Graphene runs every app I’ve tried, no issues.

☝🏻This. BUT, if you can’t wait until Samsung drops their GOS model, you might get longer life out of it. But GOS support window is pretty broad. Can’t remember exactly, but I think it’s 5 years. So getting a Pixel wouldn’t be horrible.

GrapheneOS but check banking apps again because for me they were working till last year but then Google started enforcing Play integrity check instead of SafetyNet checks. I was able to do almost everything from website so there’s that

Nice thing about graphene is that you can put Instagram and the like in a different user but for some reason I can’t figure out how to get my sim to work while I’m using the other user profiles

I wish I could use Graphene, but the pixel’s pitifully small and expensive storage to force you into cloud storage really makes an SD card necessary. I have around 200GB on my phone + SD already(including OS), and I don’t want only 50 GB for more photos and music in the next 7 years WITH the more expensive option…

Graphene.

my list is the same as yours (minus android auto) and i’ve been wondering the same thing so i have decided to offload the capabilities that i need on my current phone while tethering it to my new lineage or graphene phone.

it seems that graphene is more secure, but i hate google with a fiery passion so i refuse to support them in any way including supporting their second hand market. i’ve also NEVER had good luck buying second hand personal electronics so it would be foolish for me to do it again. also: my goal is to de-google and my privacy threat is the local police and ice; not the cia, nsa, the rest of homeland security or mossad; so that makes both graphene and lineage work for me.

on the other hand: lineage supports more devices, but i looked the other day at the most recently released phone models and pixels top that list too; so it seems that going w a pixel opens to door to letting you use both graphene and lineage if you decide that you like one more than the other.

i was going to purchase an e/os device from murena up until a few weeks ago until its ceo showed his stripes in public and made he clear that he’s thinks that only criminals was this sort of security.

"considering setting up a De-Googled OS as well, but there are a few things that I cannot compromise on:

• Google Maps"

Sorry but … is this a joke?

I’ve been running GrapheneOS for several years now and I love it, and currently run it on a Pixel 9 Pro XL. Super easy to install and use. With respect to the things you can’t compromise on, you should be fine if you run the sandboxed Google Play services. I will say that my banking app updated a while back and now will not work with GrapheneOS, saying something about a lack of security, which I assume is because they probably added checks for stock android, so YMMV. If you buy a used Pixel, make sure you get one with an unlockable bootloader. Carrier phones have locked bootloaders, along with carrier locking, and when they unlock them they just unlock the carrier aspect so that you can use them on other carriers, and the bootloaders remain locked so you can’t wipe the OS and install another, so you have to make sure you get one with an unlockable bootloader. Some ebay sellers advertise this, making it easy to find what you need. If you ever want to revert to stock android, it is an easy change. Google’s “unverified app” decision does not affect GrapheneOS’ ability to sideload apps, as it is a completely different OS.

1. Regarding Google Maps, you might wanna try “Here WeGo” which is by a company in the Netherlands and more privacy friendly than Google.
2. If your primary goal is security and privacy, GrapheneOS is your best choice. LineageOS is good, if your device does not support GOS; I have no experience with /e/OS in terms of usage.
3. On Google Pixels it is possible through official methods to install Stock OS again, same for Fairphone. I don’t know about other devices.
4. Alternative Android Distributions like GOS, LOS and /e/OS won’t be affected, except if you install Google Play Services (and related), though GrapheneOS will likely limit it with their sandboxed method if you do so.

As you are asking this in a privacy community I would say Graphen. But as you want to keep gmaps you might also want the comfort you get with e/os when also using their cloud. Personally I would recomend a used pixel 8 with e/os and to try mapy.cz to replace gmaps. About going back to stock OS if you choose a pixel flashing images is stupid easy :) so no worrys there.

Yes the unverified apps thing will affect you no matter what. It’s not getting better any time soon. There are a lot of reasons for that.

You can’t “de-google” if you are 100% married to googles navigation service. It’s gonna become much harder to avoid play services (the google play store and all its telemetry) if you need a banking app and teams even if they seem to work now because the “reasons” above.

Other people have said that “privacy is a spectrum” in response to the following unconventional advice, and that’s true! Your conception of privacy may simply be getting away from the default apps and keeping the play store! Just keep that in mind:

If you’re actually gonna do any of the things we consider phone stuff on your phone, in terms of privacy and security it goes graphene > appropriately configured ios > a big gap > everything else.

Maybe consider switching. There isn’t a big cost difference anymore.

Speaking from experience with both android and ios platfoms including many custom roms and the alternative repos/app stores, it’s much, much easier to stay as private and secure as possible on ios.

I’ve gotta recommend GrapheneOS. As you’ve already researched, your apps will still work, even down to company portal which is working on my Graphene’d pixel I’m typing on now.

And I’m sure someone else has commented the same, but yeah, you can revert to stock if you want.

GrapheneOS is the best mobile OS. Even though the Graphene team has weird habits of communication which might be off-putting for some, the OS technically still is the most secure AND most private mobile OS distribution you can have on any phone. It’s literally at the top, according to many technical and data protection experts. It’s so good that Cellebrite can’t crack it even with physical access, and some police in some country (I think it was Portugal) will assume you’re a criminal for using it, because it’s so secure and private and they can’t stand the thought of someone fully utilizing their personal rights. Plus, it has great documentation and is easy to install. Despite it being so secure and private by default, it still allows you to shoot yourself in the foot by installing the sandboxed Google services and so on, if you really want to. So it can also be used like an off-the-shelf Android, just with some additional hardening and extra protections on top which you benefit from, but the benefit will be much smaller of course when you install and use spyware apps.

For privacy/security, there really isn’t another choice: Pixel + GrapheneOS.