I’ve heard a lot about AirVPN, but it doesn’t have an app on Fdroid or anything. Yes you can download it directly from their site, but that is a little cumbersome.
Another option I’m considering is Windscribe.One major knock against it (and the same thing for AirVPN) is that htere is no tutorial available for installing the wireguard version on openwrt.
I really don’t know enough about these. Windscribe has been sort of tested in court (again that was in Greece, and they don’t have the same might of an authoritarian state as the US or some place), so that’s a plus.
I don’t know, I’m so confused that it sort of makes sense to stick with Mullvad at times.
Ivpn, Ovpn, Azire VPN, VP.net are serious alternatives. For more control, build your own VPN (or directly via Njalla, 1984…). For more encryption, full post-quantum VPN might be an option. Most of all, never forget that any VPN is a potential honeypot. VPN are necessary to limit the impact of surveillance capitalism (i’m not an Ads man !), or to watch other countries streaming series. Dont expect beeing anonymous (advanced fingerprinting, and in some cases Hénéssay, do not care about your super VPN). Of course, staying away from free VPN is a sign of good prudence.
Your latter point is something I’ve been considering for a while; VPN really won’t protect me if a 3 letter agency is after me.
It is merely an attempt to obscure myself from ISP and it’s tracking.
So even though I’m not fully sold on Windscribe, that’s why I’m kind of leaning towards it.
What’s Henessay? An online search and the top hits aren’t what I think you’re referring to.
I’m in the same boat. I’m giving Mozilla VPN a try now that I’m in the last couple of weeks of my Mullvad subscription. They only have subscription options through the Play store or App store, which is not ideal, but I’m willing to compromise a little to support Mozilla.
“Mozilla VPN is powered by Mullvad. While they use Mullvad servers the software used is mostly their own.”
https://embed.kumu.io/9ced55e897e74fd807be51990b26b415#vpn-company-relationships/mozilla-vpn
Thank you. I didn’t know this. Back to searching again, I guess.
Mozilla vpn used to be a rebrand of mullvad. Might still be.
Wanted to say I will move to ivpn when mullvad runs out, but seems like the whole comment section already agrees on airvpn and ivpn
I switched to Xeovo, works great so far. Winscribe was a no after this: https://x.com/Windscribe/status/1991176084662964688
Posts a twitter link on a thread about mullvad supporting nazis, gets likes
I miss irony and satire.
Please don’t make us visit twitter. Windscribe makes some transphobic statement in that tweet.
At the time of writing XCancel was offline following X’s cease and desist. Now it’s back again: https://xcancel.com/windscribecom/status/1991176084662964688
I know you mentioned AirVPN only having an app on their website, but you can use it with the wireguard client (you just have to make the conf file names short enough and remove special characters to import them). This is how I personally use AirVPN on Android.
I tried adding their client via Obtanium, it didn’t work.
But man, that client looks so outdated. It looks like a kid’s idea of a website.
I made my own Gitlab repo for that reason. It automatically fetches the apk when a new version is published on AirVPN website. You can add it to Obtainium, it works. https://gitlab.com/Ofboir/EddieAndroid
I don’t use AirVPN’s client, to be clear. I use Wireguard’s android app, and for desktop, I use wireguard as well. There’s no need for their client.
That’s how I do it. I use WG Tunnel (on FDroid), make the conf on the website, rename it to something short (‘airvpn’ for example) and import it. I only connect to one server though (Azelfafage), so I have no clue how it behaves with multiple exit nodes…
Hope this helps OP!
iVPN, PrivadoVPN, Windscribe and ProtonVPN are generally considered leaders in the space IIRC.
airvpn and ivpn appear to be the only ethical ones.
Agreed. These are the only real options at present.
I really want people to tell me about other options, neither airvpn or ivpn seem awesome for the southern hemisphere and linux, for the majority of users they look like the best choices though. It is a dodgy industry.
Looking up vpns is a pain in the butt due to how manipulated 99% of sites about them are, plus the usual fan blah blah
I use ivpn on my Linux computer and found it very easy to use.
There was some weird arse package in it ‘npm’ that failed while trying to install ivpn, looking it up at the time said it was suspect (maybe true or not)
End of the day they did not have servers where I needed them (a southern hemisphere problem)
They were very quick to reply and appeared genuine with their customer supportthough.
Air is my go to piracy vpn. Their app is garbage, use the config file generator instead. Air is my go to piracy VPN because it is a piracy vpn service. I would not use them as a shield from any sort of serious threat.
