Their conclusion differs from the current U.S. dietary guidelines.
Americans should limit their alcohol consumption to no more than one drink per day, according to a study published Tuesday in the Journal of Studies on Alcohol and Drugs.
The recommendation — from an international team of scientists — differs from the U.S. dietary guidelines, both past and present. Previous guidelines recommended a daily limit of two alcoholic drinks for men and one for women. The latest version, released by the Trump administration in January, is less precise. It recommends only that Americans “consume less alcohol for better overall health.”
The current less-is-best message is accurate but too vague, said study co-author Priscilla Martinez-Matyszczyk, deputy scientific director of the Alcohol Research Group at the Public Health Institute, an independent nonprofit organization in California. People need quantified guidance so they can make informed decisions about their drinking, she said.
I like a drink, but every day seems excessive to me. I do 2-3 a week, or sometimes less. Like honestly I think if you drink daily you have a problem.
That’s where the Theseus strategy comes in. Start with one drink and just keep topping it off.
Just drink from the bottle, its 1 glass.
World health organization is at zero drinks per day max at the moment so
does the WHO have alcohol industry lobbyists demanding recommendations that don’t include abstaining from alcohol? USA does
In Canada, 7 drinks a week is considered heavy drinker, which describes 25% of the population.
If you told me that back when I was having 12 a week I would have scoffed. Funny thing though is these days I’ll go months without a single drink, and if I do have a cocktail at a restaurant or something it very noticeably affects my sport performance for several days.
Removing alcohol from my life entirely somehow feels a little “too extreme” but the more I think about it the less I can justify keeping it around
My partner caught a drinking problem and it took him some time to get sober for good. I quit alcohol before he did, and continue to abstain for him. I did miss it sometimes, but Im about five years “sober” and honestly, I didnt realize how much alcohol was affecting me too.
I usually had 3-4 drinks a week in my hey day, but when I quit, most of my anxiety did too. My depression symptoms lessened, and I found multiple other ways to have fun, and honestly, got more comfortable with being goofy and dancing sober. It oddly helped my self esteem too.
About once a year, summer time vibes will trigger a wish to drink, I just cope through it and move on from it, on a whole I feel so much better day to day, this really surprised me.
I am drinking more than ever, and it seems like a lot of other people are too.
What, like average?
No problemo.
Bullshit!
Chances on this being a recommendation straight from Don’s simple mind? Dude doesn’t drink alcohol and probably judges people that do.
Alcohol is genuinely very bad for your health. WHO recommends none.
The epidemiology on this is really tough. It depends entirely on the inclusion/exclusion criteria. I’m not deeply versed in the WHO recommendations, but I expect they would stem from recognized harms from overuse and exposure in utero, with no discernible benefit to other adults.
Dr. Bob
I’m not deeply versed…
I expect…
Not interested in the opinion of a doctor who won’t bother to read the research he comments on.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯. The WHO isn’t research, it’s policy panels. I was a physiologist so I’m more about the cellular processes than the cultural.
But I’d recommend Drink? by David Nutt if you want to read the opinion of a doctor who has read almost everything.
Research concluded in mega studies there was no safe amount of alcohol intake. Multiple studies, thousands monitored.
https://newsroom.uw.edu/news-releases/no-safe-level-alcohol-scientific-study-concludes/
Doctors told Americans wine was good for cardiac health in the 90s.
It’s all based on inclusion and exclusion criteria in the epidemiology. Change the study cohort and you change the result. The data hasn’t changed over time, the study cohort has. Like I said it is really complicated.
Because studies then seemed to show benefit.
That’s how useful studies are.
“Adults should have no more than one drink a day, a team of scientists says, however children should get shitfaced on the regular.”
I drink one beer with dinner, about 4x a week. That’s it. I can’t remember the last time I was drunk, or even a little buzzed.
I’ve become so paranoid about DUIs, that I don’t order a beer when I go out to dinner, because if I get pulled over, and a cop asks how much I’ve had to drink, I want to be able to say with full confidence that I’ve had ZERO.
Side point, but the legally correct answer to “have you had anything to drink tonight?” is the same as the answers to “do you know how fast you were going?” and “where ya coming from?”
“I have been advised by counsel to exercise my fifth amendment rights during all encounters with law enforcement if my attorney is not present”
Of course, the diplomatic response is to answer the question. A cop that’s pissed because they think their legal authority is being questioned is as bad as a dirty cop seeking a bribe. Both will do unethical things and skirt the letter of the law in a way that at best inconveniences their victim, and at worst gets them killed. Not sure where I was going with this, I’m a middle-aged white cis man that would fit in at any gun show, so I can get away with things others can’t 🤷♂️
“I have been advised by counsel to exercise my fifth amendment rights during all encounters with law enforcement if my attorney is not present”
Have you tried saying that while nervous because you’re being confronted by law enforcement? People tend to become monosyllabic under stress.
I’ve said that or something similar numerous times to cops. But like the guy above i’m a white guy and also a veteran of war so their little macho show doesn’t really do anything for me.
My suggestion if you get stressed in that type of situation is to expose yourself to situations that are more stressful but you’re in control. Something like skydiving or race car driving. That should dampen your adrenaline response a bit and allow you to think at stressful times.
As the above commenter mentioned, the “legally correct” answer is typically not the most expedient.
Even if the cop is a dick, they are almost always mostly concerned about doing their job more than pinning 10,000 trumped up charges on you. They are there to meet their quota and do a cursory poke around to catch people carrying a trunk full of heroin.
