I’d love to have one of these, but I can’t do it at that price. I’ll just keep getting microplastics in me, I suppose…
Did someone test the aeropress and find lots of microplastics?
A few people mentioned it here.
If its a concern, aren’t (e.g.) tupperware and coffee flasks too?
There are no ‘microplastics’ in aero press.
Yes, all plastic food service items are of concern.
*Though the studies on harder plastics have been focused on plasticizers leeching into the food or liquid.
Did someone test the aeropress and find lots of microplastics?
of course not. People read it on Reddit.
I think the idea is that adding boiling water to something made of plastic probably leaches chemicals.
As far as Tupperware and coffee flasks go, yes. This is also a concern.
There’s plenty more research to do about microplastics. I’m sure the plastic aeropress is still significantly better than using soft plastic disposable coffee pods. I’m not a scientist or doctor though so don’t take my word for it.
Micro plastics are a concern with all plastic food containers, especially when you’re heating something in them.
It’s long been a recommendation to not reheat leftovers in plastic
If you instead use glass or stainless, you don’t have to worry about it. Or in theory they last longer
Mocha pot
Oh, everyone is now scared of micro plastics that have been around for 70 years and no lab has yet to find a mechanism for toxicity. Meanwhile, we have been implanting plastic prosthetics, shunts, pacers, etc. for 70 years and there were no issues.
Americans love to be scared. BPA doesn’t give you tits either.
“We’ve been using lead in everything for ages, and everyone is fine!” – You
Science takes time, that’s how consensus works, but there have been eye-opening studies if you have been paying attention.
but there have been eye-opening studies if you have been paying attention.
You picked the wrong guy for this. Junk science in a second rate journal is not eye opening. Correlation is not causation.
"Compared to adjacent non-cancerous tissues, tumor tissues exhibited a greater variety and distribution of microplastics. "
Because cancerous tissue does not have the intact structure of normal tissues. They see all kinds of stuff in tumors that the lymphatic system clears out of healthy tissues. That paper does not show HOW plastic polymers could cause tumors, because no one can show this in 50 years of research.
Again, we have been implanting plastic stents and meshes and prosthetics for 60+ years. The experiment has been done.
Since this thread is looking for something to be afraid of, look at coffee brewing with and without paper filtration. Filtered brews yield caffeine and compounds healthy for liver functions. Unfiltered coffees contain diterpenes, cafestol and kahweol, which signficantly raise total and LDL cholesterol, which is bad. Actual science, not media driven hype fear.
You picked the wrong guy for this.
Everything about micro plastics is about how they are everywhere. With them everywhere you’d expect to see them causing a lot of harm but they’re not. It really looks like the risk is much lower than it is presented
AH man it’s a shame I gave up coffee two years ago cuz of shitty acid reflux!
Now you can aeropress that acid back where it belongs!
I exclusively use the plastic aeropress (3 years or so) and although upgrading to something stainless seems like a nice upgrade I’d want to revisit best brewing methods and make that decision again before spending $150+. I don’t drink coffee every week let alone every month, typically doing week long streaks before taking a break, so this is cool to see but nothing that makes me rush out and upgrade.
There seems to be some haters in the comments for the aeropress, I guess I’d like to know better alternatives for quickly brewing black coffee for one person.
I guess I’d like to know better alternatives for quickly brewing black coffee for one person.
Pour over a paper filter. Cheap and fast.
If you have a source of brew-temperature water handy, such as a water boiler, there’s the quick cuccumella method, which is pretty much drip coffee: Fill the coffee filter of the cuccumella with grounds, fill the water container with hot water, invert the cuccumella, and it drips through in a couple of minutes.
It makes a nice tasting brew: More flavor than an aeropress, but not quite as strong as a moka pot.
French press? Or a freestanding thingy that you put a coffee filter in with a cup underneath for a one cup drip coffee.
I have had an original aeropress for over a decade, and I love it. The fact it’s plastic is my only complaint. I would sooner switch to French press or a pour-over cone than spend $150. Not a chance.
