Dave Ramsey is an asshole person, but he is one of the few people out there giving pretty good advice to people who really need it. Not so much the finical part (that’s generally mediocre), but the emotional part that drives a lot of these decisions. He’s one of the few voices that’s out their telling people with hundreds of thousands in debt with 2+ kids making $80k that they don’t have to take care of their 60+ year old parents that never saved and feel like they should be able to retire. He tells people that experience massive trauma and loss that it’s ok to take time to process and pause major financial decisions while they process that grief.
Dude admitted to being an Evangelical Christian, so that’s part of the reason.
It’s extremely messed up that Dave would do that, though.
How does he know? Can he prove it?
He was there the whole time
Rave Ramsy suing for defamation…
/s
I’m haven’t read the article yet but I’m betting it was a woman and not a man.
Edit: Yep. She got pregnant and he fired her.
Apparently he has fired several men as well
This is so fucking stupid because doesn’t he tell people all the time on his call show that its fine for them to “shack up” and not be married? Different advice for the public audience to people he knows in real life. How odd.
I guess he wanted a piece but couldn’t get it before someone else did so he got salty.
He also tells people they “have to” tithe when they’re debating cutting it to make their budget feasible.
What a prat
Ruh roh raggy
A Wall Street guy is a piece of shit? No way! Say it isn’t so.
N?TIL…
Good catch
Also check the title
Damnit. I thought you’ll teach me something new today! It was just a typo???
Is that even remotely legal?
It shouldn’t be…
Everything in the US is legal provided you’re wealthy enough, or “Christian” enough.
At will employment means either the employee or the employer can terminate the employment at any time for any reason, provided it isn’t discriminatory or retaliatory, so unless you can argue premarital sex havers are a protected demographic, it’s completely legal.
Pregnancy is a protected class though, it’s going to be an uphill battle to say it’s premarital sex, when the evidence of that is the pregnancy.
You’re incorrect. The key isn’t the sex part, it’s the premarital part. It’s called familial status discrimination. If you would fire an unmarried employee for a behavior, but not fire a married employee, it’s marriage and familial status discrimination, which is illegal. You can’t fire someone for being married, and you cannot fire them for not being married.
So you demand every staff member be celibate, that would be perfectly fine. But when you let married employees have sex, but you punish unmarried employees, then you are engaging in unlawful discrimination based on marriage and familial status.
You just fire any employee for having sex with someone they aren’t married to. Then you’d get premarital sex and adulterers, if Christians still cared about that.
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We must argue that it’s discriminatory against sex havers
Pretty sure you can argue freedom of religion
This is true, which is hilarious because it proves it’s all just make believe bullshit. You can manufacture a religion and its tenets out of thin air and the courts are obliged to take it seriously and when they don’t want to (ie: Church of Satan) it’s fascinating to watch them try and call your bullshit bullshit without implying that their bullshit is also bullshit.
Anyhow, with the current makeup of the government, Ramsay can do what he wants. Why anybody would work for him is beyond my ability to understand. I think she gets what she deserves for accepting a job with a morality clause like this in it anyway, I’ve no sympathy at all. Likely another “Christian” who happily takes everybody else’s rights away but when they want to have sex, well then they should get an exception. Get
fuckedbent.If your religion requires premarital sex, you can argue that. Freedom of religion and freedom from religion are not the same thing.
Yet freedom of religion laws also enshrine protections from religion for those who are atheist or or otherwise religiously disinclined. And I have yet to hear of a secularly written law that prohibits premarital sex.
You don’t need a law. The US has codified protected classes through quite a bit of different areas like housing, employment, and education; they are race, religion, sex (and factors such as pregnancy, sexual orientation, and gender identity (but who knows with this one), national origin, age (if over 40), and disability/genetic condition. If it isn’t one of those things, then selecting employees based on other traits is not discrimination in the legal sense. You can absolutely bring suit against the employer, but you are the one fighting the uphill battle arguing why unwed non-virgin should be a protected class. It’s also an incredibly hard thing to pursue, because the employee must prove that is why they were fired and that alone, while the employer can just say “that and they didn’t fit values/they were late/I don’t like their voice”. Employees don’t often win.
The employee who was fired while pregnant may well have some case, because they basically admit it’s due to the pregnancy, but who knows where it lands in court because the pregnancy is used as proof of other supposed rule violations.
Satanism to the rescue!
Ironically, there’s nothing in the Bible that explicitly calls out premarital sex as forbidden for Christians. It mentions “sexual immorality” and adultery, but doesn’t specify what it considers “immoral”. Even in the OT, if a man seduced an unmarried woman he either had to marry her or pay her bride-price. Also, Mary was engaged to someone else when God knocked her up.
Yes, but not with the current courts
But it protects the company’s freedom of religion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burwell_v._Hobby_Lobby_Stores%2C_Inc
Private employers in this country (including Ramsey) have more rights than workers.
Then the current courts are illegitimate.
Have been forever
“Rave Ramsey” makes him sound too cool
Rave Ramsey says go to Coachella with unpaid credit card balances.
I would expect someone called Rave Ramsey to be pan, chill and certainly not concerned with Christian Fundamentalist morality.
This is what they mean when they use the term “virtue signaling”.
