Windows hit its lowest market share in decades, Microsoft lost $400 billion in a week, and now their own president is admitting they need to fix the OS. SteamOS and Linux aren’t waiting around.

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      7 months ago

      This has always been Linux’s barrier to entry, that smug attitude of “you’ve just got to learn it”. The majority of people don’t want to learn new things, the vast majority definitely don’t want to learn how to use a terminal.

      There are some good low barrier distributions out there, but not many that “just work” for a user who uses their PC for multiple tasks.

      Like SteamOS is wonderful if you’re just a gamer, valve has cracked that and made the UI nice and simple, but if you leave steam and launch the desktop it gets very complex very quickly. Hopefully valve continues to improve that experience.

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        Mint works reasonably well out of the box, but there are always edge cases (weird hardware/missing drivers) that can throw a spanner into the works. Hopefully as Linux becomes more widely used, we’ll see hardware manufacturers release drivers and keep them up-to-date like they do with windows and Mac.

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      Not without proper insurance.

      I’ve been using Linux since 93 and I love it. I’m confident enough to support my family’s machines, but there’s no way I’d offer more than basic advice to a stranger, let alone a group of them.

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    It would be nice if this served as a pointed lesson to stop putting useless, unwanted, invasive features and AI into things. Or at least to make them work.

    Bread and circuses. It’s not complicated.

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    Microsoft has been built on a 40 year old tech monopoly under which is has fully leveraged abusive anti-consumer and anti-user tactics that have kept it there. It’s amazing they have lasted this long while accreting so much hate. This greed, their creepy starry-eyed cult-like adoption of LLMs, and the destruction of user trust by the outright THEFT of user data will be their downfall. You simply cannot vibe code a good operating system.

    Watching one of the largest corporations ever conceived BEG users to use OneDrive and Edge, then surreptitiously change settings and install software to make it so is mind boggling. They simply cannot STAND that you won’t let them train models on your data, glowing bright green with envy at Google and Apple’s closed hardware systems.

    I’ll say it again and again, I would have happily paid for Windows 10, but they gave it away for free, then marched an unwilling user base to 11 only for it to be the worst OS since Windows Vista. Extreme wealth breeds insanity.

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      Windows 11 was just supposed to be Windows 10 with just an UI change and some more features, but with the slop code it’s become extremely annoying.

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      The day they killed off Windows Phone is they day I knew that there were no more devs left in the c-suite and that they were on a slow path to spinning off what’s left of their profitability.

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          You are completely right. That will be true until Linux is proven to have enough utility and be able to run enough the software end users need. Active directory is killer, but there are alternatives.

          It’s a shame Novell is circling the drain, as it does have the ability to manage Windows and Linux machines in a similar network. If Microsoft fucks up hard enough and the opportunity is there, we might see an exodus. European governments are supposedly pioneering this now.

          I’m aware this is still incredibly improbable, but the possibility is growing.

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        My switch to Linux has been so easy. I’m not some high end IT guy. If you can install windows from a USB, you can install Linux.

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          Yeah, it’s super simple.

          I’m selling a pile of computers I bought off auction. People are choosing Fedora over Windows 60% of the time.

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            I just installed kubuntu on a couple of 4th gen Microsoft surfaces rather than upgrade to win11. I needed to install a little extra for the touch screen but it was easy to find and easy to do.

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              Surface 4 sucks on w11. Mint is also a great choice. That’s what I’m using on mine at home. My only complaint is hardware, either the battery is finally falling or it has weird parasitic draw.

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                My battery died years ago so that’s no thing for me. It’s a bed and shed laptop, I’ve got mains power in both those places.

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      You simply cannot vibe code a good operating system.

      Hell, they weren’t doing too well before that, either. The whole creepy “we know better” vibe was pretty noticeable before the advent of LLMs too - although of course it’s made it a ton worse. But they were always inept and douchy to boot.

      As the joke goes, “Do you think Microsoft understands consent? Yes / Maybe yes later”

      (Personally I think 11 is way worse than Vista - in isolation, relative to the previous one, morally, somehow UX wise, pretty much any metric you want.)

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        I have to agree. Vista was a dud, but there were a number of legitimate improvements made over Windows XP. Windows 11 is just a worse Windows 10. Other than maybe tabs in the Explorer, I can’t think of anything they’ve improved and a whole lot they made worse.

