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OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 2 days ago

She's just defending her country

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She's just defending her country

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OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 2 days ago
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  • mathemachristian [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 day ago

    The entire country is settler colonialism?? Who do you think lived there before the murderers showed up?

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      Perhaps a Jew or two

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        Yeah Pissrael doesn’t care

        https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/8/5/the-shocking-story-of-israels-disappeared-babies

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          22 hours ago

          They’re chillin

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            Pissrael really does not care

            The record shows that Zionism and anti-Jewish feelings (anti-Semitism) had a symbiotic relationship. Victims of Zionist ideology were not limited to the Palestinians (the native inhabitants) but extended to Jews and many others. Sephardic Jews who were forced to flee their homes and rather comfortable lives in Arab countries as Israel pushed to undermine their presence in those countries and as anti-Jewish feelings increased due to the repression of the Palestinians by self-declared Jewish representatives. Even today, actions of the State of Israel do increase and certainly do not decrease threats or danger to Jews around the world. So even strictly judging from its own stated goals of providing normality and safety to Jews, Zionism has been a failure. But perhaps these stated goals were not truly genuine and that Zionism, like so many other -isms, has been mainly about power and control. Declassified documents are shedding light on these things and raise very troubling questions.

            https://qumsiyeh.org/sharingthelandofcanaan/ Chapter 6

            some more snippets from that book about the cooperation between the nazis and the zionists

            The Zionists cooperated with the Nazis in the mid-thirties to facilitate Jewish immigration to Palestine. The details of this agreement were given by Edwin Black’s book (ref 17). After commencement of attacks on Jews under German control, the British, in the hope of easing the pressure for increased immigration into Palestine, proposed that thousands of Jewish children be admitted directly into Britain. Ben-Gurion, the recognized leader of labor Zionism at the time was absolutely against the plan, telling a meeting of Labour Zionist leaders on 7 Dec. 1938:

            If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England, and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Yisrael, then I would opt for the second alternative. For we must weigh not only the life of these children, but also the history of the People of Israel (ref 18)

            Rabbi Shonfeld quotes the Zionist leader Yitzhak Greenbaum, as stating after the war:

            When they asked me, couldn’t you give money out of the United Jewish Appeal funds for the rescue of Jews in Europe, I said, ‘NO!’ and I say again ‘NO!’ . . . one should resist this wave which pushes the Zionist activities to secondary importance(ref 19)

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              Pissrael does not give a fuck about Jews if they are the bad kind

              https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iraq-jews-attacks-zionist-role-confirmed-operative-police-report

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              18 hours ago

              Are we vilifying people for things that happened before they were born? What is your source? It seems pretty biased. Not sure I want to take the opinion of Mazin B. Qumsiyeh as gospel

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                Then check his references. I literally linked you the book and told you were in the book it is. You can also check out Qumsiyeh’s CV: https://qumsiyeh.org/curriculumvitae/

                More reading on the nazi-zionist cooperation is also at https://www.palestineremembered.com/Zionist_Relations_With_Nazi_German.html It’s all sourced of course so check for yourself.

                There’s also the issue of pissrael taking the reparations for itself and not using it for holocaust survivors https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/one-third-of-israeli-holocaust-survivors-live-in-poverty-advocates-say

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                  Something being printed in a book doesn’t mean it’s smart or worth saying. It just means you paid someone to print ur book

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                  I really need you to understand that his CV is not normal. I know you don’t know anything about anything but especially academia, and that looks like the CV of a zealot, not someone I would respect at work. I literally look at CVs of Phds at work and that is abnormal. I’m sorry you don’t understand what a scholar looks like.

                  https://www.palestineremembered.com/Zionist_Relations_With_Nazi_German.html.

                  Also palestine remembered dot com? Are we being serious here? Are you in 6th grade I don’t understand

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                  18 hours ago

                  I looked at his CV and I’ve never seen a messier one. Why is there a country in the background? You take this man seriously?

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                  Yeah and I’m saying I don’t trust that guy as far as I can throw him. I can’t take you seriously if you keep saying pissrael. It’s a country of millions, grow up. It’s like typing America Amerikkka. At a certain point you’re justr trying to claim moral high ground and I know and you know that you don’t really care about anyone, you just want to be horrible to people you perceive as being more privileged. You need to just shut up sometimes. Where are you from? Jc

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                    I know and you know that you don’t really care about anyone, you just want to be horrible to people you perceive as being more privileged.

                    no you just want to keep the cycle of oppression going and are looking for an easy way to not have to engage what I give you and so you attack the form but not the substance of what I link. You’re the one who barged in here with this hostile a tone, don’t be surprised when people respond in kind.

                    I have more on zionist relations with nazi germany there is also https://november8ph.ca/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/yahya-zionist-nazi-relations.pdf (again all sourced)

                    If you want to know more about oppression of the “wrong kind of jews” by the zionist project I can keep going btw. Did you know about the forced sterilisation of ethiopean jews upon their entrance to “israel”? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gave-birth-control-to-ethiopian-jews-without-their-consent-8468800.html

                    In fact there is a very pervasive undertone of anti-black racism in “Israel”. https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2018/3/29/black-lives-do-not-matter-in-israel/

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                  18 hours ago

                  I’m a history major so I tend to interrogate sources. I’d need to look into this guy q bit more before taking his word.

                  You saying pissrael loses you a lot of credibility. What country do you reside in? Do you use a rude nickname for it as well?

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                    17 hours ago

                    I live in genocidesmany. Yes I do.

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