Not sure if this is AI. If so, then it is an example that AI content need not always be bad.
But it is on who owns it and uses it for what. Collective control over AI, directing it for the benefit of the people would be good.
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Anyway, since this is causing discussion: Anyone with the meme making skills see a non-AI version of this? Or anyone who has the skills to do that? Or anyone who can share the tutorials to easily/quickly learn how to do that?
The message of the content is great and right! It is fun no one commented it yet. Or may be ignoring the message was part of their answer.
One who refuse any type of AI use could make a version, even by hand as some claims, or in 10 minutes… But they of course disagree with an important part of the message.
For them, the rich editor who owns the intellectual rights on works is someone to protect. They identify to the worker who has his only cookie (the remaining part of his intellectual rights the rich has let him). And they are scared by collectivism.
So great job, you forced them to see otherwise for a second! I hope some of them may take a time to think farther than their cookie.
Really awkward formatting. Someone def made this in AI and then clumsily collaged them together.
As for the “tool neutral, usage good” argument, I think of it like Operation Paperclip or Unit 731. Be damned sure the juice is worth the squeeze.
As for the “tool neutral, usage good” argument, I think of it like Operation Paperclip or Unit 731. Be damned sure the juice is worth the squeeze.
Both are not tools or technology, but Nazis being used, right?
Is it about AI researchers?
Even there, the military/surveillance-AI companies and personnel would be the ones similar to Unit 731, right?Good time to remind everyone: There’s no such thing as Just a Tool
Ai bring controlled collective doesn’t change shit about its insane and damaging water usage.
Does it use that much water? How does it compare to water use by regular datacenters?
And if it is controlled by a collective, they can reduce wastage and use renewable sources, recycle water etc, without having the profit-only main motivation, right?
“What are you worried about? I just use the plagiarism, propaganda, csam and deepfake machine created by technofascists to make political memes.”
Indeed why the technofascists should not own and direct the tech and why the collective should be owning it.
What “collective” owns locally run llms and slop generators?
Who do you think you’re paying for access to the software?
What do you think that software was trained on?
Or are you just trying to justify your use of the slop machine by claiming you’re using it for some noble purpose?
Don’t pay for access to AI. There are plenty of free ones.
No product is free, if you don’t pay anything, you are the product being sold.
You ‘pay’ these companies by providing them with training data for their LLMs / you are the thing they are trained on. You as a user provide an endless supply of metadata they can sell.
Just don’t use the slop bot, it’s literally as easy as that.
You say this on a free social media …
AI isn’t a ‘product’, by the way. It is a technology. You can run it on your own device.
What noble purpose?
Spreading democracy and freedom, fighting authoritarianism, plagiarism etc?
And I am not saying that the collective owns it now. I am saying that it should be under public ownership/control rather than the current scenario.
What noble purpose? Spreading democracy and freedom, fighting authoritarianism, plagiarism etc?
Yes, that noble purpose.
So my questions remain:
What democracy do you think you are spreading by using genAI?
What authoritarianism are you fighting by paying the fascists for access to their slop bot?
What plagiarism are you fighting by using the plagiarism bot?
It isn’t going to be collectively owned because it isn’t made for the collective to own, and locally hosting a version of it isn’t going to make it a tool of the masses.
It’s made to convince tech illiterate ceos and politicians to throw money at it until the techbros selling it can get their companies bailed out by the world governments that they convinced to put it into their mass surveillance and military systems.
Paint.net and GIMP are two prime examples of free image editing software that I’d suggest using instead, because even a poorly drawn image made with a mouse in 10 minutes holds more value (literally, in almost all cases) than anything a slopbot is told to generate.
You can generate AI locally.
Also can we please stop talking about AI in terms of water usage? The amount of total carbon it emits is a much bigger concern.
You trained that AI locally too? With only content you own?
I don’t pay for models in any way so I’m not responsible for the emissions during training. AI companies decided to create these emissions, not me.
I did a bit of research and the full emissions of AI is relatively small compared to other things but still far from negligible. If we take this guardian article at face value the total emissions of AI is 80 million tonnes. Which is about 1.3% of total carbon emissions (about 6 billion tonnes). I did a bit of research and I just thought I’d share.
Yeah, but what if the foreigner is Ed Sheeran and the cookie is the genocide stops?
“He’s going to swipe your cookie”
„Not sure if this is AI”
He, maybe hes just left handed
NEVER SLOP!
He had a serious work accident and couldn’t afford proper surgery, so he’s forced to go to work with an arm sewed back on backward.
