I get that some people have business waiting at the pickup and wanting to look professional, but why everybody else?
I don’t dress formally, but I always try to put effort into my outfit. Why not look good ig I have the choice?
I’d say… why not?
For me, comfort, but also I’m usually flying for some kind of vacation where formal apparel doesn’t make sense, like snowboarding or hiking.
One reason among several is tradition. Air travel used to be the domain of the wealthy, at a time when the wealthy seldom left the house in super-casual or working-class attire.
My company was very old school and had a dress code for all stupid situations, including travel on business. Also, fly in and fly out meetings are a thing. In the 90’s they wouldn’t let you sit in first class - before points aligned status were a thing, travel enough and you would get bumped up often when in a suit over others.
Gotta be classy sometimes yk
I wore suits and ties for many years, and now that I’m retired, I’ll never wear another tie again.
Most days, I wear loose cotton pants, a t-shirt, and maybe an open shirt over that. And sneakers. Probably not even socks. If they don’t like it, Fuck’em, I really don’t care.
I’ll put on big boy pants and a nice shirt if we’re going out for Christmas dinner, and I’ll wear socks, but it’s still sneakers. And no tie, ever.
They probably dress nicely most of the time.
I always put on pants when I go out. It’s the decent thing to do
But, not a shirt, right? God, it’s so hot right now. I just want my pits to air out a bit.
Will definitely try this next time
Don’t bother. I tried it. 1 star.
By dressing nicely you show respect for other people.
I feel like in Italy they still kept that mindset and it shows by how people are dressed in the street. Judging by the comments it’s not so common to think that way any more.
How? If I were meeting with someone in a formal setting, sure. If I’m flying somewhere after work just to go straight to my hotel, I’m not formally interacting with anyone where being dressed up makes a difference.
I’m don’t see how it’s any more respectful for anyone else I’m walking by in an airport terminal if I’m wearing a suit and tie vs sweatpants and a hoodie.
Does your statement imply that it’s disrespectful to not dress up, or is putting on informal clothes kind of the baseline and dressing up is extra?
I’m not talking about wearing a suit. I’m talking about being cleaned and well groomed, showing that you care about your appearance.
Gotcha. I think the OP was specifically about being dressed formally, so that’s why I was asking.
Other than smelling bad, why does it matter if I’m well groomed to passerbys or that I care about my appearance?
Again, I’m talking about potentially flight attendants, the people at the gate check, etc. we are ships passing in the night, they are there to make sure I’m me, and I’m just passing by. I agree that if you wear something that is offensive, like swear words or images that maybe considered obscene, that’s not ok almost anywhere imo. But if I wear unbranded sweatpants and a hoodie, how would that make me being disrespectful? I’m not there for any person. I’m not there to win favor. They are there to do there job which is to check me in or provide a service, or as far as random passerbys, we are just sharing a space.
So do you believe that it’s disrespectful to dress down or is dressing up just more respectful in your opinion?
Maybe that’s considered so in your (sub)culture, but it’s not a universal truth. That sounds like something a WASP boomer would say.
WASP boomer
Wide ass, soaking pussy?
Thank you!
Btw, remember the childish drama because Zelensky didn’t have a tie in the oval office?
Don’t look to this administration for any examples of the right thing to do.
I’ve never heard of that and I’m not sure I would agree.
Wearing a shirt and nice trouser helps my business traveller persona dont want to explain an immigration officer why I wear work clothe and steel toe booth for a business meeting.
Anyway, I have a business meeting, need a suit and will be back the next day, so I am rather wearing my business suit, rather than taking a checked in luggage
Because I come from a family of pilots and the free F&F tickets came with the stipulation that we dressed very nice. I grew up with that and the habit stuck.
Why don’t you wrap yourself in a bag to go shopping? There is no reason to look nice.
Human bias. People tend to treat you favorably when you dress a bit nicely. You don’t have to over-do it, but you also don’t want to appear “rough”. I’ve travelled both ways, and can tell you for a fact, you get hassled more if you look like you just rolled out of bed, as opposed to someone who’s at least trying to look presentable.
When I fly long distance I always make the effort to go in the (plane) bathroom and freshen up, brush my hair etc before I get there because I feel I get less hassle from immigration etc when in looking fresh as opposed to when I’m a red-eyed mess.
Despite the fact it should be perfectly expected for people to look like shit after a long-haul flight.
As you say, It’s just human bias.
You nailed it. When I wear a T-shirt and have my tattoos visible, security treat me like shit and I always get pulled aside for extra checks and drug swipes. If I wear a nice suit, I get smiles and no hassle.
It’s funny because in my country, the airport security would prefer you to wear light clothes so it doesn’t mess with their metal detectors. If you wear a formal dress with coats, belts, etc., then it makes their work harder and unless you are Muslim or Sikh they will probably ask you to remove the extra clothes.
Isn’t strange, that not to be pulled aside for extra checks me, as woman, I have to look bad,not to be interesting for security, opening luggage ect, where males can check. If I come with nice dress and makeup, hair done, I am wwwaaaayyy likeli going to be stopped for extra check. Even if later female officer comes to check if I am bot bringing anything, males will stand and watch me during … so, bunny tail, oversized t-shirt and something sloppy usually doesn’t attract their attention.
If I come with nice dress and makeup
I can’t help but wonder: a test scenario missing here is what if you wear a boring ‘professional’ suit and hairdo like men do.
Of course, a case of a dude in a dress also remains to be checked.
Or a dude in more flamboyant menswear that isn’t professional, but is definitely nicer
Look good feel good, switch to the PJs in business class…
at the airport you also have higher chances to meet people from different countries and cultures with different standards for what is casual clothing. A fancy dress for an American is an outfit to go at the grocery store for an Italian or a French
I know it’s just an example but French and Italian people don’t dress much different than Americans unless you’re in the center of Paris and maybe Rome.
Most Italian women I know would have a panic attack if they went out with a tracksuit or a pajama like Americans do. That’s stuff that only happens in nightmares and if you’re 20 in a slum outside of Milan. Anyway Rome is not considered particularly fashionable in Italy. You find the highest attention for this stuff in most cities in the North, with Milan being the center of the fashion industry and smaller towns being more bougie, and then in the South with the “show off the bling bling” culture more common throughout the Mediterranean. In the North, the minimum is to dress like for a fashion show, in the South the minimum is to dress like for a wedding. In the center they care less.
The fancy dress in Italy or France is what Eastern europeans wear to go at the grocery store… hahahah Albanians and balcans too😅
True, but they are going to wear it with sneakers.
In IT and Fr you mean.
