• grue@lemmy.world
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      Sure they have, but not since the shift to the 5th party system.

      Conservatives have certainly never made life better for the working class, but Republicans haven’t always been conservative.

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        A couple weeks ago I had a back-and-forth with a conservative poster who staunchly believed that the GOP is still the “Party of Lincoln.” I was telling them how that wasn’t the case anymore, described the fifth party system, explained that the two parties switched views in the mid-20th century. They responded by saying I had been brain-washed by the MSM and calling me a sheep. I hadn’t seen so many emojis in a reply since ~2009, so I shrugged them off as a bot.

        Maybe I gave them the benefit of the doubt a bit too freely.

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      Lincoln

      But that’s why I prefer to call people “conservative” or “liberal” (or “progressive” or “communist” or “libertarian”) instead of by party

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    Thr same fucking people who’d put those Biden “I did that!” stickers at the pump will willingly ignore higher gas prices when their pedophile god-emperor causes it.

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        The video showed several people saying they supported the higher gas prices. That lady was the exception who finally learned that the golden asshole isn’t someone who should be in power. I don’t have high hopes she wouldn’t vote for him again though.

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    i was just talking about this earlier, gas prices are like the ONE thing americans will get upset about. food prices, housing prices, healthcare prices? cost of business

    but if gas prices go up ONE DOLLAR (at 10 gallons/fill, this amounts to a $10 increase, so maybe 30% / $40-50 extra bucks a month if you’re commuting; i wfh so i haven’t done that in 5 years now) people start losing their shit

    it’s insane to me, and i live here

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      When your F250 gets 10mpg and you use it to commute to work it adds up real quick.

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        😭 here i thought i drove piece of shit cars, but i guess my shitty cars are somewhat economical… (i get like 20-25 mpg)

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      Gas and taxes. They’ll happily accept massive price increases on everything else, pay hundreds of dollars extra a month for health insurance, rather than pay a small percentage more in taxes or on gas.

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        Gas prices are symbolic of much more than just the price of gas. It’s the one item that people have to buy multiple times a week, so they automatically keep track of the price, since it is such an integral part of their life. The price is also displayed on big lighted signs all along every roadway. What other consumer item has that much broad public awareness? With that much awareness, gas prices begin to become symbolic for prices in general. When gas prices go up, people instinctually feel like EVERYTHING is going up.

        • Hawke@lemmy.world
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          Who the fuck buys gas multiple times a week??

          I buy gas about once a month, maybe twice if I go on a trip.

          I’d be happiest if gas was $10/gal or more, maybe it would rip this fucking driving fetish out of some folks minds.

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            If you drive every day, you’re probably going to buy gas at least twice a week, especially if you don’t like being too low. Plus, traffic is terrible where I live, and you burn a LOT of gas just sitting.

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              Most vehicles have a fuel tank capacity to give about 300-400 miles range.

              Who is driving 600-800 miles every week? That is insane.

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                A lot of people. Especially those who have to do gig work to make ends meet.

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                It’s common to work fairly far from your home. I have had many jobs in my life with a daily commute of 50 miles or more, sometimes for years. Add to that side trips to the grocery store, or restaurants, or anything else, and it starts to add up.

                I live at the southern tip of my population area. It’s 30 miles or bumper to bumper traffic to get downtown, and I did that commute every day for a while. I even had a job for short time in one of the northern suburbs, and my daily commute was 90 minutes, ONE WAY.

                If you own a home, and you get a new job that’s in the same region, but even farther away, you don’t buy a new home near your job, you just suck it up, and leave earlier for work.

                Going through a 400 miles tank of gas is a normal weekly thing in America, that’s why there are gas stations EVERYWHERE. Many people drive 10,000 miles a year or more. I always average more like 15-20,000 per year, because I drive a LOT for work, enough that I consider myself a professional driver for at least part of my job.

                And then there is cargo shipping by truck. Again, America is a big place, and lots of stuff is shipped by truck, which travel a LOT of miles, and use very expensive diesel fuel. When the price of shipping goes up, EVERYTHING goes up.

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          Multiple times a week? What the fuck is going in the US? Are you people drinking that shit? Does that explain the obesity? Are you for real “multiple times per week” you fill up your cars? What a sorry ass failed nation.
          I talked to my dad about the gas prices. He said he’s only filled up the tank on his car once this year so far and it’s still half full. Me, I don’t even own a car because it’s a dumb waste of money.

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            There’s nothing wrong with being ignorant of the country but being so rude about it at the same time makes you look like a cunt.