Really what you should do is keep your hands at 10 and 2 until told otherwise, be polite and pleasant, and comply with all requests promptly with a “yes, officer”. Of course, the lemmy edgelords will say that you should never tell an officer anything because “muh rights” - and sure, you have the right to make the officer’s job as hard as possible and piss them off to no end. But the officer has quite a bit of leeway as to how they might proceed in your interaction - and making their life harder probably wont endear them to you
“Have you been drinking?”
“Yes, Officer”
But cops are still charging people with DUIs who never drink.
Even if that is true, there are BAC tests.
Police can, and will, still charge people the DUI even after they pass breathalyzer tests.
It really depends on the cop, how shitty they are, and how bad of a day they’re having.
And probably depends on what country you’re in.
There are plenty of documented incidents of this if you bother to look without blindly trusting police. Just because you blow zeroes doesn’t mean you don’t still get charges, jail time, fees, and court. The cop just claims you sobered up before administering the test, but you were definitely intoxicated initially based on their “extensive training, experience, and superhuman abilities that supercede an impartial and scientifically accurate machine.” Yes, this holds up in court regularly.
Also that’s what the other field sobriety tests are for. To see if someone is impaired. Really it’s so they have an excuse to book you since those tests can be difficult for anyone with mobility issues or just if the cop feels like being a dick which is often.
When I was in the academy a decade ago, the instructors gave us about two dozen ways of fucking with someone doing FSTs that would look okay on body cam but make the tester fail, to give more weight in court.
Any lawyer worth their salt will tell you that unless your local laws require you to do FSTs, you should refuse them. Fuck anyone actually driving intoxicated, but if you get pulled for DUI you’re getting railroaded whether you’re sober or not, so you should defend yourself in as many ways as the law provides.
Good thing I’m an child at heart
Big Science trying to keep the world too sober. Can’t they see what’s going on outside?
Agreed. What is this even trying to tell us?
They study found men who had more than 6.5 drinks per week and women who had more than seven per week had greater than a 1-in-1,000 lifetime risk of dying from alcohol-related diseases or injuries.
Obviously, I’ll die no matter what. This just says I’ve got 999 problems and alcohol ain’t one of them.
Congrats on your sobriety!
Hmmm. I guess either you misread, or more than likely I misspoke. I should have said that I have 999 out of 1000 problems that are not alcohol, with the remaining problem very much being alcohol.
Yeah, I figured that’s what you meant, but it’s not what you said. You’ve got 1000 problems and alcohol is exactly one. Congrats on the 1,000 micromorts!
Not to mention it doesn’t say anything about when. Is that an alcohol related death in their 30s, 50s, or 80s? What is the impact of removing DUI-related deaths for drinkers who don’t drive? Hell, does it count people who drink more than a drink per day but get killed by someone else driving drunk?
I gotta say that this falls below the risk threshold that I care about. Actually, I wonder if that is the intent, like a bit of reverse psychology by saying “don’t do this dangeous thing, or you risk increasing split ends in your hair by 12%!” when it is actually trying to discredit people talking about the legitimate risks by treating trivial ones as serious. Though probably not because most people would probably just take the main message rather than look closely enough to see the misdirection.
I prefer living a shorter life with more fun tbh.
Yeah, but that last year or two will be rough
Especially for the CEO I take out. Wahoo!
my father drank himself to death. He died maybe on the toilet, but his whole apartment was covered in piss, shit and blood, as he wandered around helplessly for however long his heart was failing. I didnt go in the bathroom, you couldnt, it was a massive bio hazard and where they found his corpse.
He was estranged from his family. He sat dead in that apartment for three days before someone called a wellness check.
super fun.
I’m fuckin ready twats.
PSA: non-alcoholic beers have gotten way better since your gramps drank O’Doul’s for two years before he fell back off the wagon for good and started deliberately hitting women with his grocery cart at price chopper.
PSA: alcohol free wine on the other side is still utterly undrinkable.
LPT: Feels good to switch to alcohol only 1-2 per week.
I quite like grape juice.
I do not understand why more restaurants and shops are not pushing premium sparkling grape juice, apple cider, and ginger ale for when you want something to pour into stemware with dinner. So many restaurant’s only alternative to a bottle of wine is cheap HFCS-based soda.
I mean, as a non drinker, I fucking love Martinelli Apple Cider. At events, my alcoholic grandparents would always have it for kids too young for wine (to them, 10yos) and I just kept drinking it into adulthood.
Granted I also found better conversation with my kid cousins over my other relatives, but that’s an added bonus.
Martinellis cider is my favorite part of holidays, haha! It’s just so much fun!
The Heineken 0.0 is practically indistinguishable from the real thing.
That’s cause Heineken was indistinguishable from sparkling water all along.
I prefer it over Athletic NA beers that taste more like herbal water than beer to me lol
I’m sober and sometimes one of those Heineken 0.0 just hits the spot when I’m out with friends or otherwise would have drank.
You know what? Your comment just reminded me that I’ve put off quitting for way too long, now.
The half gallon of beer I drink every night really isn’t fun anymore.
I will not drink with you today!I will not drink with you today, friend :)
Agreed. I still prefer a real one in most cases, but the NA options taste identical in some cases and there are a ton of NA options that taste great. I’d not have given them a try if my friend hadn’t stopped drinking. Glad he did and I may follow his decision in time.
