No warning, not even a “Don’t do it again email” - I had a work account, that was logged in on my works laptop, I made a comment critical of Netanyahu, and the Gaza genocide, which got that account banned from /pics. This was months ago, then I made a comment on pics, on my main account. That’s it, gone, banned.
I even have another spare account, from 2008, logged in to that, that’s banned too. FFS!
No luck on appeals, so I guess no more reddit, ever again. Anyone managed to get around this?
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Welcome 🤗, to your new online community
for… ever?
danny’s not here mrs torrance
I read somewhere that tony might have been future (adult) Danny trying to warn his younger self.
they ban your digital fingerprint, not just your ip. the only way to go back is make a new account on a different device/browser and never log into that new account from your old device
but do you really want to go back?
i also had multiple accounts (main acct was 14 yrs old) banned for hurting conservative fee fees. don’t miss it one bit
Yes and no, I guess, I don’t know… I used it every day for almost 20 yrs, It became part of my daily routine. I’m really liking it here though, it feels way less ‘shouting into the void’ and more inclusive, kinda like early reddit.
the fingerprinting is pretty extensive, your browser size, screen resolution, computer components,etc. it would have to be a new device, IP,a nd different browser, and or long term success requires you to use paid methods.
it feels way less ‘shouting into the void’
Very much so.
Two things killed Reddit for me.
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Bot bans for basically everything.
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Over-saturated to the point that your comments almost never get interacted with. So…what’s the point?
Same here! I used to leave comments in the early days of Reddit, but then it became clear that many posts I was replying to were just karma farming or bots.
Seeing that made me just stopped using it as anything other than a content aggregator, and only through the 3rd party apps.
When they basically killed API access I moved here. It doesn’t have the niche communities that are on Reddit, but when I need information from those I just search it up.
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Welcome to the fediverse! I too have had my IP permabanned from reddit for hurting conservative feefees.
I really hope you deleted every activity on your 14 year old account because reddit will hold on to your data (even if you delete your account), sell it, and use it to train their AI. Something which they got from you for free while denying you access to their services after you committed time (14 fucking years), paid internet and all that. I wish every single user they permabanned did this. Reddit would collapse in less than one week
i used an auto app that went in and edited the comments to be random word gibberish
it took like a week
Poison the data. Love it
some mods hate those auto gibberators, so i got notifications from some subs that they deleted those comments and banned me from the sub–on my site-wide banned account lol
“some” not all. Use it for the ones that work. For the ones that do not allow, you may manually delete your comments or replace them with random single words so it overwrites whatever backups they have.
In a war of man vs machine, Man always wins
they ban your digital fingerprint, not just your ip.
I only use Reddit at work on my work desktop. Over the last handful of years I’ve gone through a shit ton of Reddit accounts, but they last weeks/months until I say one of the many, many things you can get bot banned for on Reddit, which I inevitably do, because I am not nice to fascists and I don’t care if I get banned for being mean to fascists.
So I’m not sure about the IP thing.
I’m statically assigned an internal IP, so that never changes. And my public IP should also remain the same for weeks/months as far as I know.
It would be interesting to have a network admin’s thoughts on this. Am I somehow being assigned a new public IP on a daily basis? That’s handled on the ISP’s side. Does my workplace have an agreement with the ISP to change public IP’s every day? Cuz sometimes I only make it a day or two before telling a fascist the only good fascist is a dead one and getting banned.
I use the Brave browser and only use private windows. When I’m banned I clear the browser, making sure everything, including cookies, are wiped. I re-open the browser in a private window, create a new throwaway email account, use it to create a new Reddit account, and I’m back in until, like you, I hurt conservative fee fees.
I always thought an IP ban would be bad for their business cuz then one person could get a multi-user computer banned and Reddit would lose users that way. Not that I would put it past Reddit to make bad decisions. I’ve been watching them do it for almost two decades now.
Network admin here, your internal IPv4 address doesn’t matter, external people don’t see it. Your work likely has a static block of external IPv4 addresses and it’s possible that they are rotated through over time so your effective external IP changes slowly. This depends on how big your work organization is and how your network admin set things up
But could it be rotating external addresses literally every day or two?
Like I said, I only make it a day or two with some of these accounts before I say something I typically know will get me banned and I just don’t care. Then I’m back in with my new account. It’s fully functional. I check to make sure I’m not shadowbanned. I get activity on my posts. And those accounts can be good for months.
