We need stakeholder primacy over shareholder primacy! Stakeholder Socialism
They transfer wealth upwards
*downwards. They’re shitty people, let’s stop glorifying them, which is supported by “trickle-down economics” that went right into their hands so to them, it worked.
Wow. Someone suddenly gets it.
“there is no world police”, said Chinese Communist Political Party
Isnt china mostly destroying the biosphere and failing to meet basic needs? Rural china is still cooked and people in the city are working 80hr weeks living in a tiny box.
The western world meets the basic needs of 99+% of the population and has a lot more environmental protection.
I’d argue the USA and China are both Auth Cap, but coming from different directions. We need Stakeholder Socialism that focuses on aligning ownership and control of the economic firms into the hands of those directly impacted by their ecological and economic impacts. A coöp commonwealth is a good example.
the point is for billionaires to hoard wealth. literally capitalism.
Economics, as an intellectual discipline, is closer to theology than physics. Its power is proportional to the belief it commands.
Finance is an arbitrary subset of mathematics, cherry picked by the owning class, protected from scrutiny, and applied as their supporting mythology.
It’s entirely imaginary, which means alternatives are only ever a conjuring away. We did it after the Enlightenment, we can do it again.
Well the current economic system allows me to play WoW Forever…. Soooooooo.
Make the rich richer.
The status quo does not just enrich the rich. It also allows its privileged to rape children without consequences.
Every one driving the train has a little goblin inside, jumping up and down on the table shreeking “I WANT MORE MONEY!!!”
If you think to yourself that those problems are the result of merely an economic system, you really need to get your brain checked.
GO THE FUCK ON THEN…WE’RE WAITING.
Waiting for what?
Your elaboration on whatever the hell you are talking about.
What part are you confused about?
Still waiting
Tell me which part you’re confused about, and I’ll gladly elaborate for you.
You’re just waiting for yourself.
you really need to get your brain checked.
Pot, meet kettle.
Nice one.
shit man we’re not even really a capitalist economy, if we were truly i could buy any wifi router i want, or chinese auto, or those small trucks to name a few
this system is big businesses continually lifting the ladder up behind them
What else would it be? Capitalism is built on maximizing profit in a market system. Thus everything else comes at the expense of that. There are entire towns and villages in Mexico going with little to no water because coca-cola is extracting most of their natural water sources to make sugary soft drinks because it’s more profitable than meeting needs or preserving natural water sources. This isn’t complicated.
What else would it be? Capitalism is built on maximizing profit in a market system.
You are sneaking in this inane premise that we exist under pure, free-market capitalism, and always have.
Try again.
No I’m merely suggesting that those who own capital, especially major shareholders in environmentally destructive industries will simply try to be profitable however they can regardless of impact on the environment. They may even utilize state influence to do so. Hence why there is no “pure free market capitalism”, just class interests.
what would you suggest?
what would you suggest?
Not being so myopic as to boil all those problems down to being the result of a particular economic system. Was that not clear?
Definitely the type of dipshit who says “Oh, you don’t like capitalism? But you participate in it. Curious”
Why are you under the impression that I would say that?
The point is to provide more billions to billionaires.
Don’t you know? The world is just one big resort for the Epstein class and we are the staff
There’s the Hunter and then the hunted. The predator and the prey. Most people in the world are prey. You throw out one cycle of predator and then the prey takes over they eventually become the predator. I think it’s a something fundamentally embedded in the life cycle of creatures. I don’t like being prey but I’m not interested in being a predator. So now what?
Many adult prey animals have developed formidable defenses against predators: the horse a powerful kick, the bull its horns, the possum its acting. So I guess your options are either play dead or learn to shoot.
People who say this are full of shit.
People blaming capitalism are just distracting from the real issue, which is having not having a genuine culture of sustainability. India, for example, is a capitalist country but it has growing forests and wildlife unlike most of the world. Their conversation efforts are second to none. On the flip side, you have a country like Brazil, which is destroying its vast forests and wildlife for short terms profits driven by pure greed. The difference between the two? A culture of sustainability.
Changing capitalism is not going to change this. For example, we’ve already seen how Marxist economic systems functioned and they’re an even bigger ecological disaster. The Soviet Union literally wiped out the Aral sea for cotton farming. If capitalism was the root issue then the Soviet Union would’ve been a marvel for sustainability, but they weren’t. That’s because Russian culture prioritizes short term gains and endless growth over sustainability like say for example, Finnish culture.
It sounds less sexy but that’s the real problem. If the general population doesn’t believe in sustainability then nothing can ever change. Things like pollution, deforestation, global warming, desertification, water scarcity, overfishing, and so on will continue to get ignored and sidelined in favor convenient short term wins like slightly cheaper gas, political quotas, and growth charts.
The fuck are you on about? India has massive issues with pollution from industrial manufacturing that has led to incredibly high rates of illness and death in its major cities. Capitalist countries will have environmentalist projects as a means to greenwash its image. That’s all.
prioritizes short term gains and endless growth over sustainability
Who does that sound like? Do you even hear yourself?
These are not exclusive to capitalism is the whole point that I made. The Soviet Union and China (under Mao at least) both were Marxist and heavily wrecked the environment for the same things, short term gains and endless growth. They both set out to meet short term political quotas and goals by any means even if it meant ravaging the environment. They had no intention of slowing down because they need to constantly chase growth in order to chase unrealistic ideological goals.
The meme didn’t attack capitalism. It attacked a thought process. Then you gave an answer that didn’t address the problem. Didn’t even try.
