_drink/2024/04/ontario-plastic-free-coffee-lids-tim-hortons/. I never go there so I don’t know when.
Congrats Ontario on finally getting paper lids.
Between daycare, pharmacare, and now food containers; congratulations on following Québec’s footsteps ;)
Conservatives call this all pinko Commie liberal stuff. Free stuff if you will. Not stuff we paid our hard earned tax dollars for.
Imagine being that small minded.
From the blogto article linked by op:
He says that “After a couple of sips, it became soggy and started to stain. Thereafter, I could taste a few small lid pieces in the drink, which was like ‘yuck.’”
Yep sounds like terrible design and Tim’s cheapen out in the material. I’ve had non plastic caps that were much better than that.
You know what would bring us back to the good old days? A real ceramic mug you can use to sit down, drink it slowly and enjoy. But I haven’t been to a Tim’s in a while where the server would ask if I wanted a mug or to go. Maybe the lady would call that woke too?
I don’t believe that story about the lid for a second
I do, everything at Tim’s is garbage, why would their lids be any different?
Honestly I’m really not surprised. Tim is known for choosing the lowest bidder.
So, capitalism?
they should be called regressives
What do conservatives even want? Like just to set everything back centuries is all I can see. I’ve never seen one of them create or improve anything.
To the Conservative mindset everything is a zero sum game.
Give rights to minorities, that’s taking rights away from white men.
Give restaurant patrons the right to dine in a smoke free environment, that’s taking away the rights of smokers
Increase the minimum wage, that’s devaluing the wages of everyone else
Probably the most telling in a US context is Medicare for all. Free health care devalues their paid healthcare. I mean healthcare is healthcare (sure some doctors are better than others) the only reason someone would be upset that other people could be entitled to the same healthcare as them, whilst costing themselves less, is because these people think they are more deserving of healthcare than other people.
They want the power fantasy of everyone having to listen to them while never having to listen to anybody else
Conservative politicians want to be elected. And the way they want to do this is by stoking meaningless (and mean) culture war issues to keep their base a)angry and b) not focused on economic inequality caused by their donors.
No, this giant corporation was never “for the little guy”, and bad pizza is not some elitist thing.
I have it on good authority that pizza is ‘woke’ mostly because it’s ‘ethnic’ food.
What’s up with people misspelling “return” with a v?
If I were to take a guess, it’ll have to do with the conservative obsession with Ancient Rome.
Man thinking about the Roman empire clock now reset to 0 (again).
Is she tongue fucking that paper lid that it dissolved?
Probably all the action she ever gets.
smoking rooms are still common in Korea. they’re quite nice. they are walled off so you don’t have to smell it
I’ve seen them done well in airports. They have additional extraction and filtering. They are also kept at a negative pressure, so the smoke doesn’t roll out whenever someone opens the door.
I’ve no issues with what people want to put into their bodies. I only take offence when others are forced to be exposed to it.
I only take offence when others are forced to be exposed to it.
People such as the staff who have to work in the smoke filled environment?
I’d definitely be the annoying shit on that one. I would insist on proper PPE for the environment. If the smokers in the team want to handle it without PPE, that’s entirely on them.
It’s also worth noting the smoking rooms are effectively empty, except for lights and some seats. Most staff can avoid it entirely.
Have the employees who smoke work the smoking section. Let us light up with the customers we serve! /s
Edit: I like @Cynar’s idea too. Full respiratory gear like a firefighter. lol
There are a lot of reasons to not bother going to Tim Horton’s, and the lids on their cups is not one of them.
I have only gone in in the last three years because a sweet person gave me a gift card, and hey free lunch. It was gross.
People that go to Tim Hortons for lunch are out of their minds
It doesn’t even really taste like food. It’s like a pack of raccoons have a kitchen.
Travel mugs are a thing, and they don’t come with paper lids.
You even save a little money with them.
Woke… uh… lids?
Conservatives deeply fear change.
Status quo is their god.
And why are they eating the lids?
That’s a joke, making fun of the person saying it was better before
Also Tim’s is a burger place so I am not sure why people are shocked that they bring in food
In Canada they dont have burgers.
Yet but it shouldn’t be a surprise that they are catching us up to speed with the rest of the world
I don’t need tim hortons to catch up with the rest of the world. I need tim hortons to have quality coffee and fresh donuts, which for a COFFEE shop, they don’t have.
Only people here consider it that and that’s only because a restaurant that doesn’t exist was a coffee shop before selling the name to a different company
Unrealistic expectations
They do burgers in 'Murica? Yikes…
