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pretty telling that first reation of some here can be summed with: what is really white?
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Dead ass what would happen, gingers would become the new “blacks”
Hair color
First half of the 20th century, they talked about hair colour like it was three extra genders.
My hair color certainly got me some nicknames when I was younger, bordering on slurs.
You’d think it would be hair color which is easier to spot at a distance, with the familiar “brighter is better” rule placing the blond[e]s on top.
Eye and hair.
Source: grew up in a very white country.
What’s the go if you have black hair but super pale eyes in that kind of system?
Idk, I personally happen to look like a nazi propaganda poster, so I’ve literally never been discriminated against based on appearance anywhere I’ve ever lived. I haven’t spent much time in China/Japan, though.
Too easy to change.
and gingers at the bottom
I’m not so sure, ginger women are often spectacularly attractive. Ginger men, though? Worth less than dirt. Their only value is the chance to make ginger girls.
(disclaimer: I hated writing that)
oh, hello there fellow male ginger
It was deleted by reddit. It’s probably a good idea to upload i.redd.it images somewhere else before posting here.
It was still on reddit for me. I uploaded it just in case: People talk about country ban for some reddit post
It will be skin colour again, but limited to a tighter spectrum.
People really forget that racism against Italians and Irish was a thing.
Poor Irish folk. I love the Irish. And while I’ve plenty of opportunity to watch blazing saddles it just doesn’t appeal to me. Is it wrong of me to defend the Irish in light of my ignorance of this humorous show?
I was going to say, some pasty motherfuckers who can’t be exposed to the sun for 15 minutes without going to the hospital are going to say they’re the superior people.
Nah, as such a pasty motherfucker, other white people expect you to tan. I grew up being teased for my paleness and my neighbor offered to let me use her tanning bed. (I declined because I burn but don’t tan).
My public school system was 100% white until my senior year of high school when a black family sent their kids to kindergarten.
They tried, but everyone supported Macklemore.
It’ll just be the intra-European racism that already exists, which doesn’t particularly follow skin color.
Germanic, Celtic, Slavic, Mediterranean, etc… Each with their own subdivisions ready to go if the others were wiped out.
As a man from that little village here, fuck those cunts from the village over there! Their fields are full of hamsters and their wheat smells of elderberries.
mediterreans would be darker skin, so they are the first targets. then it goes to anti-semitism in the end.
Historically, no. In Germanic regions it’s first Jews, then Slavs, then Celts, then Mediterraneans. Mediterraneans get credit for the Reniassance, Greco-Roman civilization and Christianity.
What do you do? Well, not dance, for one.
Historically white was based on religion.
Only white people? Probably hang myself or something.
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Yeah, “Black as Irish” was an actual phrase.
You spend a lot of time on reddit huh?
Imagine defending a reddit repost bot :).
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I did no such thing
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They don’t seem like a bot. Rather someone who still browses reddit and decides to share some things here (without direct linking). I see no problem in sharing a few things a day.
They’re a bot.
Maybe they are, I haven’t done a deep investigation, but to what end? What do they have to gain? Moreover, the content gets appreciated by users here who are ostensibly not bots.
I enjoyed some posts and would not know they were copied from reddit without you. It’s not like they even originated from there. Plus as far as I know there’s no direct linking. What’s the harm?
You and both have invested a lot of time in this space over the last few years: fedi/threadiverse is still so small yet gaining new users all the time. Don’t you think having more content uploaded here that people genuinely engage with is an overall good thing?
I get it, I gave up looking over there when they killed my apps. I’m happier (and less addicted) here than I was before. But still, I know there are probably some big things I miss out on by getting my fix from more obscure sides of the net. Someone willing to wade through and find gems in the mess is someone that’s valuable to have here.
Think of [email protected]
It’s a curation.
You might enjoy mindless upvoting content that was mindlessly reposted but not everyone does.
That’s a fair point.
I just think it’s a lot of effort. If it’s worth it to you then ignore me.
I just can’t personally imagine spending the required time on reddit.
