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Zelenskyy furious as Trump announces deal to buy Russian diesel
furious
I dispute that. Way too clickbaity, but that’s just the way of headlines these days.
The interview this is based on uses the word “exasperated” which I find much more fitting.
His words sound furious, whether he described himself in that way exactly or not
But they aren’t posting about a politician or famous person. They are posting about this cuck Gunther.
The purpose of this rule is because when I first took over as mod, there were some dubious things being stated in these memes as facts. I got sick of fact checking everything. The spirit of the rule is to make sure that you have back up for anything politicians or famous people say, unless you mark it as satire.
Convenient timing since proof of the deal won’t arrive before the midterms. Russia is experiencing severe gas shortages and Putin has nothing to give except maybe reminders about who owns copies of the Epstein tapes.
Make no mistake this is a trick.
Russia HAS NO DIESEL TO EXPORT. They’re importing at a huge government loss from India.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/articles/russia-import-diesel-fuel-while-135000913.html
This fake deal accomplishes exactly two things:
- It lets Trump give Putin money for arms against Ukraine and all Putin has to do is middle man Indian diesel.
- It lets Trump attack Ukrainians when they strike Russian refineries because they’re "bombing our American diesel supply chain.
The US is a NET EXPORTER of diesel. They don’t need more fuel. The problem is the market price is increasing due to mostly Hormuz since Russian oil is sanctioned. All he’s doing is lifting this sanction to pay Putin to buy arms. Stopping Putin from trading fuel for arms was the entire purpose of the sanctions in the first place.
Trump is a traitor.
Russia has a severe shortagw of diesel due to Ukrain drones hitting its refineries. Putin will give US nothong but promises, just like Trump.
Meanwhile, utter silence on all of his fuckups, including putting us in the dumbass position to begin with.
Yeah Foreign Policy geniuses couldn’t believe anyone would be as stupid as Trump.
Foreign Policy geniuses
In the USA? Who’s that?
The people in the embassies.
It’s cool to turn your back on your allies.
The USA has no allies. Non. Zero. Even Israel and Russia are not their allies, they just are taking advantage of them.
I’ve said it many times: Cuckold nation.
Propaganda at its finest.
And even worse, the propaganda gets inserted into spaces where it shouldn’t be under the guise of “hurr durr look how outrageous this is?!”
Don’t repost propaganda. It’s propaganda because it is insidious, it works, and people think they are above it.
Isn’t Russia supposed to be very short on fuel itself? Where are they getting all this extra from?
Iran
It’s less diesel than the US uses in a day.
Isn’t this like 2.3 million barrels? And the uses 2.9 million barrels per day? My math might be off though
Also the entire problem is that he started a war with Iran over bullshit situations he created.
We were already not importing Russian oil, to support our global interests.
Now. Losing a war with a country who didn’t invade us AND helping another country Invade their neighbor.
10/10 dumbassery
If your maths is off I don’t think it’s off by much - those figures look roughly correct. Drop in the ocean.
Drop in the ocean.
Damn that sounds cynical wrt USA’s fossil fuel usage.
Yeah, it’s a bit of an exaggeration… but it’s still less than one three hundred and sixty fifth of the annual usage by the population of the country. And we’re not even bringing petrol / gasoline into the equation - as I understand it.
These numbers start to put fossil fuel usage into perspective.
That’s what I thought too, 300.000 tons might sound like a lot but the US (not even including the global markets part of the post) use A LOT of fuel. It’s quite literally a drop in the bucket
I save a Mr Global video and I think he said that 300k tons in October was like 18 minutes of fuel based on usage. And the 500k tons in November was 30 minutes.
So very much nothing at all. Which is why it was reported in tons and not barrels.
de-escalating with another nuclear armed power is good. We shouldn’t trust them, but we can’t fight them because that means nuclear Armageddon
There’s a difference between deescalation and capitulation via self inflicted pain. Zelensky was not wrong to call this a weak decision.
So, just bend over cuz that’s safer? Wtf are you saying?
There’s a typo in your username, ThatGuyNamedIvan.
Good to know you don’t care about dying in a nuclear war
The reason no one buys your bullshit is that you say things you think are convincing but forget that they’re convincing to you because you’re a simpleton.
You can lead a horse to water…
Why does no one ever ask Putin to de-escalate?
Lmao what even is this argument? We should let Russia invade other countries, abduct children, murder and rape the people and commit genocide, because they have nukes? We don’t care about what happens to the people in Ukraine, as long as we are cozy and safe far away from the front lines? And what if we’d let Putin steamroll Ukraine, where does it end? When he takes the Balkans? When he takes Poland?
Specifically to prevent an all out war all the countries have gone out of their way to prevent open warfare. We provide money, weapons, food and other aid to Ukraine. We provide specialists to assist them with management and infrastructure. But we don’t send in our troop, we don’t attack Russia or even help fight in Ukraine. Economic sanctions are applied and yes these sanctions hurt everyone, it’s a big pain in the ass. The idea is to provide a way of applying pressure without resorting to war. As long as they hurt Russia, it’s worth it.
Saying stuff like the sanctions are making Russia stronger is total nonsense, the sanctions are hurting them a lot. Russia was heavily reliant on selling their oil and gas, now that they can hardly do that anymore, their economy is in big trouble. And sure it strengthens the bond between Russia and China, but that’s not the boon for Russia some people make it out to be. China knows Russia is hard stuck and has been milking them hard, buying oil at a very low price and selling stuff for higher prices. And China also wants to keep the rest of their trading partners happy, so there are limits to what they will do.
If we stand together we can contain the fighting in Ukraine, where Russia was the agressor and prevent escalation both in size and scale. I doubt very much Russia will resort to nukes, as that will unleash the rest of the world against them. We might all lose, but they will lose themselves and it’s their choice to prevent that from happening. We will be able to beat back Russia and hopefully allow them to reform and come back into the fold.
Slava Ukraini!
No it doesn’t, we’ve had sanctions on them for quite awhile now and there was no Armageddon. I think you’re russian, tbh.
By the way, those sanctions only hurt the value of the US dollar.
Before the sanctions biden put on them, businesses based in russia could do international transactions in american dollars, which helped the US dollar have more value, because people needed to have some american dollars to do international transactions. Now international transactions between civilians in russia and another country are done in russian rubles.
Biden made russia stronger with the sanctions he signed off on. But I doubt he even knew what was going on around him most of the time, he had pretty severe dementia
Edit: And I’m not russian, I’m Swiss, if you must know
So, where was the Armageddon you spoke of?
thankfully it hasn’t happened, but the the possibly is always there. Mutually assured destruction
They make it sound like Russia is handing over the fuel. The “weak” have been holding off buying shit from Russia because it was a way of fucking Russia’s economy. Trump just buckled.
Buckled for nothing and it won’t even work because the sanctions were passed by Congress and even Roberts isn’t that much of a partisan hack, yet.
Will it lower gas prices? No. Will the dumpkin and his cronies get richer? Yes.
Will a lot of idiots THINK gas is cheaper, and vote Republican? Also yes.
Depending on fossil fuels has its pecularities.
Terms of the deal are public?
Sure. He said he magically got something hugely valuable with no cost, and no one else has publicly confirmed that’s true. So the entire deal is actually public: it’s a bunch of made up BS that no one will corroborate as real. It’s that imaginary wall Mexico was paying for all over again.
Hey, look at me. I’m publicly stating that the nation of Italy has agreed to sell me the heel of the boot. The whole place, we’re gong’s slice it right of, and float it to Texas and open a vineyard there. And maybe a monster truck theme park.
Don’t make any of that true just because someone said it.
