Full title: 92% of American adults aren’t going to a doctor because they cannot afford it. The health insurance industry must be dissolved & all of its executives criminally prosecuted for murder, conspiracy, and treason.
also some doctors are jaded asf, they ignore/balk if you symptoms at the time doesnt seem severe enough, if they see a couple times in a row they become frustrated and annoyed with you.
I want a doctor that became a doctor because they wanted to help people, and not because of the money and/or their parents riding their ass to become one. Also they graduated with straight As. Nobody wants the doctor that barely passed with Ds.
Count me as one. I can’t be bothered to take the time off or pay for a diagnostic procedure. If it found something, I’d be extra fucked anyway. Why bother?
Can we please gets some socialism up in this bitch already?!
They will never give it to you.
You will have to take it by force.
Actually the Luigi way. Trust me a couple or 10 dead easy to put some strain. They’re not in fear of their mortality.
You should read about the birth of fascism in Italy
If facism is fuck the rich no one would complain about facism. But clearly its not.
I’ll keep it in mind not to try to rebuild the Roman empire while I advocate for extreme social reform.
Which has nothing to do with this
If you followed my advice you’d realize it does
Fascism in Italy had a lot more to do with nationalism than leftism, ultimately it wasn’t really a leftist movement at all. I’m not sure if you’re aware of the current state of the US but we already have an ethno-nationalism problem here, and it’s exactly the thing we’re trying to fight against.
Ok since y’all want to pick fights without trying to understand: fascism was a reaction to the growing leftist movements. It’s called reactionism because that’s what it does. Killing a few assholes won’t solve anything except give rise to some variation of this.
The foundation for change like this is a cultural shift, otherwise all you’ll get is some more repression.
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HA! What a load of shit that all was.
Now it is just some weird brand of freedomtm mixed with warm ideas of misplaced superiority.
Don’t forget the racism and refusal to acknowledge that 'Murica was founded in genocide
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It was to combat English, not tyranny.
They also have the biggest and most well equipped military in the world. I dont see it going well for the average citizen there. You’re going to need a LOT of help for any type of resistance too. I don’t think the average american has access to things like tanks or armored vehicles either. Maybe drone warfare would happen? Not a good outlook.
Now if you could somehow convince them all to stop working and make the economy come to a halt, that might make the elite class worried and be forced into reaching a resolution without violence. Doubt it could ever be that easy or simple though, and is just a pipe dream at this point. Americans might be screwed forever if they can’t work together or agree on anything at all.
The Iranians fucked up that big equipped military.
Is this true? How do people vote for parties that don’t change it?
They don’t have preferential voting in the US so they’re effectively limited to two parties
Way worse, they are limited to two parties with the electoral collage system. Not just effectively but in law and policy.
Its not a functioning democracy.
How is that true when there’s a libertarian party that gets votes?
Getting votes and getting power are not the same thing. There is no path to president for any party outside of rebpublican or democrats. The electoral college of the states stops any 3rd party from holding any power at a federal level. The last time there was even a chance was the bull moose party and even Teddy at the hight of his popularity could not overcome the two party system back then, and they have since tightened the system down.
I’m gonna need you to point out very specifically what law prevents the libertarians from gaining power and presidency if they get enough votes. I don’t see how the electoral college stops them, or any third party, gaining power with enough votes
There isn’t one, just a lot of little rules that add up.
Such as?
But if 92% are seriously affected I would assume that some people could found a single topic party and that they would be elected immediately.
Oh this is just one of many issues for which the public disagrees with the politicians. They do not work for us in the slightest. They work for the rich. This has been a known fact for decades. Even the supposedly good politicians capitulate for unity and soften “eat the rich” to “tax the rich”.
Now they’re just seeing how hard they can push before people fight back. With any luck, they’re just as stupid as the voting public.
I think you’ll find a major asterisk on that 92% stat if looking hard enough
Which parties change it?
My guess is the 3rd one, or maybe 4th or 5th… Oh yeah…
Many are convinced you can’t have freedom and an affordable doctor at the same time. Americans are subjected to extraordinary levels of propaganda.
I don’t think the freedom part is accurate, but the propaganda certainly is. The news tells them what to think and they don’t try further. They are convinced the United States has the best healthcare in the world, so nice, it cannot be put into a more affordable model without becoming unusably bad. They believe the Magic Market has created the absolute best and cheapest option out there, and the government can only mess that up. Individually, to those who use it, you almost always get complaints as we find ways to make it MORE inaccessible and MORE expensive (eg, concierge doctors), but even those people believe this is the best and cheapest way to do it. They themselves just got unlucky for their personal and not unique situation. The news told them so.
Propaganda has some people convinced that universal healthcare means having to wait for weeks for a medical appointment, and also that even that (made up) problem is worse than not being able to afford to go to the doctor at all
Meanwhile, even if you can afford it, you have to wait for weeks for an appointment under the current system anyway.
dont you months or years, even in places with “low cost or free” it isnt that long. in the states some healthcare providers have weeks or months out for an appointment.
Where I am in Canada we do have problems with wait times, and many people can’t find a family doctor. But it wasn’t always like this. Successive Conservative provincial governments have cut healthcare funding again and again, trying to force people into private for-profit healthcare. It’s the same story in the UK: public healthcare has been undermined by every government since Thatcher’s in the 1980s, and the NHS is not what it was.