I use windscribe for stuff that doesn’t matter like bypassing geoblocks. I don’t trust them, their abilities or my ability to limit my own exposure to their malice, compliance or incompetence. It’s a confusing service.
People are suggesting ivpn and I have used it. It’s a downgrade from mullvad in every way but it might be safe. I can’t say because it hasn’t been tested in the same way.
I use mullvad when it actually matters. It’s really hard to screw up and they have the best app of any vpn service I’ve ever used.
There are a lot of people saying why they would want to move away from mullvad, why do you? What devices and operating systems do you use it on? How do you pay?
I’ve heard a lot about AirVPN, but it doesn’t have an app on Fdroid or anything. Yes you can download it directly from their site, but that is a little cumbersome.
Consider using Obtainium. It might be a little cumbersome to get it set up, but once you do, Obtainium will handle checking for and installing updates whenever they are released.
Install Obtainium from GitHub or F-Droid. Then you can add Eddie (the AirVPN client app) by using the install button on this page:
https://apps.obtainium.imranr.dev/apps?categoryMode=inclusive&category=vpn&sort=popular&q=EddieI’ll give that link a shot. I installed Obtanium for the first time, and tried adding their installation link (maybe not that one, I don’t remember what I tried adding), but I couldn’t get it to wokr.
But maaaan, their android client looks so amateurish. I mean it’s fine as long as it works, but as an ad for your company…this isn’t it.
All the UI/UX for AirVPN looks pretty bad. The website just looks… off, design-wise. But yeah, as long as the VPN works as intended…
Obtainium is annoying a lot though, its probably not a fault of theirs necessarily but there is so often failure due to locating an installable build from a repo link
What? It fails because it locates an app to install?
Yeah I would try to install from their git as much as possible but it is very inconsistent. Nothing found or no installable build found, so have to hope they are on fdroid.
Why should I migrate from a trusted vendor?
The recent issue with one of Mullvad’s founders/co-owners is very well known.
Thanks. Ironically, can’t see it since lemmy.zip uses Cloudflare, which uses broken bot captcha which blocks Mullvad tunnels.
Co-founder donated huge sums to extreme right party.
I am aware of https://mullvad.net/en/blog/donation-controversy and https://dberntsson.info/2026/07/20/orebropartiet/ and
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extreme right wing moniker seems a smear campaign against Örebro
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the company has nothing to do with private affairs of the founder
This whole campaign smells of something intelligence services would do if they’re facing a problem they can’t make go away another way. And it is actually working because of people like you, who amplify this attack.
They are nationalist racists trying to cloak themselves with populist leftist ideas. This is the leader of that party:
https://www.friatider.se/markus-allard-om-andra-generationens-invandrare-de-ska-ocksa-ut
Örebro Party leader Markus Allard goes to the election on expulsions. He opens to withdraw citizenship and also expel second generation of immigrants – even if they were born in Sweden.
“I’m prepared to cross corpses,” he said.One suggestion that he has is that citizenship and permanent residence permits can be torn up – with reference to “Sweden is the country of Swedes”.
In a section of Yoshi’s Podcast, Allard develops his view on expulsions and explains that he prepared to “go over corpses” to bring home unwanted immigrants. The host notes that there will be no beautiful sight when, for example, immigrant mothers who have been on maternity leave for 15 years are to be deported together with their children. “It’s not going to be pretty to send these people home,” he said. Markus Allard agrees, but says: I think you can handle that optics. Even the children will need to be deported, he explains.
He further explains that many of the problems relate to second-generation immigrants. They are going out too. Even if they were born in Sweden, because they have no natural connection to Sweden. They are not Swedes. They have not become Swedes. It says Sweden in the passport, but they have not been interested in becoming part of Sweden. There’s a difference. It’s a qualitative difference," Allard said
Remember; the Nazi’s did the same thing by strategically calling their party the National Socialist German Workers’ Party, despite them not being socialist nor a working class party. This was chosen because Socialism was gaining popularity, and thus the Nazi’s thought it would help their chances of getting votes and public support.
We know where you stand.
the company has nothing to do with private affairs of the founder
They give him money. He uses that money for bad.
It definitely is an extreme right party, and the founder’s riches are a direct result of the company’s success.
I am going to look into the party, and simply because I might move to rural Sweden when I retire. But that’s entirely othogonal to Mullvad.
Oh, so you can join it huh?
So you are making that speculation purely on vibes without any sort of backing information?
