The first Jurassic Park movie is all time one of the greatest films ever made with the special effects still holding up to this day. The 2nd film was still very enjoyable in my opinion but it was just a cookie cutter sequel not bad, not good. The 3rd film wasn’t great at all. But compared to the rest of the series the 3rd film is basically the godfather.

As another personal pick the 1st blade movie is a hood classic good. The other 2 not so much.

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      If you take each trilogy as a set, sure.

      But Empire and Return were both amazing films that one-upped the original.

      And I think Clones was better than Phantom.

      The final trilogy was a straight fucking cliff both by itself and in comparison to the other trilogies.

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      Hmm… Kind of a weird take considering the Prequels had no blowing up of any super weapons, and the Sequels had only one, in the first film.

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    Nah, Blade 2 still fucks.

    Blade Trinity is just as rough now as it was when it first released.

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    Alien has been in slow decline but it’s steady, the puppy dog alien of alien:earth was the latest offender.

    Also: do we really need so many terminator movies?

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      Both of those make a strong case for the second one being better than the first.

      But yeah, they definitely drop off a cliff.

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        Alien and Aliens were different types of movies. Horror vs Action. That’s why Aliens works. It isn’t a rehash of the first.

        T2 was similar to T1, but a change in dynamics like Aliens did. Sarah Connor was more in charge and knew what to do about Terminators by the sequel.

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      I thought John Wick maintained the same level through all the sequels.

      Also, you’re telling me that Thor (1) is better than Infinity War?

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        Yeah I think anyone who thinks John Wick got worse over time was probably a teenager when the first one came out. They’re all schlocky action films. The fourth one at least has some unique set pieces

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      Glad I’m not the only one who feels that way.

      The first one was a masterpiece, two was good, but 3 & 4 just felt like they were pushing to hard to release quickly and had no real sole. The first John Wick I can rewatch over and over and enjoy every viewing. The rest… once was enough.

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      • The Lord of the Rings was very consistent. Many people think that Return of the King is the best one.
      • Knives Out had a rather disappointing second part but the third one is amazing.

      Yeah, that’s all I can think of right now.

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        Lord of the Rings barely counts, because not only were all three books out and classics before the movies started (obviously), but the three movies were basically worked on at the same time. It’s nuts, but somehow they managed to do it.

        So it’s not like they released the first, got crazy hype, and then phoned everyone up and said “electric Boogaloo, you in?”. They’d already shot most of the second and third by the time the first came out, as I recall.

        Also I really liked Glass Onion 😛

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          At least to me and my friends who watched it with me. See my other reply for an explanation why. But of course, tastes differ and there seem to be quite a few people on here who liked it.

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        Knives Out 2 is by far my favorite and I love all three. I’ve only laughed that hard at a movie a handful of times.

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          My main criticism about Glass Onion is that the twist only works because Blanc knows something from the start that the audience can’t really figure out on their own. I prefer detective stories where the main character has the same opportunities to gather information as I have and if I pay close enough attention, I can figure out most of what happened before the big reveal.

          But I’m glad that you liked it. Shows that the series caters to different tastes.

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      Star Wars original trilogy. All three are fantastic but Empire and ROTJ are better both because of budget and having superior directors behind the camera. George has a great imagination but should not be allowed to be the one who brings his stories to life. I’d also offer that out of the Prequels, ROTS is far superior to I & II and is in roughly the same league as the OT. And then there’s Rogue One; oh it’s beautiful.

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        ROTJ is the weakest part of the OT. Better production and direction, sure, but so much else is lacking.

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      I’m just thinking in big franchises, because I’m not a well-schooled film-nerd. But even I can think of a lot of examples of sequels better than the originals.

      It’s a matter of taste, but I think Rocky 2 is the strongest film in the franchise. I think it’s more commonly believed that Aliens is a stronger film than Alien. Evil Dead 2 is better than Evil Dead, but that might not count since its a soft reboot. Star Trek 2: Wrath of Khan is pretty much a classic example. Terminator 2 is a very different movie than Terminator 1, making comparison weird but it’s usually regarded as better. Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man 2 is arguably stronger than Spider-Man, though obviously 3 was a bit of a mess.

      Going to put this in a separate section. Admittedly, whether this should count is arguable. Still, If you count Marvel movies as direct sequels to others, it gets ridiculously easy: Thor: Ragnarok is so much better than all the other Thor movies its kind of nuts. Winter Soldier is stronger than First Avenger and Civil War might be better than both. Guardians of the Galaxy 2 is the strongest film in that franchise.

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    Ghost Rider. First one was goofy action, but still kinda cool. Second one was boring, confusing and lame. But at least it had an exploding bucket-wheel excavator in it, which was the only good scene.

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    Anime has entered the chat.

    Tokyo Ghoul. Amazing first season. Body horror, depression, and zombie stuff all rolled into one. Masterpiece. Season 2 came out ahead of the rest of the books and it sucked. Seasons 3 and 4 adapted the second book series, but they speed ran it and only hit highlights and it was confusing AF.

    Promised Neverland. Also amazing first season. Thriller with children trying to escape an orphanage that has a dark secret (revealed in first episode). They had like 5-7 seasons’ worth of content and started to do a second season, but the funding (and creativity!) ran out so they speed ran the rest of the manga, and it was so bad, the directors had their names taken off the billing.

    “Second season when?” has become a trope due to so many with excellent first seasons followed by terrible ones. Attack on Titan almost counts. First season was awesome, we called it Japan’s answer to The Walking Dead when TWD was decent. Second season took 4 years and sucked, but season 3 more than made up for it. Season 4, “the final season,” “the final season part 2,” “the final season for realz this time”, “the final season trust us we can see the finish line” and “the final chapters” sucked, though.

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      Is AoT actually finished and released at this point? I stopped watching after the final season part 1 because I felt so betrayed and said to myself I’d only ever watch it again when I can actually finish the storyline

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      Psycho Pass

      Season 1 is one of my favorites sci-fi crime cyberpunks shows …and it just got worse after that…

      I only own S1 Blu-ray and forget the other seasons existed.

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    Ghostbusters. Some late 80’s exec in tv and film was obsessed with putting babies in everything and the second movie got shanked in a dark alley by them.

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        Alien 1 vs Alien 2 is such an interesting split. The first is so full of dread and so claustrophobic. The second is like an action horror movie. The vision of Ridley Scott and James Cameron couldn’t be more different but both are great movies.

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          I really don’t know what went wrong so hard with Alien 4. On technical side it was amazing. Acting was great with so many stars. The plot was so bad tho, I still can’t believe they greenlighted such a horrible writing.

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          Imo that’s exactly why the Allen franchise is/was so great. Each movie was something different, with a different director.

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        Romulus is phenomenal. If you haven’t already, I do recommend watching it. Through the whole thing I felt like I’m watching the best bits of Alien and Aliens stitched together.