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    3 months ago

    Honestly, I’m failing to see the antisemitism. They’re exaggerating his facial features, which is standard practice in editorial cartoons. Unless I’m missing something?

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      3 months ago

      Political characatures (sp) are common, but if you’ve looked at the specifically antisemitic ones from history you would see these borrow heavily and obviously from those old racist comics.

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      They aren’t exaggerating. They’re modifying to fit the “cunning greedy” antisemitic trope face. Big nose is fine, they made his hooked. Tooth gap is fine, they made him look like he’s been holding out on the dentist to chew gold. Long, flat side-pointy grin is fine. They made him look like a nervous Grinch contemplating the suffering of others with glee.

      The difference is so stark one wonders if you were saying this in good faith, in contrast to the presented dirtbag devil’s advocate (there’s no reason regardless to give them a benefit of the doubt nor defend them given what their position and the points they’re making, even if the art style were borderline).

    • He’s jewish and the feature they’re exaggerating is the nose. There are the people that have been crying foul over an italian newspaper printing an image of an iof soldier unedited, saying it’s antisemitic because the dude is relly ugly

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          None of these are good counter-examples. They gave him a “Jew-nose” when he doesn’t have one. These other ones are either inspired by the person’s real nose or other types of unflattering noses with different implications. Perhaps the best defense using this evidence is that they didn’t give Zelenskyy a Jew-nose despite him being Jewish, if it’s one of the publications from the collage above.

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        3 months ago

        I don’t know the story about the Italian newspaper and the IDF soldier, so I can’t judge that.

        But I do have to be fair and say the nose is one of the many features they exaggerate (and the nose is very often a feature exaggerated in editorial cartoons, whether the person is Jewish or not). They also exaggerate the ears, his smile, and the gap in his teeth.

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            Exaggerated noses are a trope in caricatures regardless of ethnicity. But more importantly, the guy actually does have a bigger than average nose and big ears. What are the caricaturists supposed to do, not exaggerate his features? That’s the point of caricatures.

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              Look at how wide Polanski’s nose is between his eyes, where it transitions into the brow. Now look how narrow his nose is between the eyes in the cartoons, and how there is a dent at his brow that just isn’t there IRL.

              The cartoons aren’t exaggerating Polanski’s features, they are drawing an antisemitic “Jew nose”.

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              The ears and teeth are probably fair game but his nose is normal and unremarkable. The nose in the first three is 100% hook nosed merchant jewish stereotype. The slimer one doesn’t seem nearly as bad as the others.

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                His nose is quite distinctive. In front-facing photos (e.g. [1] [2]) the tip is the lowest part of his nose with the nostrils being above the tip. It’s reasonable to draw this as a hook nose in a caricature.

                Where the caricatures, particularly the one in the top right, go wrong is in drawing his nose with a prominent bridge (like this real nose), which he doesn’t really seem to have.

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      Top right is the clearest example, it gives him a massive hooked nose. His nose is mostly straight. In contrast, every single Nazi poster depicted jews with, you guessed it, massive hooked noses.

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      They’re out in force on this one. Scream antisemitism enough, and no form of satire, humor, criticism or anything else will be allowed if the person is Jewish. At least that is their hope. It’s half working, but I think it has peaked. At least that is my hope. Hopefully it starts its reverse trajectory now.