And he still doing construction? Isn’t that a OSHA violation? :P
Ableist scum
(/s)
“I can upgrade the thing bro, just trust in me” The result:
This is ai and it’s pretty bad lol
A gun is only as evil as its user
And if 99% if guns were sold by Satan Inc. , would that be enough to call guns evil?
If 99% of guns were sold to angel inc. would you call guns good? If so, then it’s still not something inherent to the guns. If not, then your Devil Inc. Analogy isn’t very good since it’s not at the core of your reason for disliking them.
A gun cannot be evil.
It is like saying a rock is evil. The user, the suppliers, the distributors n all can be evil or not, according to what it is used for.
Tho, guns are potentially dangerous tools, since they are mainly used to take lives or threaten people with its ability of taking lives and can lead to escalation.
So, there should be enough care and awareness on its use and ownership.Yep, pretty much what I was getting at.
Thank you
A rock is a rock. It’s there through natural happenstance and cannot control what a person will do with with it.
A gun is a gun by design. A tool made specifically for the purpose of harming or killing another individual. Often bought and owned by people with fragile egos, or those who believe that have too much to fear, but never own by rational people.
Tell that to the 100+ children that die from unintentional gun accidents every year. It doesn’t require malice to kill someone. Incompetence and negligence do it just fine.
Criminal negligence is a type of evil
A gun is also as stupid as its owner.
No lol. Also the worst example, the weapons industry is so bad, what are you on about?
Significant difference between gun and weapons industry. Political power grows out the barrel of a gun.
The 4 panel is probably AI, but the first panel is originally by Denis Lushch from Australia and was first seen in 2019. I always thought the guy with all the cookies is supposed to be Rupert Murdoch.
Yeah everything ai does is based on work originally by a human lol
So no different than every human does it
It’s based on that, but it clearly has been run through the AI slopinator and fucked up the original image.
to compare against the one the bot zeroxed out:
the construction worker’s left hand is a right hand in the third panel. he may want to see a doctor
Also it can’t decide whether that’s a high vis vest or a bowling league shirt lmao.
Yeah, but I still hope there’s a non-AI version of this somewhere out there, because there’s still issues with consistency, etc.
It’s not an example of AI usage being good, on account of it’s soulless garbage slop with unbalanced pacing, which adds nothing to the original strip that it was stolen from
“unbalanced pacing” ¬_¬
We’re now judging the pacing of image macros
I mean the hard hat turning into a baseball hat shows it’s clearly AI lmao
Half of this website annoys me. AI this, AI that, AI bad
it’s filtered through an american lens – one that prefers to blame the technology rather than ever taking action against the epstein class that wields it to our detriment.
No. There is no world in which LLMs and the resources they devour is worth whatever hypothetical use case it has. Saying this is an “American” thing is fucking frankly disgusting.
it’s a reality in china – the people who control it get to decide.
It doesn’t matter who controls it. What matters is that it is of little value if any to humanity and consumes unfathomable amounts of energy and water to run the data centers that power it. There is no argument that will ever convince me that there is any worthwhile tradeoff there. I don’t give a shit if it’s China doing it, it is still bad.
You’re the one true leftist who knows everything and all AES are bad because they don’t follow your random made up rules, am I getting this right?
Ultras = useless
all AES are bad because they don’t follow your random made up rules, am I getting this right?
What a ridiculous strawman. I do support AES I still think LLMs are bad and not worth the resources they consume fuck off.
Oh in that case are you not interested at all why they have five year plans for technology you simply write off as “bad”?
Think about it. What do they see, that you don’t see?
LLMs and image generator plagiarism machines are bad and being forced into everything. Also it isn’t AI and I wish people would stop using that bullshit buzzword.
Sadly “AI this, AI that” is the entire world rn
It’s so much worse on mastodon lol
Social media has largely hijacked would-be leftist activism and funneled it into futile bullshit like screeching about whether it’s good or bad to use AI for memes
You know it’s slop and you posted it anyway?
Yep.
Better to share it than not. Maybe someone will make a better version and share it.
And then, I can delete this.
Booo
Collective control over AI, directing it for the benefit of the people would be good.
Ai comes at a massive cost that we’re not in any way shape or form able to mitigate or have plans to mitigate in this current moment. I know this is coming as a preemptive defense of China since they’re so heavily invested in it but there’a a lot of convincing to do.
How much is the cost?
I see the issue as capitalist control over the resources a d major contribution by imperialism, where the issues and possible solutions to try are known, but are hindered by capitalist powers.
