No.
Go vote in October.
People who don’t vote, always end up voting for the winner.
Aha! So my choices are facists who will drive me off the cliff slowly or fascists who will drive me off the cliff quickly . !
NICE CHOICES GOIS!
‘jUst VoTE tHe FasciSm AwAy1!!¿¡21’
Uh-oh. You promoted voting. Time for all the dbzer0 and .ml chodes to show up and tell you why you shouldn’t do that.
Which, of course, is all the more reason to vote. If you do the opposite of anything anyone from either of those instances say, you are almost assuredly doing the right thing.
If you sit on the fence as the fence burns down, you’ll end up in the dirt with everyone else.
One side started war with iran while other side didn’t
One side destroyed relationship with strongest allies for nothing while other side didn’t.
One side went to war with people on the streets with ICE and lowered recruitment requirements while other side didn’t.
One side gave us Pete Hegseth while otherside didn’t.
One side started tariff war for nothing while other side didn’t.
Both sides same though I guess?
But the bus tried to get votes from republicaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiigghh!!
*crunch*
There were so many people honking in support at the rally last weekend. All i could think was, “Please just vote. It doesn’t mean anything if you don’t act.”
if you choose a instead of voting to luigi the people attempting to murder everyone on the bus, you can get quicker results because the bus is moving forward regardless.
We’ll follow your lead.
But the bus driver supports genocide. The whole bus is rotten. We should let the bus go off the cliff and then build a new bus. I’m sure enough of us will survive the crash to build a better bus afterwards. Many people will die but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.
🤡🤡🤡
Many people will die but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.
But not from the genocides?
How does social collapse stop the genocides? Explain that part in detail, because I’m pretty sure any global socioeconomic collapse will accelerate existing genocides and probably add quite a few more. Like, do you numpties understand half the world dies in your best case scenarios, the first of which will absolutely be all the people being genocided currently?
in both the thought experiment and the US vote, the genocide happens no matter which way you vote, or if you don’t vote at all… there are no choices that have a real chance of reducing the genocide
the genocide happens no matter which way you vote
Im glad yall are finally being honest.
But the bus driver supports genocide. The whole bus is rotten.
You ever notice how the ‘burn it down’ people fall into two camps?
- not in the affected area: chicken-hawk types who advocate the sacrifice of others.
- in the affected area: I didn’t know the leopards of societal collapse, starvation, and violence, would eat my face.
Type 2 also includes the “why’s it taking so long? Look at all these people suffering through the collapse. We need to make it collapse faster so we get to the good part faster” people, without acknowledging that this is what collapse looks like: lots of suffering
Who said there was a good part to get to? Turns out damaging the bus in any manner, whether by driving, inaction, or burning it on the road, is all bad. No one has mentioned hitting the brakes… oh wait, which one of you cut the lines?
But the bus driver said it’s going to take a few extra hours to get to the destination because of all the buses creating congestion on the highway. So clearly burning the bus to the ground is the only viable option, and in fact, if you don’t light the match then you actually support traffic jams! /s
Making the downfall faster is fighting stupid with stupid. They are still bringing on the end of the world or whatever evangelicals are imagining.
There will be so much shit to eat your grandchildren will still be at it. I do not understand accelerationism or similar ideas one bit.
Yeah but you can just blame all that suffering on the people trying to hold the whole thing together, because obviously if you just let the whole thing collapse then the suffering will end abruptly and a magical utopia can finally descend from the heavens! /s
You joke, but the number of people I’ve seen posting along the lines of ‘I don’t this, I’m exempted!’ Is extremely infuriating. The individualism bubble has them thinking it’s a shield from reality.
Oh, I know. Believe me, do I know…
Just a bunch of moralists sniffing their own farts.
How about nobody in this situation is virtuous.
Go vote for pedo blue and tell yourself how righteous and great you are compared to the other shitty option camps.
Before you bitch and moan at me for differing from groupthink: I will be voting for blue pedo this turn about but I’m not gonna be online in a fart smelling circle with a bunch of do nothing moralists about it.
Please get over yourselves, you vote for slavery that’s out of sight abroad and pedos who eat babies so you can play gta6, you aren’t righteous.
pedo blue
This reeks of desperation.
I will be voting for blue pedo this turn about
Lol. Immediately abandon your morals. You don’t have a problem calling them pedos but you’ll vote for pedos…this time.
Literally what I’m talking about. Look down on people while you vote for a corporate democrat.
Your comment is exactly what I would expect from someone who just loves the smell of their own shit.
How are people supposed to feel bad about suffering when it’s people who talk down to them like you who will suffer? Maybe I will just not vote with them. Let’s crash the bus.
All in all, a good win for you though. Simpsons memes are always a hoot. I wish I was as moral and just and smart as you.
How does it feel to sniff your own farts while accusing everyone else of sniffing theirs? Does it make the high you get more intense?
No u!
Exactly, all you have is projection…
The fact you assume we aren’t holding our noses while we vote is your problem. You take a morally superior attitude while doing exactly what we’re doing. Except we don’t go around trash talking the people we’re voting for a few weeks before the election, since that might MAKE THEM FUCKING LOSE
Your presumptuousness and hypocrisy are disgusting.
Weird, I thought I was responding to your friends doing it first. Crazy you decided it’s my fault.
Your group is the one that immediately goes to ostracizing others.
I didn’t presume shit. It’s all written out before my response to this shit show. If you’re offended, I wonder why?
Bullshit. Quote me then. Quote me where I say anything close to “I like these candidates. They are my preferred choice out of all proposed options past and present”.
You can’t. Because it’s factually inaccurate. You can’t find that shit for most of us. Because that’s not how we feel. We’re all holding our noses, just like you.
If you can prove otherwise, I encourage you to do so.