I just don’t see how Reddit can be IP banning if I’m able to do this.
Yes. It’s Port Address Translation with a pool of external IPv4 addresses
Interesting. It’s an extension of NAT.
So you would have to purchase a pool of external IP addresses from your ISP?
So, technically, if you had PAT on your home router, which I’m not even sure is a thing, and purchased external IPs from your ISP, you could cheat Reddit’s IP ban, assuming they actually have an IP ban in place?
But regular external IPs get cycled every few weeks/months, right? So wouldn’t anyone with a Reddit IP ban be able to get back in with a new account once their external IP naturally cycles?
I mean if Reddit banned based on more than IP, like my computer’s MAC address, then any new account I created would be insta-banned for having the same MAC. I’ve been using this same computer for a few years now.
MACs are not seen by Reddit - that’s layer 2 info that only your ISP sees. All they see is your external IP. Most home users don’t have a static IP or static pool and can likely get a new IP - that’s called a dynamic IP. As to your point about IP ban evasion, they are used to home users having dynamic IPs so they probably don’t depend on IP bans at all - likely client fingerprinting (cookies, user-agent string, other browser identifiers) and usage, like what subreddits you go to
Do you need a new IP/ISP too?
I got perma banned, but then they lifted it once they started losing users. 😂
Fuck em with a rusty shovel. I only keep it to read posts about solving certain problems.
19 years.Sorry to hear that. Makes my 3 year account loss bearable. I could go back there but I made a Mastadon and a Bluesky and now a Lemmy.I did a reasonable job of protecting my home IP so I can make another account but I don’t care to make the effort. The no private message thing was pretty vile and having to keep an ad blocker active made it bearable. Like a bird being cast out of the nest Its best sometimes to move on. 19 years of your data is enough. Sorry for your loss
i made multiple accounts over the years to spread out the niche and liability of the bans, but with thier AI moderation they jus ttook out all my 1-11yo acccounts, multiples. one of the last account survived temperorily, apparently due to a bug/glitch when it asks you to change your password(they use this to fish people out so they can ban them)
This was a good tactic if you made one make 4 or 5 just in case. I kept only one and when they play the game ‘‘suspicious activty’’ change your password and then they dont send the password email then…you know whats up.
Yea, I lost my 15 year old account last year. Started a new one and it just wasn’t the same. Left a few months ago for here, still not the same, but better then reddit.
There is something going on there and I suspect that there is a real effort underway to tie peoples identity to a reddit account. They want a real email or a phone number and if you are denying them this and protective of your data they are getting not a lot from you. They read your private messages and are basically data mining the hell out of everything. Culling long time members seems to be a thing and for specious or no real reason? I would like to think that me blocking all ads and blocking my IP and using an anonymous email annoyed them. I supported Palestine and reminded people about the death of Rachel Corrie so that probably helped. Karma was good 17,000 and 39000 post and comment so I have only two words for Reddit Admins…and they are See Ya!
reddit is pretty much in cahoots with GOOgle have you notice how closely they are entertwined. GOOGLE promotes reddit posts instantly to the top, no secret. plus reddit uses googles AI system i believe too, reddit allows google to scrape the site, also thier anti-botting system, captcha v3 is invisible bot checking system, which apparently triggers the v2, if it doesnt trust you.
reddit also recently made user history, hide-able, so you cant tell if someone is a bot by looking at a evidence of thier comment history.
I regularly purged my comment and post history and before I deleted it I overwrote my comment history with fuck u/spez then deleted and deleted my account.
Maybe they only want people who don’t make waves, stick to pun chains, innocuous comments, etc. Things like news subs though are full of angry rants so I’m not sure.
a read only site like FACEBOOK, they just want people browsing.
I met Steve, Alexis, and Aaron when the site was housed in Steve’s Somerville apartment. They used to throw meetups in Davis Square. This was in 2007-08, before the Digg migration.
Reddit is nothing like it was then, nor are the founders recognizable compared to what I saw all those years ago. I’m not banned, but then I rarely go there any more. Lemmy isn’t very good, but Reddit is a dumpster fire.
reddit is mostly bots now anyways.
Why do you want to get around it? Reddit is last decade. Time to move on.
Agreed. Yesterday I finally got around to deleting my three Reddit accounts that were 9-10 years old (hadn’t used them in a couple years). First I made sure to overwrite most of my comments with gibberish. Reddit is basically Facebook now.