For a mug of coffee:
- French press for steel filtered coffee
- Aeropress for slightly faster steel filtered coffee
- Pour over for paper filtered coffee
- Drip for paper filtered coffee
For a shot
- Espresso machine
For something between
- Mocha pot
Steel filters give more mud in the bottom of the mug, paper filters less. I think the v60 pour over makes the best single or two mugs of coffee
I use a lever espresso machine at home, the v60 is for travelling, French press in the office
Big aeropress, glass aeropress, now metal aeropress! What’s next? Gotta diversify that product line for maximum profits!
(Disclaimer: long time plastic aeropress user here. 😊)
Since Lemmy is into junk science fear…Here’s a peer-reviewed study showing stainless steel leeches nickel and chromium toxic metals into food.
The tenth cooking cycle (after 20 hours), resulted in an average of 88 μg of (nickel) Ni and 86 μg of (chromium) Cr leached per 126 g serving of tomato sauce.
#1 If you’re cooking tomato sauce for 20 hours, you’re doing it wrong.
Adults in the U.S. are estimated to ingest an average of 69 to 162 μg of Ni per day
The average daily intake of chromium in the US population has been estimated at 76 μg while the US FDA recommended daily intake is 120 μg Cr
#2 Even after cooking tomato sauce for 20 hours, the leached amounts were within the daily average intake or recommended daily intake for both nickel and chromium.
Trials included three types of stainless steels and a stainless steel saucepan; cooking times of 2 to 20 hours
Thats a bit longer than I usually brew my coffee! I use a glass French press though.
having a choice between this and microplastics is what makes capitalism so great!
man, the preheating you’ll have to do with this…
I was thinking about that too, but I have a stainless steel vacuum insulated french press, and I never preheat it.
the vacuum probably does a lot there.
The APSS says it’s vacuum insulated too, but we’ll have to see how well it works.
oh yeah so it does.
it has to be, otherwise the metal will cool the water down and coffee will taste like shit.
You guys still using water to make coffee? Water can drown at high amounts!
No. That doesn’t change the fact that the metal has a higher specific heat capacity than plastic. The vacuum only makes it so that, once it’s hot, it stays hot longer. That’s not really useful here as it shouldn’t be staying in the aeropress for that long, where it matters. It may actually make it worse, because you’ll need thicker walls, and two of them, increasing the mass that you have to heat.
However, I think the “perfect” heat to brew with is slightly below boiling, so if you just use boiling water then the heat loss is probably fine. Still though, you’re paying a premium for what is functionally a downgrade.
you’re paying a premium for what is functionally a downgrade.
This is business. Cash in on simps who believe in myths.
Well now we won’t have microplastics to add body to our brews.
An eye watering $169, but hey it’s finally here.
Slightly cheaper than the $199 stupidly breakable glass Premium.
Thats silly money.
The charm of the AP is that it’s cheap and you can just lob it in your camping bag.
Speaking of packing for camping, the website doesn’t say how much this new stainless steel version weighs, although I can’t imagine it’s too much heavier than the original plastic.
I think it will be substantially heavier!
No thermal insulation also a big minus in my eyes.Missed the vacuum insulation part…They need to vacuum insulate because heat conductive metal would be a stupid choice of material, as opposed to glass or plastic.
Way too much for what it is. Just use a mocha pot
The whole 👉 was a cheap easy coffee maker.
They are cashing in on the microplastics fad. Simps are so easy to sell to.
I’ve never used one, is the breakable nature of the glass version a result of heat cycles or just because it’ll crack if you knock it by accident?
Just the glass
When I was more likely to have hangovers, my French presses had the habit of choosing that time to leap off the counter and shatter. The plastic Aeropress could survive a drop in just about any kitchen scenario and well beyond.
One of the big selling features of the AP was its portability, i.e. you could throw it in your luggage, and durability.
The glass Premium cancelled those features and was panned for it.
I can imagine people using the inversion method, which would put the glass part teetering on top while full of hot water while brewing. That would easily tip over, shatter, and cause unhappy customers.
The inverted method is a bad idea with any version of the AP, the risk of shattering the fancy glass one could be a good deterrent to stop doing it ;D
it’s breakable compared to the $20 plastic original, which is basically nuke proof.
But it somehow makes microplastics no one can see but everyone believes in. Christianity is envious of microplastics.
what the fuck? the original aeropress is famously not BPA-free.
what the fuck? the original aeropress is famously not BPA-free.
oh right the other junk science scare from the early 2000s, based on ONE mouse study where they injected insane amounts of BPA in muscle tissue, then follow ups with more junk science.
