This is the way.
That dude is so never getting any.
A rare British w
I’m sure his mind was changed on some level…
Probably realised he’s struck gold, attention seekers love attention and hate being ignored, this couldn’t have gone better for him
The class war dynamics are causing infinitely more harm than any perceived cultural wars this guy is hoping to cash in on the anxiety over. I’m not saying you don’t have a point in terms of receptiveness to the rhetoric in this period of widespread economic disparity, even if it is based in manipulation and hatred. I do think he’s not ONLY going to get approval from the people inclined to blame everything on the other rather than the new nobility, and there will be plenty of bad attention in the form of counter messaging as I think we’ve observed after Belfast.
Just to be clear, throwing a pie chart at me doesn’t validate anything he says, what ever your personal belief is in this discussion, all populations by nation have gotten more diverse everywhere due to globalization, and largely this has only improved conditions for the most humans, even the ones that can’t see their own privilege and access because they’re blinded by zero sum gain thinking. Not to downplay the areas of suffering and neglect which are numerous and severe, but this era is actually more stable and better for more people globally than ever in human history, which of course is why the ultra rich can’t help but filch what they perceive as excess for themselves to satisfy their hoarding disorders at our expense.
You might be convinced this grifting oaf will hit the peaks of Kirkdom, and I’d say you’re being hysterical if that’s what you believe, and that people get numb to these tactics and manipulations the more they’re exposed to them. That combined with increasing awareness of the oligarchy’s psychotic extraction and its impact on our daily lives from free access to information tells me that the grift that kept on giving since Gamergate birthed it is out of time.
Not sure what your goal was with this reply, to make me anxious perhaps? projecting your own uncertainty? Possibly revelling in the potential of his sentiments growing among the aggreived? I hate to disappoint but I think in any case I’m not feeling it, and I’m not getting swept up in the delusion. Tax reforms above all else, there is more than enough wealth being secreted away from governments by shockingly few people to solve social crises and dispel race madness. I’d remind you that white is not a skin colour or race, it’s a class, and that anger is a very motivating emotion, but is much better spent elsewhere if your actual goal is improving the quality of life for ANY demographic rather than just spreading harm.
people get numb to these tactics and manipulations the more they’re exposed to them
You’d think so but the UK is about to elect nigel farrage and need you need reminding who got voted in a second time and currently runs America
We also have a similar clown here in Australia at the moment who will likely be in opposition come the next election
and how could I forget as little as 2 weeks ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Northern_Ireland_riots
This guy is in his prime and has a key target audience in mind that keeps getting bigger, expect more of him not less
Ironically all the people here cheering this violence on are just fanning the flames
I already mentioned Belfast, I’m well aware of what happened. How’s the fallout from that been in the media and public sentiment anyway, genuinely asking. Do the upset white boys feel better burning homes and busses and improving exactly nothing?
I’m not saying Farage won’t get into power, I am saying that if he does it won’t be because of this whiney dimwitted charlie derp twat from the internets, it will be because of capital backers and his willingness to betray his country to their interests. Just like tRump has done in the US, he would sell it for parts and move somewhere else with the wealth they share with him for the favour. I am still not sure what your stance is on the overarching debate here as you didn’t clairfy that, but if you think this is a desired outcome I hope you’re ready for the shock when you realize while they brutalize and punish the browns for making the UK more culturally rich and prosperous your life will continue to worsen and people you don’t want caught up in the dragnet will be victimized too, just like with ICE in the US. Thankfully this is far from a certainty even if tabloids and biased media want you the fear it.
I remain unconvinced by this wannabe grifter dipshit, and I’m starting to feel like you’re doing free PR for him by overplaying this menace. Either way, we’ll have to disagree here, I lived through the entirety of Kirk’s growth arc and this kid ain’t it.
How’s the fallout from that been in the media and public sentiment anyway, genuinely asking. Do the upset white boys feel better burning homes and busses and improving exactly nothing?
Why are you genuinely asking me? How would I know? Lemmy is one of the meanest, nastiest forums on the internet, it is filled to the brim with left wing progressive American cunts
I would say ask them yourself but for obvious reasons they don’t post on Lemmy
I guess it would have helped to rally a core of troops and bring attention to refugee attacking a community member that otherwise may have gone unnoticed by the wider public, fuelling wider anti-immigrantion sentiment
Either way, we’ll have to disagree here, I lived through the entirety of Kirk’s growth arc and this kid ain’t it.
I was only ever exposed to Kirk through potholer54 exposing him as a crank … 17 years ago 👴
https://youtu.be/gKn5L__BID8?t=42
edit: I just realised I’ve mixed up Charlie Kirk with Kirk Cameron 😂
So I can’t say whether this kid is it or not however
if you think this is a desired outcome I hope you’re ready for the shock when you realize while they brutalize and punish the browns for making the UK more culturally rich and prosperous your life will continue to worsen
Why are you proselytising to me?