Oops, all of the people who had the institutional knowledge to build a new bus died in the bus accident.
But you do need to build a new bus. You should start talking about how to stop the bus, let out the passengers, then setting fire to it.
Meanwhile: .ML BAD
It sounds stupid because it is…
Pedal to the metal, accelerate!
You call it clowning, but this is literally the strategy that was used to defeat slavery. The “play within the system” planned was attempted for nearly a hundred years by the Abolitionists. They tried your way again and again. Slavery only ended when they abandoned your way and started a third party.
Except a third party is still voting? I only clown on third party voters when they:
a) split the vote of a single party instead of pulling from both parties and new voters (because it only helps the remaining party cement their dominance in the next election through gerrymandering etc)
b) have clown policies that appeal only to emotion, with no path to implementation (I’m looking at you, Jill Stein and Ross Perot)
Show me a legitimate third party candidate with good policy proposals and a plan to gain votes without guaranteeing the worst candidate wins and I’ll vote for 'em, campaign for 'em, and more.
Third party isn’t burning the bus down or letting it drive off the cliff. Third party (when done well) is a third bus driver choice. I’m all for that.
Appropriate emojis considering the message. Hoping they’re in place of a /s
Absolutely in place of /s
Good to know!!
“The five non-voters are the true anarchists who see the violence inherent in the system. Actually the two who voted against driving off the cliff are wrong for even supporting a system in which voters can choose to drive the bus off the cliff. They’re actually worse than the three who voted to drive the bus off the cliff, because they tacitly approve of driving the bus off the cliff just by participating in the system which allows the bus to be driven off the cliff, while fooling themselves into feeling morally absolved of the decision to drive off the cliff! So the non-voters are the only virtuous ones in this situation”
(The /s should be clear, right?)
(The /s should be clear, right?)
… are you new to the Fediverse? I encounter such arguments uttered unironically virtually every time I browse here - especially in election season.
You’re… not wrong…
Might I should have included a second “…right?” after that statement
It’s a toughie. Some people think indications of sarcasm ruin the fun.
I’m of the opinion that one should always clearly indicate satire due to Poe’s Law.
I like to put it in italics and sometimes attribute it to the group I’m parodying, or if an individual, I add “probably.” Observe:
“This entire thread is woke garbage. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. I’ll drive this bus off that cliff better than anyone ever has. Better than Biden ever could. Biden tried to stop the bus and fill it with illegals. Putin promised me there’s rainbows at the bottom of that valley, and not the radical left rainbows either. The kind that leads you to beautiful, clean, black gold.”
- Donald Jeffreyepsteinsfavoritecustomer Trump, probably
Anakin stare intensifies
You’ve angered the .ml and .dbzer0 trolls.
Tankie tears are my favorite beverage.
Thank you for the clown emojis because I 100% thought you were seroius because of how many fools there are on Lemmy that believe that exact sentiment and they aren’t joking. Juvenile fools.
You can fairly reliably tell whether or not such a post/comment is made genuinely (albeit perhaps astroturfically) or sardonically by merit of the instance from which the commenter posts.
I almost added a /s too just to be safe
You chauvinists really deserved 9/11
Bad analogy, 3 vote to drive off the cliff, 2 vote to drive it off the cliff inclusively. Either way the only smart choice is to bail the fuck out.
Leave the country instead of trying to improve it? Sucks for anyone about to be hit by a falling bus surrendered to the people voting to send it off a cliff.
You can stay on the sinking ship if you want. This public has made it very clear that they are listless and will not fight back.
‘Stay and die to make a point’ is way less convincing when it’s your life on the line. Anyone who shames someone (especially a targeted minority) for fleeing a fascist state is frankly unhinged and needs to touch grass. Especially in the case of the US, where simply not living in the country doesn’t negate your right to cast a ballot.
I’m not judging people with their life/freedom at risk deciding to get out while they can. I am judging the person I responded to for saying that voting against fascism is support for fascism. There are a lot of people getting hurt and dieing abroad who didn’t have the choice to vote in our elections, and I judge anyone saying that by not voting they are not at fault for what their vote might have prevented.
Both voters are voting for different colors of fascists. If you think goddamn Pelosi is a fucking savior you’re quite litterally retarded. Fuck right off.
Either way the only smart choice is to bail the fuck out.
So like, go live off grid in the middle of nowhere?
Bail the fuck out would only mean leaving the country, ie bus, allowing everyone else to die while pretending to be morally pure.
You do not need to be physically present in the US to vote, and there is absolutely nothing morally “impure” about keeping yourself safe.
Exactly where did you see any indication this person was talking about fleeing for safety?
Ah yes, the primary reason people flee fascist states: not for safety.
There was no reason to be hostile about a random thing you assumed which quote honestly may have nothing to do with what that particular Internet rando was even talking about.
I’m sorry if my mild sarcasm was too hostile for you. Saying that people fleeing the country are leaving everyone to die while pretending to be morally pure isn’t a sentiment I feel a particular need to be respectful about.
Better to regain/repurpose control of the bus
But also remember to meet your neighbors, form communities, and join political groups before Election Day.
It’s important to vote, for sure, but if we aren’t part of the selection process that provides good candidates that’s when it feels useless. This is especially true for everyone that hates both parties.Yep voting is distasteful but necessary. People often forget the second half. Of running unworthy hacks out on a rail when they inevitably turn on you. Primaries are some of the most important though often neglected votes. Along with organizing and supporting actual good candidates from the community.
Not voting for anyone is also a part of a democracy, so it is completely fine if you dont wish to vote.
But then you should also not be whinning if someone you didn’t like won.
Both.
More like 3 people vote to drive off one cliff, 3 people vote to drive off another cliff, 3 people don’t vote, and 1 person votes not to drive off the cliff.
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