What makes anybody think an American who condemns the looting in France approves of everything that’s wrong in America?
Boot lickers tend to lick boots.
Small amount of looting? That has absolutely destroyed the livelihood of some of the small shop owners while also negatively affecting the local economies for the foreseeable future. Meanwhile, mansions, multinational offices, and banks, y’know, the ones belonging to the supposed oligarchs pushing the ever-diminishing standards of living have remained untouched.
Face it, the protests have been hijacked by criminal opportunists with the barest facade of an excuse, and far from it being just “USians” condemning it, now every far-right social network in every part of the world pushed into the feeds by their respective Musks is taking advantage of the mayhem to associate it to their opposition and to top it off with a heavy dose of racism. Seeing Paris burned down by people who are students in facade only (and it’s easy to tell the rioters from the students actually protesting) has absolutely fed the growth of the far right across multiple countries while doing little to economically help anyone but the looters who help themselves.
and it’s easy to tell the rioters from the students actually protesting
You’re this close, keep trying.
Small amount of looting? That has absolutely destroyed the livelihood of some of the small shop owners while also negatively affecting the local economies for the foreseeable future
You’ll need to point out which small shops were looted, because from what’s been reported, it’s mostly luxury boutique stores.Nevermind, I saw the links you provided. Super unfortunate for the small shop owners
but also because msms are only choosing to show looting and framing it as the worst thing that happened.
Once more, only insurances lost some money. Shopowners will be fine. Their shop will be renewed with insurance money. It is not the first time such happens, last was about a year ago…
That’s not how insurance works. It covers only a small part of the losses, and only for the shops that can afford the rising rates.
Which shop hasn’t been covered by insurance after Nahel’s death?
Ironically enough, the big multinational shopping centers will be the ones most likely to recover. Half the businesses lacked loss of activity coverage, and there were plenty of them that had to wait half a year or more for any payout. Thinking there were no bankruptcies is ignorance beyond belief.
Just because you don’t see or care about owners having to pass down their businesses and just treat them like faceless stores doesn’t mean they aren’t forced to roll over. It’s like claiming who cares about riot police being violent with protestors when they can just go to the hospital.
You know how the economy is, and you are choosing to victim blame the riot victims if they are “stupid” enough not to be able to get back on their feet, no matter if they have literally nothing to do with what the protests are supposedly against. Just don’t be surprised when your rationale ends up with those shops eventually ending up in the hands of the large multinationals that can survive it and the society becomes even more dystopian.
I live in France, in a working class/poor side of town. During last riots (2023), some shops got looted and burnt, some only looted (and some fully spared). They were not multinationals, just local shops. All of them got rebuilt and renewed, or reimboursed of the stolen goods. None has closed. I care about them, they are the shops where I buy things.
I may check what international news say in their analysis ; but understand that it is not that easy to believe this time will be very different from the previous one, while the previous one was already as the one before it.
And no, violence toward humans isn’t the same as stealing from a shop, nor violence against goods. Should some hurt, even lightly, a shopowner, it would be a big thing in my opinion. Violences against material things aren’t that important, some may not be smart nor usefull ; some can be helpful for the cause.
Also, keep in mind that since at least 15 years, in France, the gouvernment won’t try to listen the people if there are no huge damages. So you may hate it, but that has became a rule. When a pacific dialog was possible, there were no riots here, just peaceful manifestations.
Maybe it will be renewed, maybe it won’t. Maybe they weren’t insured or maybe their claim will just be rejected. Anyway it sucks big time for those who had their property destroyed even if they get back every euro.
Not insured for such? I am not sure if it is possible here, but it would be totally stupid. The only cause of rejection would come from proof the shopowner was at the initiative of looting and burning (which is rarely the case, but happens).
the oligarchs have it made in america
About the same percentage of Americans protested against Trump in March as French protested over the weekend.
But with 1/10 the population density, the US protests appeared smaller.
so they protested at a shocking 1/10 per capita. significantly lower
Not how density works.
No, they protested at the similar rate per capita. Just fewer people per square kilometer.
France is nearly 550,000 square kilometers in size. The US is nearly 10 million square kilometers in size.