The only thing I miss Reddit for are the Guitar forums. It was a really great place to interact with great guitarists, advise and support young players, show off your instruments, etc. Very supportive and informative, and I miss it.
“Anyone managed to get around this?”
Nope. They banned all my accounts. Even ones I never post with.
Thing is. I moved recently and got a new computer.
Never even accessed these 3 alternatives on my current PC or IP to link them to the banned one.
But they had been used on same PC and IP like 5 years ago.
So that means they keep that info. Also my alt accounts were only banned a few months ago but my main one was banned 1 year ago.
I just happened to try to use an alt a few months ago and found it was also now banned and so were 2 others I haven’t used in about 5 years.
I can’t see how they can be sure this is the same person. Unless Reddit is linked to some other site and when you log in there, Reddit knows because you gave them your email.
This is one of the reasons I hate Discord. I made an account ten years ago and forgot about it. In the meantime I built a new computer with completely new parts, fresh install of Windows. Then a few years later someone wanted me to join Discord and when I went to make an account, I was already signed in with this old account I’d forgotten about! It really freaked me out. The best I can figure is that gmail is linked to it so since I’m constantly logged in to gmail/YT, I was automatically signed in to Discord when I went back. I hate that creepy crap with a passion. Discord has some bad mojo voodoo going on.
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I just went back to Discord. First time in years. And it knows who I am! Oh god yuck.
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It’s definitely Gmail/YT. I just went there using Firefox and Discord doesn’t know me.
I had different emails for all those accounts. On some reddit info page it says it uses “current” Ip address and device screen resolution info to link accounts to each other.
I think that might be a lie. They have to be keeping at least 5 years of data . Maybe even older.
I also change my IP address all the time.
They must be tracking some other identifying info. Like device sign in name (Google account/windows login) or something.
I don’t know but I was very surprised they found all my accounts so easily and banned them all.
You said those old accounts hadn’t been used ever or in a long time didn’t you? IIRC, a year or so ago, I think they went through and banned unused/dead accounts to prevent account selling and hacking. So that could be unrelated to the recent ban.
Me too, because I made a joke about “If he just hadn’t missed” - a hate post about trump = perma bann for life. Fuck reddit, never been looking bad. Lemmy.world was actually a solid solution.
Yeah happened to me. Got temp banned for trash talking, then went on an alt and then got perma’d. It is what it is but I spend much less time on there as a result. Win win?
as soon as you temp ban, any new account they consider is ban evasion. originally you could make a new account(hopefully before you were banned) and let it simmer to give the account age(to avoid reddits "ant-new account botting) then you can begin posting. but they look at everything now.
I got banned after 12 years for saying “kill” in the context of a cat hunting for food. I appealed it and immediately got a denial. They said the decision wasn’t made by a bot which means a human just straight up didn’t read the comment that got me banned.
As for getting around it, it takes more effort than it’s worth. They use multiple levels to enforce their bans. Beyond just an IP ban, they can see what device you’re on, pixel counts of your screen, browser cache, basically your whole digital fingerprint. It’s actually pretty terrifying how much information about you a website can get.
Even if you manage to evade all the technical stuff, the site can track which subs you might subscribe to, your interaction patterns, how you “talk” in comments, they got a whole profile on you. Your best bet of getting around the ban is to get a new device and move to another state. Even then if you join multiple niche subs that your old account was subbed to they’ll figure you out.
If you do it right, and clear all your cookies and caches and other identifiers you can use an anti-tracking browser like GoLogin, but most of those are subscription based and you’ll have to run through a VPN and make sure you don’t log in on a normal browser on accident.
Using the reddit app on your phone is out of the equation entirely.
Lemmy is a much better alternative, but there aren’t a lot of people here. Hopefully reddit continues forcing their users off their platform so the population here gets bigger.
Huh. I’ve never got pinched for ban-evasion before despite very regularly using alts to comment in subs where I had previously been banned. I don’t honor perma-bans on principle because I think they’re ridiculous, but I do self-impose a 30-day ban to let things cool down a bit and avoid attracting suspicion.
Not sure what my secret sauce was, but it was never an issue for me over the 15 or so years I used Reddit.
That said, I’d take this as an opportunity to just stop using Reddit altogether.
15 years isn’t the issue, it’s only since January 2025 that there has been an issue. Reddit is OFFICIALLY a mouthpiece for MAGA and the Conservative Propaganda Machine.
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It did start having a very “dead internet theory” vibe to it.
Na, apparently they do have the ability to track who and where you make accounts.