Both are still better than the US system though, even after all the cuts. I usually have to wait about 2 weeks to see my doctor unless it’s an emergency. Emergencies can mean an hours-long wait at the hospital. I was recently admitted after an emergency and needed surgery and follow-up examinations. I’ve had an MRI, EKG, ECG, and a whole bunch of other tests with specialists, and more surgery. The care has been very thorough and the doctors excellent, and I have not had to worry once about costs.
Don’t let anyone ever try to tell you that we don’t have massive wait time issues in the US. We do.
The real propaganda is getting those people to somehow forget that’s already how it fucking works in the US
For roughly 40 years now, no party has been all that serous about changing it?
Nah, I disagree. The idea of anything medical being operated or owned by private institutions is absurd in and of itself obviously anything created from that situation is going to be awful and attract the worst of us. There was never any situation where it could work.
“shocking”? I feel like anyone living here could tell you this 💀
Yes, not “shocking” at all when literally everyone you know is doing this…
Edit: with the exception of Boomers on Medicare.
For me, I think it’s more the unpleasantness of being ripped off than affordability. It’s such a fucking scam.
What’s shocking is our inaction.
The survey that the article is based on seems pretty fishy to me. It’s conducted by some financial services company that is mostly involved in selling financial products, not doing research. The methodology section is pretty threadbare and they don’t provide the survey data itself.
The figures are also way out of line with more reputable research organizations like the KFF which estimates that 17% of Americans delay or avoid healthcare due cost.
Is 17% still really high and an unethical travesty in the wealthiest country on earth? Yeah. But there’s no way that 92% of people are skipping the doctor due to cost. Just as an example, the top quintile of earners in the US make more than 300k per year. I doubt that anyone in that group in delaying or avoiding healthcare due to costs and yet the survey would mean that a good chunk of them are.
I guess there’s also different levels of “skipping”. If I was an American, I’d be skipping it unless I’m deathly suffering, whereas here I’d go if it’s sufficiently debilitating.
or people also s kipping because thier doctors are doing the bare minimum, or half assed with an appointment, and then becoming annoyed with them, and the patients wait it out if thier symptoms improved, because going to doc would result in the same lame thing.
There’s no way it’s only 17%. The percentage of uninsured was estimated over 8% in 2024, before insurance premiums skyrocketed and Republicans voting to kick millions off of Medicaid.
isnt MEHMET oz/RFK JR, trying to get medicaid/care to only apply if the patient/enrolle is working 80hrs/month(this automatically puts people over the medicaid limit already by default for most states)
I don’t know any specifics other than they’re trying to make sure health care costs go up until only the wealthy can ever get medical assistance, that the poor can’t get any kind of help with affording those costs, and that as many lower income babies as possible die from diseases we can easily vaccinate against as possible.
And to make sure there’s no such thing as gender affirming care for trans folks, so that Republicans can feel safe raping whatever child or adult they pick out without having to worry it might make them gay.
The survey showed that over nine in ten (92%) of insured respondents had delayed or avoided medical care because of concern about cost.
But the methodology seems wonky indeed, 1507 should be a decent sample size for statistical purposes. But half of the respondents are self-employed and only 1% is unemployed, which explains the “average out of pocket per income level” section, flying all over the place.
But 92% of insured, having delayed medical care is a massive finding.
Although the methodology makes one raise eyebrows, for how they’re able to include income brackets of “0$”, as that at most seems to be 15 respondents.
Addition, at a second look they claim .5% are in the no income bracket. Which is 7/8 respondents. Why would they even include that section then?
Exactly. There was an article on here that said that self check out saved grocery stores 300 billion dollars a year when total revenue for the entire grocery industry is a trillion dollars.
This sub needs significantly better fact checking and moderation. This is obviously a nonsense article with a nonsense number with a % sign after it.
Awww we have abundance? The world is always getting better? Science is so cool? We can do so much more?
Who’s we? I had to stitch an injury up with a sewing kit last week. I didn’t get antibiotics. Half my friends don’t get to sleep in houses.
Brits love to complain about the NHS, and rightly. After 14 years of right wing governments underfunding it it’s on it’s knees.
However if someone tried to replace it with an American style system we’d make the way the French protest look tame.
Sorry but I doubt it. Brits are really not good at standing up for themselves. They are replacing it with an American style system, just a little bit at a time. In the last 30 years it’s come about half way, and it might take another couple decades to really finish the job, but I think it’s likely they’ll succeed in the end.
Just waiting for that one really charismatic Tori to come out and say the NHS is the problem. Thatcher 2 is gonna be hilarious
[In the voice of Mr. Perfect Cell]
So…um… What are you going to do to them?
No you won’t. You’d take it like we did.
The health insurance industry must be dissolved & all of its executives criminally prosecuted for murder, conspiracy, and treason.
I think the end of the states is more likely and easier at this point. That broken ass system is just embedded too deep.
Time off work is also a huge factor
It is cheaper to keep people healthy through preventive care than it is to treat illness. From a taxpayer point of view, a single payer system would save us money.
But people are so propagandized in this country that they seriously think private insurance is the better option.
Meanwhile me with gay healthcare, is going to see specialists within the broader category of my niche disease.
Although to be fair, it took 1.5 years to get an appointment, availability have declined the past few decades
They will disqualify you if they think you have ever touched a vagina.