France has about 125 people per square kilometer. The US has 34.
The US protests are not nearly as sustained or as regulaly occurring as the French protests.
I also take umbrage with the notion that 0.9% of the population standing in a field or walking down a street would be as “active” as 0.7% of the population getting in street fights with cops and burning buildings down, even if both happened for the same amount of time.
A coworker says that all the problems in Paris is because Hillary has sent Antifa to cause chaos…
Yeah no wonder oligarchs can get away with anything when the populace is that gullible
Side note: the person that said this just got divorced for beating his wife. And he has been looking for a girlfriend and he has a list of demands he’s wants for a future relationship.
- She can’t be Mexican, even though he is Mexican.
- she can’t be an immigrant.
- she can’t be a liberal.
- she can’t have dyed hair
- no tattoos.
- She can’t be a fan of Taylor Swift.
- she has to be religious, preferably Mormon.
- no job or any aspirations other than having kids.
Hey, at least he’s clear about it. Much better than someone who pretends to be left-wing to get in someone’s pants.
But the chaos is not the bad part… the bad part is, as the meme says, normalising ever-diminishing standards of living (frogboiling)…
media is only showing looting to gain sympathey for the right.
More like people acting like idiots confusing protesting for looting.
And yet nobody seems willing to acknowledge that America has just turned out a fourth largest protest in the nation’s history over the last two years, mobilizing tens of millions of people with no significant reports of violence or looting.
I guess it doesn’t count when organizers successfully create a peaceful environment that doesn’t play into the hands of the fascists in our government who are looking for any excuse to enact martial law and suspend elections to establish their total and complete authority?
Yes but that only matters if the government your under gives a shit about that sort of thing. You doing nothing as they round up ‘illegal voters’ is playing into the hands of fascists.
We had nationwide protests that turned violent with rioting and looting in 2020 under this same regime. It achieved no meaningful change but to turn public opinion against the movement. We’re still recovering from the social trauma that caused and it’s only given ammunition to the opposition. Portland, OR is still a pariah on the national scene due to the violence and looting that happened here in 2020 despite the last six years of adopting a more peaceful way of protesting.
The regime was unprepared for the violent response then but they are prepared for it now. A year ago they were doing everything they could to provoke a violent response, declaring blue cities as enemies within and deploying our own states’ national guards against us. Our response was to turn out in large, peaceful numbers. It made this regime look foolish and they’ve since halted their deployment of the military against blue cities.
They need us to be violent so they can use it to turn the general public against us; and so we show up peacefully and “do nothing”. As a result, they have no enemy to rally the general public against, their actions have no justification and public opinion of this regime is at record-breaking lows and is continuing to trend lower.
It achieved no meaningful change but to turn public opinion against the movement
Because it only fell the mask for many Americans. Private property is more important to them than any amount of social improvement.
Keep being docile and keep licking those boots, that’ll definitely show them who’s boss.
our government who are looking for any excuse to enact martial law and suspend elections to establish their total and complete authority?
Lmao, well goodness, it’s a good thing you guys didn’t upset anyone during your parade, you wouldn’t want the government to act lawlessly and in an authoritarian manner!
Lol, the irony of your username.
And yours, lol.
What does that large protest do, though? In what way does it pressure the state to enact change? A large amount of people asking nicely doesn’t make fascists decide to no longer be fascist - at best all you can really do with it is spread your message to more people. It took more than peaceful protests during the civil rights movement, and our state still is systemically discriminatory against minorities.
America is a vastly different country now versus what it was during the civil rights movement. If Nixon got ousted for Watergate, imagine how short Trump’s presidency would have been had he taken office in that era.
Our government today is not aligned with the interests of the general public. It serves the interests of a small subset of the populace and rallies broader support through authoritarian action against a propagandized enemy.
The reality is that this government will not be influenced by any protest we can realistically organize. Despite our 2A rights, the state has far more power than its citizens possess in arms. Economically, too many Americans are either too beholden to or dependent on the system to endure a general strike. A violent protest will turn the general public against the movement and give the state an excuse to crush dissent and make themselves out to be the hero.