I’ve similarly made efforts to discuss and condemn the brutal genocide in Gaza on reddit and found myself with a perma-ban.
I’m only going to hazard a guess, but somehow reddit knows which devices your accounts have previously been logged in on, and will automatically ban your new account after 1 day.
I’ve tried using VPNs, virtualized desktops, different devices, made accounts on devices that I have never logged in on, but then when I use the new account on my regular device, it gets banned.
Spez got a taste of that good Israeli money and now outright bans users for questioning or criticizing the Zionist machine. Welcome to the weaponization of the greatest tool humanity ever created - the Internet.
They are actually precise enough that my brother never got banned, despite living in the same household. How, I don’t fucking know.
SImilar way Iranian generals where tracked and executed. Best to stop using reddit altogether. I mean that website is filled with AI regurgitating trash posts and content to attract young human users
Your secret sauce is you probably live in a country where your ISP does not snitch on you.
It’s probably the lying low for 30 days. In the 2000s and 2010s, I ran various websites and the hit counters I used would give me, for each visitor, the browser they used, the operating system, the screen resolution, the IP address, the city and state they were in, the internet provider company they were using like Xfinity, and whether they were a new user or not. If the person cleared their cookies or came back after the cookies expired then they appeared as a new visitor. If this info was tied to usernames and emails, it’d be easy to kinda figure out who is who. But not if not if they’d been gone for a while.
Also, I can’t remember exactly if this one company had it’s own IP or it was it’s own internet provider, but I do remember I could spot my ex-girlfriend looking at my sites while she was at work because she worked for this company and it would show up as part of the info. She got weirded out when I asked her why she was visiting my sites at work.
You can’t get around the bans. They move heaven and earth to fingerprint you.
Don’t worry about it. Many of us are in the same boat. I actually think reddit doesn’t want human users anymore. They want to be a bot-only outfit.
That’s what I don’t understand: why go so much out of your way to spite an user just because they broke some rule?
At the rate they are going they’ll end up with no one left except for bots.
there is a way, but likely it will cost money, as you need a new device, browser, and IP. its only worth it if your advertising on reddit(that reddit doesnt take a cut), maybe OF people, but people want to advert or direct to thier own business will have hordes of accounts and a way to “look like normal users” with niche proxies and anti-detection browsers.
Those are easy. Use Firefox with tracking ptotection set to strict, Jshelter set to little lies on canvas and audio, time precision protection set to high, and use mobile data.
Same happened to me, an 11 year user. I wasn’t even evading a ban and I got permabanned:
After reviewing,…we found that you broke Rule 1 because you encouraged or glorified violence or physical harm. Reddit is a place for creating community and belonging, not for encouraging violence against people or animals. We don’t tolerate any behavior that encourages, glorifies, incites, or calls for violence or physical harm against an individual, groups of people, places, or animals. Any communities or people that encourage or incite violence towards an individual, group, animals, or place will be banned.
They then told me the content they banned me for was “scrubbed” and then they provided a link to said content which was, or course, blank. So, I couldn’t even see what they banned me for. I asked them to provide the text I got banned for but they only gave a canned response. I then appealed. Practically instant denial. Fuck them. The entire ten+ years I was on reddit I saw incel, gamergate, MAGA chuds posting comments way more violent than anything I ever posted. They are still there, doing the same. I wish I could spend a few minutes in the presence of both the mod and the admin that silenced me like that.
There are ways around a ban, but it really isn’t worth the trouble and you can still get banned even after that if you are not always careful. Do a web search…“they” practically walk you through the application you will need to get and how to set up everything so their fascist fingerprint algos can’t connect you back to the banned accounts. Just making sure your browser, computer, and external, visible IP is different is nowhere near enough to avoid a (re)ban.
As someone else mentioned, I can still log in, read my old posts, browse, sub and unsub, but can’t ever comment, message, or report anything. Strangely enough (and I think this is a mistake on their part) I can still up and down vote posts.
The only thing I really miss (and I despise Reddit because of it) is that I cannot post to ask questions or for help in my local city/state subreddits.
Reddit really needs a great alternative. Lets see how Lemmy does in this regard.
I already got banned from a group on one of the lemmy feds. Guess I didn’t agree with the echo chamber but since I couldn’t see the offending comment I have no idea. I just abandoned the fed, fuck 'em.
If people would start posting more pictures of their pit bulls and just pets in general lemmy could be a fucking eutopia
Petopia