My life is amazing, I live in Queensland Australia 😎 I just had the most amazing: Smashed Avocado on Sourdough, Served w/ lemon wedges, beetroot hummus, feta, w/ Halloumi Cheese and Poached Egg AND a delicious almond cappuccino, life is good :)
Why are you proselytising to me?
I’m not lying, these outcomes are observable every day in the US as authorities engage in ‘immigration crackdowns’ where people are being jailed in camps, the vast majority of whom are neither criminals or illigal immigrants, and many who are American citizens holding views oppositional to the regime. I bring this up because you yourself alluded to the trump administration as an exmaple of what outcomes one could expect from trump like figures seizing power, which is the likely goal of the moron in the article. You also claimed that you have political figures in Australia where you’re apparently from, with similar intentions or rhertoric. So I’m saying the logical progression would be similar if one of them seizes power there, and you seem unconcerned. That’s your prerogative, but you don’t get to assert that I’m being disingenuous for pointing it out just because you don’t want to address the fact.
Do you have a fancy pie chart for what the population dynamics look like in Australia where things are great by the way? Cause that might be evidence against immigration and cultural diversity being the causative issue. I’m from Canada, and I can also report things are pretty great, at least where I’m at, in a huge city center with all kinds of ethinicities and traditions represented. So, I’m kinda unsure, again, why you started this with me by dropping that chart like it somehow proves this new grifter is worthy of concern, or how reacting to his manipulations in expected ways is fanning flames like he’s some kind of innocuous bystander, rather than knowingly taking an active role in sowing dischord. Why do you even care enough to be in these comments if you’re not in the UK and things are so great?
Edit: Hey I saw you went and changed the wording of “why are you purposefully lying to me” in the section of your reply I quoted after I responded.
tbh I was confused why you responded with lying when I said proselytising
I never edited that bit, my edit was adding in the food down the bottom and mixing up kirks
also you quoted me saying “ Why are you proselytising to me?” which is even more confusing, if I edited after your reply, wouldn’t that say lying instead?
There’s a reason the Kirk-types always do this on college campuses with campus security looking over their shoulder and not fucking Manchester lmao
‘If I were… ever able to have the opportunity to speak to Erika [Kirk], I would firstly give huge admiration towards her husband on the formula and ideas that I [drew] great inspiration from’.
He can save his breath, she’s utterly ecstatic that her husband is dead.
“the formula”
“I wanted to thank you for your husband’s method of psychological indoctrination and spreading hate, we owe all our wealth to this pioneer”
And just like Charlie Kirk I’d never heard of him until he got beaten up. If the media would just stop talking about these idiots they wouldn’t be famous they’d just be random Twitter racists and we could all ignore them. But now the little dweeb has got a following.
They get the following from social media and far right fraternity, not from media coverage.
Yeah I mean
What I saw that day was a group of migrant lads being egged on by left-wing agitators
They couldn’t have cemented his beliefs more, this is perfect for him
Like left wing progressives being beaten up by police this is the goal of attention seekers and they handed it to him on a silver platter
Did he turn to the left at the end?
I had no idea who Young Bob was until a video of him in the front lines of the rioting in Southampton and then being interviewed by Owen Jones in Makerfield. He’s certainly not a British Charlie Kirk: has zero charisma, couldn’t understand Jones’ (pretty basic) questions and struggled to articulate coherent answers. Jones had to continuously repeat and simplify his questioning and even then Young Bob couldn’t comprehend. He’s the big, loud-mouthed rightwinger who sits in Year 11 classes who won’t stop giving his racist and misogynist views and everyone hates.
So he’s less of a British Charlie Kirk and more of a British Nick Shirley.
Benebolent?
I like the bit where he thinks he’s been oppressed because he got fired from McDonald’s for been an arse. You just know that he was insufferable to work with.
It doesn’t matter. If you get over a certain threshold of views and interactions it’s like starting a fire, it spreads on its own. The right jump right on it, they love this shit, and more and more people get radicalized because it gets in their feed and since everything is black and white and about outrage and culture war shit you get people on your side simply because if you’re not on “the other side” you’re by definition on their side, or so it’s framed.
And yeah, I believe at some point violence is the answer.
I’d rather fight obese chavs now than having to storm Normandy in 20 years.
Was that a reply to me? I’m 100% in agreement with you. At some point it will come down to force.
He got a well-deserved debeating.
What a cunt. Deserved it.
It warms the cockles of my heart!
Ha! Keeping the trash out of your streets
I love that for Manchester.
We do things differently here.