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          Exactly. Vista was rushed and buggy but that’s, y’know, par for the course really. I think there was a time in the 00’s where they really wanted to be extremely optimistic about Moore’s law-style performance gains, and for some reason they thought they could aim ahead of the curve. Cue Vista actually running like dogshit even aside from outright crashes and such.

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    Their stock seems to be doing a bit of a freefall lately: image

    Its still pretty high compared to just 5 years ago. But investors look to leverage future positions. So its interesting its occurring at such a quick rate.

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      I think a lot of EFT type investments are going to be divesting from AI-Bubble stocks over the next while.

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      This isn’t because windows sucks, this is all the recoil from AI. MS invested over $13b in openai and holds about a quarter of the company.

      Windows doesn’t make enough money for Microsoft to seriously care about it, their baby now is Azure.

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      The title says “Windows is fallimg apart”, but I hope Microsoft is falling apart as well.

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          Lol they will just remove ai and call it win 12. Coworkers of mine were joking the best windows will be the linux kernel with windows on top. Inverse wsl.

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    No wait! C’mon! Please! Write something in word! Ask copilot questions! Please! Just a few more weeks of stealing all your data! We’ll keep it safe! We promise! Oh but we have to let you know there has been a breach…now your screen is blue -here’s a completely useless code that you can input on your Linux PC to fix our shitty PC software!

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    Try their cloud services, they’re hilariously buggy and bad. I’m forced to use it daily, still, and gooooddd it’s so bad. Not an hour passes without at least multiple bugs.

    They have no QA, there is no way

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      I used to work mostly with AWS and didn’t realise how good we had it. Then the company merged and we’re getting Azure contracts out the ass.

      So many services work fine and look great when demoing them, but the moment you try to use them for anything but the most basic usecases they start buckling and ripping at the seams.

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      I don’t have as many issues with SharePoint and OneDrive anymore, but I feel like a tool after windows runs updates and breaks shit that I have to tell users to reboot to fix it. Daily. If you don’t reboot once a week, windows actively starts fucking your shit up, and just plain stops working properly. Fucking hate it. Its such a pile of flaming shit.

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    I always call it Microhard since I discovered Billy Goats is another good friend of King Joffrey Epstein.

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    Last October my work PC was “upgraded” to windows 11… All the menus are wrong, nothing works like it should, and it keeps trying to get me to poison the air by using copilot. At home I use Linux Mint and it’s amazing. The only thing I’ve tried to do on Mint that it wouldn’t do is play one video game I have called Cosmoteer. Which is strange because I have a lot more complex programs and games that run fine.

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      You might be able to downgrade to windows 10 and get extra security updates until October. I’ve been lazy and have continued using my old windows install using the outdated file structure, so Windows said I was ineligible to upgrade to 11 and gave it to me for free.

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        You might be able to downgrade to windows 10

        Since OP’s laptop is a work laptop, in general those are managed by their internal IT services, and thus OP will not have a choice on how upgrades are done/updates sent out. And don’t even think about manually downgrading… if IT is even half competent, they’ll see that.

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      Mint has been all i have run since the end of last year. Only thing i had to open windows for was ableton live, i cant get it to install in any wine emulator i have tried. I followed guides but nothing has worked so far.

      Otherwise i love using it and everything else works. Mostly out of the box.

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      We need some bored individual to put up a leaderboard of sorts. We’ve all been seeing some real stunning moves in the game of “wreck this immortal golden god of a company” - too much to keep up with honestly, these dorks are just as impactful as they always imagined! Who knew.

      We’re over here watching the fucking Olympics of ignorant greedy douchery and we never even had medals made 😩

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      They may. No one has ever made a financial bubble this big. They could totally dump everything into AI and then some. Maybe something absolutely brain dead like buy hardware with a 3 year lifespan by issuing a 100 year bond

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        In case no one caught your reference that indeed, Google issued a hundred year bond for this bubble build out. Which is of course crazy as either it pops and is a waste, or continues and they need to issue more debt with 97 years left on the bond they already issued…

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    Windows for me is a battle these days. I have linux machines I check once every week or two unless I get a email from them. I have to constantly check all of my deployed windows machines to make sure co pilot hasn’t snuck back in. Microsoft has no respect for privacy at all. This isn’t a new development but now they just can’t be bothered to pretend anymore.