So you are attacking my character rather than correcting me? That doesn’t work. Please provide your backing information.
Wait what lmao? Do you know how claiming things work? You made a claim now back it up. I don’t have to prove the opposite, that’s not how any of this works.
Nope, looking at that post, it looks like a far right party blaming poor people and PMC instead of their real enemies (the ruling class internally and the United States externally). The founder describes themselves as a libertarian anarchist and supports a far right party, mega shocker there, but pretending it’s a smear is false. Just be honest and say you don’t care if you don’t care, don’t try and fool those of us who suffer from the effects of fascism that this isn’t a fascist movement.
I am getting tired of everyone being called fascist. Because if everybody is a fascist, then nobody is.
I’m basing my choice on technology and personal recommendation of people I trust who know the owners.
All this loud thread just confirms this is an attack based on spurious reasons.
What an absolutely insane take. I’m so sorry calling this awful person out is just forcing you into fascism. It really is a shame you have autonomy over your own actions and you just have to go along with it.
Have you considered being against fascism?
You could at least claim to be a decent person then, doesn’t that sound like a good thing?
I am. Fascists killed 27 millions of my former citizens, including my grandfather. Fascists are still murdering people by the hundred thousand per year in Europe.
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I’m looking to switch to Windscribe.
IVPN is very good imo, I’m using it, and I love it
if you’re leaving mullvad for political reasons windscribe isn’t a great alternative
i’ve used IVPN a bit, it’s alright
airvpn can be used with the default wireguard app, or with WG Tunnel if you insist on something from f droid
Is it the fact that they put out (a somewhat tasteless) AI ad?
In the grand scheme of things and with everything else going on, that seems pretty tame.
windscribe is very ai, they also have a controversial history that would be worth looking up if you are considering them (a privacy issue, and right wing leanings from memory)
Handy weird link:
https://embed.kumu.io/9ced55e897e74fd807be51990b26b415#vpn-company-relationships
So someoone else provided that link; and maybe I’m reading it wrong but Windscribe is just linked to a copmany called Control D.
They seem to encrypt DNS filtering and stuff (haven’t looked into it), but that is a good thing right?
What am I missing with this link and why are so many people linking it
I have never seen anyone else link that. I link it because it is one of very few sites that appears to give any decent insight into vpns, plus spiders are hella cool :/
This is another one, but only when you “click on any row to compare up to 4 vpns” and it goes into detail
I interacted with windscribe as a customer, on reddit, and via their ai customer service a while ago. I won’t be going that way again.
So going back to that map: it doesn’t show anything shady or supsicious on Windscribe’s part except for that relationship with Control D. What am I missing there?
Yeah I am familiar with tech lore’s site (it looks a lot worse now to be honest), that’s how I became aware of Windscribe as an option.
But again, if you go through their categories Windscribe comes off as pretty good and comparable to Mullvad.
What am I missing from techlore’s site that says you shouldn’t use Windscribe?
If you have personal anecdotes, please feel free to share, I would appreciate that feedback.
I never suggested that the techlore site I posted had anything to do with windscribe, it was posted (as mentioned) due to it being one of very, very, very few sites about vpn’s that appear to be not completely full of shit
If you want a vpn owned by aiholes, windscribe and proton are 2 obvious choices.
I mean you’re constantly warning against windscribe, and that could very well be justified, but you have yet to explain it.
I’ve asked you several times, and all you’re saying is that windscribe is bad. And providing resources that don’t really point to it.
OpenVPN on a VPS from Njalla paid for in Monero
I’m not being silly (other than that I’m a freakin’ tinfoil hat compared to most people)
This is my actual setup.
Why OpenVPN and not something like wg out of interest?
Because I set it up like 5 ywars ago as a pandemic project and that was the top option from my searches
Depends on your reason for using a VPN. Presumably your Njalla VPS has a static IP address. I like being able to rotate servers if one is being blocked by a given service (ie YouTube).
Seconding electric nan’s comment. There is a valid use case for that model IMO, but it also ties your identity to a different fixed IP. Maybe if you were PERFECT about opsec it wouldn’t tie to your ID, but in practice nobody is going to be. That’s nearly impossible in today’s tracking centric world. So data brokers will learn user X has IP Y, nobody else uses that IP, so other connections from IP Y are probably user X too.
There’s a benefit to sharing an IP with many other ppl and rotating the IP around. There are drawbacks too ofc.
I’ve been using IVPN for a few months and I’m happy with it. Was on mullvad before.