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There’s still gender, age, political affiliation, class/income level, and the big one, religion, for us to fight, separate, and subjugate over. We don’t need eye or hair color, too.
Except fascists would literally do that.
white people only
Well… didn’t expect to read this within my lifetime outside of historical documents
“White” is a relatively modern concept, and one that can be quite nebulous. I see some people call Bernie Sanders white, but I also see white nationalists who dont consider Jews white. Back when the British were committing a genocicde against the Irish and driving millions of Catholic refugees into a predominantly Protestant America they weren’t considered white. Some Nazis considered Japanese people “honorary whites”. People around the Mediterranean are a whole mixed bag- Italians, Greeks, and Spaniards have all been treated as white or non-white at times. Racists still debate whether Cleopatra and other Coptic Egyptians should count as “white” or not.
And of course Europeans have been making up divisions and killing each other over it for centuries. The very concepts of “Italy” and “France” and “Germany” and “Spain” and the like are pnky a few generations old.
It’s not just “white” people though. The Japanese have a history of committing atrocities against their neighbors in Korea and China. Chinese history is largely the story of the Han people conquering the nations around them, and they are still committing genocide against groups like the Uyghurs and Tibetans today. Sudan had the genocide of the Darfuri in the early 2000’s. The Rohingya genocide in Myanmar is still ongoing. We could go on and on.
The idea that only “white” people are racist is, itself, a racist idea.
I’m mixed race and it’s disturbing how true this is. One of the weird things about being mixed race is that people feel comfortable telling me about their racial views.
There are a bunch of racial and ethnic prejudices that white people (particularly white Americans) don’t even know exist.
One funny thing is that many forms of racism focus don’t focus on skin color and instead focus on other arbitrary markers; ear lobes, noses, hair patterns.
Coptic Egyptians
But Cleopatra was not a Coptic Egyptian.
I agree every big community of people can be a different level of racist to someone, and I guess if you think of it like a racist food pyramid, then ‘whites’ are at the top of that pyramid.
Yes, they are generally better at everything. /s
If you think white US Americans are somehow the only ones capable of racism talk to an Iranian about their feelings toward their neighbors. Or better about minorities in their own country. You will be enjoying an absolutely spectacular history and cultural lession on why Iranians are morally, genetically and culturally superior. Just ask something innocent like “What do you think about arabs?”
White racists dream of being even half as racist as the average Persian.
I don’t know there are other ethnicity that are pretty good at it. All I can say with certainty is that humans are very good at it. Never seen another animal care about anothers colour so much. Could you imagine if other animals separated by color it would be ridiculous.
Thank you for this comment, I was thinking the exact same thing.
The first child to arrive in Elliott’s classroom on the day following Martin Luther King, Jr.'s assassination asked, in reference to the incident, “Why’d they shoot that King?” After the rest of the class arrived, Elliott asked them how they thought it would feel to be a black boy or girl. She suggested to the class it would be hard for them to understand discrimination without experiencing it themselves and then asked the children if they would like to find out. The children agreed. She decided to base the exercise on eye color rather than skin color to show the children what racial segregation would be like.
Initially, there was resistance among the students in the minority group to the idea that blue-eyed children were better than brown-eyed children. To counter this, Elliott led the children to believe the false premise that melanin was linked to their higher intelligence and learning ability. Shortly thereafter, the initial resistance fell away. Those who were deemed “superior” became arrogant, bossy, and otherwise unpleasant to their “inferior” classmates. Their grades on simple tests improved, and they completed mathematical and reading tasks that had seemed outside their ability before. The “inferior” classmates also transformed – into timid and subservient children who scored more poorly on tests, and even during recess isolated themselves, including those who had previously been dominant in the class. These children’s academic performance suffered, even with tasks that had been simple before.
The next Monday, Elliott reversed the exercise, making the brown-eyed children superior. While the brown-eyed children did taunt the blue-eyed children in ways similar to what had occurred the previous day, Elliott reports it was much less intense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Elliott#First_exercise_involving_eye_color
Morally very dubious test, but otherwise illustrates the problem quite clearly.
