There has been outrage after a small town in eastern Germany banned the installation of new Holocaust memorial plaques that mark the last known residence or workplace of Jews and other victims of the genocide.

Crossposted from https://thebrainbin.org/m/[email protected]/t/1945027

A small town in eastern Germany banned the installation of new Holocaust memorial plaques that mark the last known residence or workplace of Jews and other victims of the genocide.

The motion was proposed by the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) and the centre-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU)…

      • EmmiLime@lemmy.ml
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        29 天前

        Stalin killed trillions with his comically sized spoon by eating all the grain of Ukraine

          • davel@lemmy.mlEnglish
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            28 天前

            The 1932–33 famine was not a genocide by any stretch of the imagination, except in the imagination of the Banderite fascists, who coined the term holomodor in the 1980s to evoke comparison to the Holocaust. But they are not comparable, because 1) the famine wasn’t intentional, and 2) more people died per capita in other parts of the Soviet Union than in Ukraine, and in particular more per capita in Russia proper than in Ukraine. The notion started as fascist, anti-communist double genocide propaganda, and you’re still propagating it today, over a generation after the fall of the Soviet Union.

            • modem_down@thebrainbin.orgOP
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              28 天前

              The 1932–33 famine was not a genocide by any stretch of the imagination

              Given that most serious genocide scholars regard the Holodomor as a genocide, you’re simply wrong.

              double genocide

              The double genocide article you posted links to the Holomor denial article, which describes your behaviour:

              ‘Holodomor denial is easily distinguished from serious scholarship, and “generally consists of especially vitriolic anti-Western and anti-Ukrainian tirades,” often accompanied by accusations of foreign influence, Nazi sympathies, or ulterior motives.’

              Blocked. Genocide denial crosses the line.

              • davel@lemmy.mlEnglish
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                28 天前

                Yes, many “serious” scholars in the imperial core regard it as a genocide, but outside of that minority, scholars around the world do not.

                Welcome to Lemmy, your first exposure to voices outside of the capitalist/imperialist echo chamber that most of us had ever been exposed to.

            • BanMeFromPosting@lemmy.ml
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              28 天前

              more people died per capita in other parts of the Soviet Union than in Ukraine,

              I remember seeing this sourced some times, but I haven’t been able to find a good one myself. Would you happen to have one?

              • davel@lemmy.mlEnglish
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                28 天前

                No, not offhand. You might check with Parenti’s, Losurdo’s, or Grover Furr’s works.

          • EmmiLime@lemmy.ml
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            29 天前

            linking to a wikipedia article and calling Holodomor a genocide is fucking pathetic of you. It’s just double genocide theory which is a form of genocide trivialization and undermines the severity that genocide carries

          • Sherad@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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            28 天前

            Look mang you really have been kinda disingenuous and frankly incurious.

            You need to look into the methodology used in the black book of communism, the lengths they went to tack on as many zeroes as possible, the fact that they include German nazi soldier deaths from ww2 as part of the numbers alone - does that really not make you feel like… a little curious as to the angle? Its use as a propaganda piece? Can you be as critical of the millions of deaths attributed to capitalism? Imperialism? Do you levy such criticisms… ever?

            “their evil communist propaganda, our good and noble capitalist truth”

            I do hope you look into the origins of “whataboutism” like the other posters said, if you can stop your knees from jerking for but a moment. Speaking human to human here.

                • modem_down@thebrainbin.orgOP
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                  28 天前

                  Which source is reputable?

                  Why should I list them all for you, when I’ve already linked to the article that does so? Here are just a few:

                  • Bellamy, Alex J. (2012), “Massacres and Morality: Mass Killing in an Age of Civilian Immunity” (PDF), Human Rights Quarterly, 34 (4), The Johns Hopkins University Press: 927‒958, doi:10.1353/hrq.2012.0066, JSTOR 23352235, S2CID 86858244
                  • Bradley, Mark Philip (2017), “Human Rights and Communism”, in Fürst, Juliane; Pons, Silvio; Selden, Mark (eds.), The Cambridge History of Communism: Volume 3, Endgames? Late Communism in Global Perspective, 1968 to the Present, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 978-1-108-50935-0.
                  • Karlsson, Klas-Göran; Schoenhals, Michael (2008), Crimes against humanity under communist regimes – Research review, Forum for Living History, ISBN 978-91-977487-2-8.
                  • Valentino, Benjamin (2005). Final Solutions: Mass Killing and Genocide in the Twentieth Century. Cornell University Press. ISBN 9780801472732.

                  Calling unborn Nazis victims of the soviet union is laughable at best.

                  Calling an unborn person a Nazi is about as offensive as it gets. Blocked.

                  • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml
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                    28 天前

                    I dunno if you know this, but the black book of communism features unborn Nazi Germans as victims of communism, it’s fine that you’ve blocked me, I’m sure you’ll learn this along your journey, but the fact that you just copy paste Wikipedia sources and then run away is very funny, lmao.

                • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml
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                  28 天前

                  “Unborn Nazis” is literally what the black book of communism is calling victims of communism, you should do some more research before you remove comments, mod.