Let’s learn something today: Bisphenol A was actually created by a german pharmacuetical lab trying to make a synthetic hormone. In 1891, and it was revisited many times until the 1930s and considered a failure. It never showed estrogenic properties. Eventually, it ended up as an additive to plastics. The amount shown to be estrogenic in a mouse muscle, after injection, would be impossible for a human to consume in 10 lifetimes. This plagues most of the estrogenic research published.
But selling fear sells media. So no, BPA will not give you tits.
Now Aeropresses contain “microplastics”, despite no evidence they actually do.
Another example of people believing bad science was the banning of DDT. One ecologists faked data about bird populations and linked it the use of DDT, so everyone banned it. Millions died of malaria as a result.
nice sources.
Where’s my V60 gang? We take the aeropress camping, but I like the simplicity of the V60 at home
I’ve been thinking of switching from my usual French press method to a V60, seems simpler for one cup.
Have you looked into reusable filters at all or do you use the good ole paper cone?
$170 (assuming USD). And their cookie prompt is broken, forcing you to accept their trackerware.
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How do I use the numbers on the outside?
They address this in the FAQ:
The number markings are a recognizable part of the AeroPress design and, by including them on Steel, we’re protecting our trademark. To help with fill guidance, the inside of the chamber includes a laser-etched mark at the 5 level that can be seen from above.
“Protecting trademark”
Wow that’s the stupidest thing I’ve read in a while. Also very American (no offense intended)
I’m open to change my mind, but at a glance the plastic one seems better in many ways.
Ok this is really funny. 😂
I don’t use the numbers at all. I do inverted, and pull the plunger until it’s barely in the cylinder, and fill it from there.
That makes just enough coffee for a standard 10oz mug.
Do people think that the Aeropress is the ultimate coffee maker? Because if not, why pay the premium? I have one as well and I love it for the 20€ it costs me. For 170€ you could get a decent filter machine. Do people not Google for alternatives?
You can’t google for alternatives, but you can aliexpress or temu for them.
Some people prefer Aeropress, but would like to drink it without microplastics.
Isn’t the rubber lid under the highest mechanical stress? What material did they choose there to avoid plastics?
Not a specialist, but I guess that friction would rub off microplastics both from the lid and the main part, and of the main part is metal, it eliminates that part at least.
And, the mystery plastic would some how get past the paper filter (micro cellulose!).
Aero presses don’t wear out.
This thread is giving me microplastics.
Don’t type on your keyboard! Microplastics! Ahhhh!
It’s all just personal preference, but yes, many people do think it’s the best way to brew coffee. Some people think it gives you microplastics, but it can’t be substantial. If it were substantial you’d see your aeropress wearing away. Washing after your done should keep the amount low, if it were measurable at all.
If it were substantial you’d see your aeropress wearing away.
Exactly. People want to be afraid. That’s what the internet is good at.
You don’t need to see wear marks. Microwaving food in plastic containers is enough to cause contamination. Likely the same when filling with hot water; although, haven’t seen studies specifically focused on that, I don’t think the thicker walls will do much to limit contamination. This is also not considering the plunger.
If aero press gave anyone microplastics, which no one even knows what that is, then they would wear out. I’ve had one in daily use for 15 years.
Microplastics are Reddit fear.
Now I wonder in what kind of packaging these people buy their coffee. And how they filter their water…
An aeropress is quite a bit more portable than anything bulky and electric.
But the water filter and kettle aren’t. I get that it is a niche thing but someone who affords a 170 stainless tube probably doesn’t have an issue like this.
But what about nickel poisoning from the steel alloy! Run!
The filter machine at that price got plastic?
Yes, it looks like I underestimated how much people want to avoid having their food touch plastics. I would get a really nice ceramic poor over for half that price though.
True, I’ve got a nice ceramic hario but I do have to say aeropress is a bit different and more versatile.
The company that took over Aeropress is out of touch to say the least. It’s a shame they fucked up the product. I really like my old plastic one. Fuck the corpo shit stains who are only motivated by profit.
Maybe I could just find two bits of steel pipe and weld some bits on it. 🤔
There are better options available for under $170 USD.
I am open to suggestions!