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            America is a BIG place, with a lot of miles between cities. Most people in America don’t live near any kind of a decent mass transit system, so they have to own a car to get to work every day. Because we are so spread out, many people have long daily work commutes of an hour or more. 2 income households are extremely common, so each one would need their own vehicle to get to work, and there might even be more cars in a home if they have older teenagers who need a car to get to work or school. A household with multiple cars might burn up a few hundreds miles every day, just going to and from work.

            However, over the last couple of years, cars have become very expensive, both to buy and maintain, and many people are turning to more affordable alternative modes of travel like e-bikes and motorized scooters. Many states and municipalities are wrestling with new restrictions (age, registration, traffic laws) for these new types of transportation. Now that gas prices are exploding, there will be even more of a demand for personal electronic travel devices. Those are good for light travel, like getting to work, but they aren’t very good for serious travel, like long distances, or carrying cargo.

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    “In the long run, it’s going to help us out, because if they get nuclear weapons, you know, we might not even be here in a couple of years. I think that [Trump’s] done a good job,” he said.

    Where do Americans get the idea that Iran gives a single fuck about the US?

    Go look at the history of the nation’s. It’s like Iran just forgets the US exists. Then the US comes along to bully them about something, and Iran’s just, “Why us?”

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      Decades of propaganda and being beat over the head with American exceptionalism and some main character syndrome mixed in.

      A massive amount of the terrible shit America does, if not basically all of it, comes down to the belief a shocking amount of people have that the US is just the fucking protagonist of earth and absolutely anything and everything we do is righteous and just, everyone else hates us because we’re too fucking awesome and cool (literally, one of the main reasons given as to why Iran supposedly would nuke us for no reason is because "they hate our way of life).

      It’s just an absurd amount of deeply broken people, with massive amounts of lead poisoning, just thrashing about as they realize they’ll die soon.

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        comes down to the belief a shocking amount of people have that the US is just the fucking protagonist of earth and absolutely anything and everything we do is righteous and just

        Yeah, that’s it.

        There are so many nations that could use those good intentions. But “they’re not near the Persian Gulf, so fuck 'em.”

        Says a lot about the true intentions of the hero in America’s hero narrative.

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      Where do Americans get the idea that Iran gives a single fuck about the US?

      They may not have before, but they sure will now

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    It’s the unquestioned belief in Trump that beggars belief here in Europe. We have had our own issues with Hitler and most are 2-4 generations later who know where that stupidity takes us.

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      To be fair, Trump has done a lot of super shitty war crimes, but the scale of which does sort of pale in comparison to Hitler. I just pray that it doesn’t have to get that bad in ‘murika before they wake up.

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      yup. it wasnt:

      • 40,000 dead Palestinians
      • 37 felony convictions
      • 2 impeachments
      • illegal tariff costs passed to consumers
      • US citizens shot dead on the streets
      • babies in concentration camps
      • ratfucked federal programs
      • botched war in Iran
      • punishing LGBT persons
      • incarcerating women for miscarriages
      • unhinged outbursts
      • destroying farmer’s livelihoods
      • threatening NATO countries with annexation
      • lawless gustapo roaming wild

      Nope. none of that. It’s when he went to put gas in his Ram pickup that it all hit home.

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        After about the third “You’re Fired”, I never wanted to hear anything from that asshole ever again.

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          I was 18 ish in the late 80s, I saw him on David Letterman. I thought he was a stupid piece of shit, for 30 years I have seen people either talk about how great he is (though it always seemed like the people saying he was great were making fun of him) or about how he scammed people. And every time I think “how fucking stupid can people be”

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      Being racist for decades 👍
      Doing thousands of stupid things during the first term 👍
      Stealing of top secret documents (and attempting to cover it up) 👍
      Insurrection 👍
      34 felony convictions, plus numerous fines and trials for other heinous shit 👍
      Being a rapist of E Jean Carroll, plus numerous other sexual assault court cases 👍
      Grabbing women by the pussy 👍
      Having people murdered on their own streets 👍 and foreigner fishermen in boats 👍 mass illegal deportations to death camps👍 …
      …wait, this is going to take too long.
      Ok, all the Epstein and child rape stuff, and bombing of little brown girls in school and just about everything and anything that most decent people would see as abhorrent 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

      But when the price of fuel goes up then that’s just unforgivable. That is a step too far!!!

    • 🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉@lemmy.world
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      that’s what pisses me off. he’s a fucking asshole, he isn’t a good person for changing his mind.

      he probably got an erection watching ICE terrorize minorities and killing people on the streets, or seeing US bomb girls, or the fact that he’s a Pedophile. no the real problem is when he has to pay a little bit more in gas.