These large, peaceful protests are not intended to directly influence the state to change policy but rather are designed to invite the public into a safe space with their neighbors and community where they are more receptive to the idea that we are oppressed by the system this state perpetuates and how we can realistically enact change. The midterms will be a measure of how effective this movement has been.
Not saying it’s perfect but it can help spread the word for voting purposes.
Spot on!
Because Americans literally do nothing as their form of protest. They allow the steamrolling to happen to protect their own vapid moral integrity.
Canadians might be worse in terms of doing nothing. The average Canadian in my experience can’t even imagine politics left of the NDP (our social democrats).
The slow slide to the right that’s just beginning here feels like it’s just a boring fact and not a struggle.
Yah but at least we don’t vote in obvious fascists or separate under obvious foreign lobbying, your just fingerprinting to avoid facing the reality the left in America is getting walked all over.
vote in obvious fascists
We will eventually.
When? stop saying ‘it’ll happen’ just because Americans are Fuck ups and projecting their failure when it’s clear it’s not taking hold in Canada. If anything it’s getting weaker as we watch America further fall because of this mindset. Many in my life that first though maga and Donald were great and done a 180 having seen what a monumental failure of governance he’s perpetrated, stop getting sucked into those failed liberals doomerism.
It definitely is beginning to happen with immigrants, indigenous people, and trans people. We’re like 20 years off from it.
Wtf are you talking about, there has been no backsliding here in Canada, you sound like a maga nutcase when Joe was in office going on about lonni shit with no base in reality. The only thing we reduced was immigration and it improved youth job numbers. That’s the only thing that’s changed. You can blame Justin for that, mass importing laborer by over half a mill a year. It’s not like we’re dragging people off to concentration camps like ice are.
You sound exactly like some conservative who’d complain about “immigrants shitting on beaches” or something like that, so why should I trust you on this?
The treats will run out eventually
My only concerns and areas I consider off limits really are pharmacies and medical supply stores, medical places. Thinking on it a bit and ruminating, I can accept small businesses being looted if it provides incentive for the person to be upset with the state as well instead of the protests.
Yeah, most people think “wow, that guy has a great point, I never thought of it that way” when looters burn down their livelihood.
Wow, that guy is burning down people’s livelihoods. That’s a great point, I never thought of it that way. Destroying private property is awesome. Thanks to this french contemporary looting artist I saw on TV, I realized I don’t have private property and that I don’t give a shit when the bourgeoisie loses theirs. He really moved me.
That wouldn’t affect me personally, so I dont care
You’ll make a fantastic Republican some day, you already got the empathic rot done with!
No empathy for the bourgeoisie.
Oh, poor corporations!
What are you, some oligarch boot licker? We are descending into authoritarianism and you are endorsing oligarch talking points to discredit movements for reform.
They should make sure to stop buy your house and loot it just to make sure you get the point 🙄
It’s mostly been luxury stores that have been looted (at least from the reporting).
May I ask why you draw the line there?
Because people, especially those rioting, are dependent on the medicines that such establishments provide. I thought the idea was don’t fuck with the firefighters and paramedics. I would have thought it extends toward those.
It’s performative. Remember, everything they take time to speak up on is projection of some sort, so they’re just mad about the reasons for the protests and find it advantageous to complain about the small percentage of people taking advantage of the protests to loot and cause damage in order to distract and taint the movements they don’t like or support. They’re literally virtue signaling, another thing they like to condemn when it’s done by someone they disagree with or don’t like, but here they are sitting behind a screen typing out how they would never do property damage or enter a building without permission or when it’s against the law, despite not speaking up when it’s their “side” doing it.
USians don’t even wanna do a mass strike let alone march in and remove the people causing so many people to die and put them out of everyone’s misery. Bunch of moaning little self righteous PC ego trippers.
Yup, so many people cam out of the wood work to point figure at Germany when their nazi Marty’s won one Provence, not the whole country, a PROVENCE. Many libs on here are hypocrites looking to point fingers because deep down, they know their efferts are weak.
Cuckservatives support billionaire pedophiles because that’s what they aspire to be.
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choo choo motherfucker
