I took a lot of photos with a lot of people during the late 90’s. I wonder if those backup CDs in storage are still good.

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    I wonder if it only took until the 1920s for people to say “back in the 1800s” in order to anger the old people

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      The late 1900s did. Closer to mid 1900s was reel to reel tape. Before that, smoke signals and carrier pigeon.

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    Floppies are particularly vulnerable to decay from my understanding.

    I found a box of 8-12 disks a few years ago and exactly none of them were readable. That’s probably bad luck but…

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      It’s unfortunately the same case for Tapes and VCRs, those thin plates and strips can be wiped by a reasonably stout magnet

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      I never heard any one call those cassettes. Everyone I know just called then tapes. But your usage is correct according to Wikipedia.

      I always figured cassettes were small.

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        Kind of cool that as storage media on tape shrunk in physical size and grew in data storage the term cassette started to change use in shorthand parlance.

        It’s a generic term but yeah to everyone nowadays a cassette would be one of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassette_tape

        That wiki article has more examples in it of older ones too and competitors if you feel like a little random reading.

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        Cassette just means a small case, compact enough that you can plug the entire case straight into your machine. A “normal” sized case would be one of those metal canisters that store 8mm movie reels, and you need to take the tape out of those to use them.

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    Nah these were still king of the pron. Blanks in a shoebox under a bed. Some wild jungle shit on them that made you understand why you are a mixed baby. It wasn’t your parents on the tape. It’s just what daddy liked.

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    Even using just 8bit color depth you’d only be able to store a single 424x424 pixel image (uncompressed) on a “high density” 1.4MB floppy.

    That’s absolutely garbage, but makes it all the more impressive that an upgrade from windows 95 to the first version of windows XP only took two floppy disks.

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      How would that be even possible? At least all graphics and the system kernel would have to fit in about 3MB.

      Do you have a link about that?

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        I did it myself on a relative’s very old laptop a few years ago. I think it was specifically the 32bit Windows XP Service Pack 1 (SP1) upgrade for Windows 95 (maybe 98?)

        I just searched it up and was able to find an iso with only 129MB which is still impressive. But that’s a clean install, if I get more time to look into this later, (or if I can find the floppy disks themselves) I’ll try to find the original and send it to you if you want

        Also you’re right, the fact it got images is pretty insane. Then again the only real “graphics” would be default icons, and possibly the green landscape but I wanna say that it didn’t even have that background image when I finished the upgrade; I think it was just a solid color. (The real crazy thing I remember was that the laptop had a color capable screen but had a purely black and white OS on it originally lol)

        I think much of the kernel carried over. Also I can’t recall if I updated it to 98 before xp or not. That might’ve cut down on the needed install space.

        Anyway you’ve gotten me curious, I kinda want to find that laptop now. Maybe I’ll use it to make authentic “Analog nowhere” style art with paint lol


        Edit: This site seems to have the boot images for windows xp floppies and exe’s to create them. Looks like only 6 floppies are needed in total for all of Windows XP SP1

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    Assuming that as an older millennial, I’m the parent you’re talking about, no. Porn almost never went on those. VHS and paper magazines mostly. Computer porn would be downloaded to a convoluted folder depth with misleading names on your hard drive, and would never be placed on removable media unless you had a CD burner, which was rare as fuck (but they did exist).

    Seriously though, people used to make genuine mazes out of nested folders.

    If you were in the era of dial up BBS systems, you still were far more likely to use a hard drive than a floppy. The reason floppies weren’t used is that even at low resolution with still images, not much would fit on the things, super inconvenient. Shareware, sure. Porn? Not likely.

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      I can confirm the existance of said mazes of nested folders. Also renaming files to have the wrong extension for the file type, to prevent anyone else from finding them.

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        Windows sold me out by having a “Recently viewed files” section on the start menu that I had not noticed. Luckily, it was my friends that found it and not my parents.

        Still, though, being caught red-handed with badly photoshopped fake nudes of Britney Spears was quite embarrassing for teenage me.

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          I discovered Slackware Linux at the age of 15, which kinda raised the bar for unexpected entry to my collection. But it also prevented myself from perusing it, as I couldn’t get a proper image viewer to work for the first couple of weeks… :-)

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    Millennial lies!

    Porn in the 90’s, that was not in print, was stored on tape. By the mid 90:s the most tech savvy of us saved porn on a “zip disk” which were also primarily tape drives.

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      Zip disks were closer to floppies. Magnetic disks and tape are fundamentally different (random access, especially), although the physics behind the R/W operation is the same.

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    It was feasible to download online images or WMV, AVI or RealPlayer videos to floppies. But it would take 8 minutes to download 1.44 MB over a mid-range 28k modem in 1999, and it could hold about 50 640x480 JPEGs or two minutes of 240p video.

    Or did you mean “this was the internet back then” as in sneakernet or another non-computer alternative (not actually a connection between computers but accomplishing the same goal)?

    Alternatively, “porn” could also mean lewd text, which load faster than one can read even on slowest modems, and a floppy can hold hundreds of pages printed on a dot matrix printer. Over two thousands with compression.

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    Oh sure yeah in 1906 people had porno jpegs on floppies, only problem was they didn’t have the technology to access them 😅