We have streets and buildinga named after a known fascist dictator in Greece who privately complained that Hitler didn’t ask him to join the axis. This proves nothing except that time and war fog glorifies figures that don’t always deserve it. This is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about. Purposefully disregard all nuance to paint a narrative.
We have streets and buildinga named after a known fascist dictator in Greece […] This proves nothing except that time and war fog glorifies figures that don’t always deserve it.
It proves there is a sizeable contingent in Greece that idolizes fascists and has enough institutional power to express that idolatry, and that there is not enough pushback in the rest of the culture to oppose that openly fascist expression. All of which is deeply worrisome and none of which negates the fact that there is likewise rampant Neo-naziism in Ukraine and that it has tremendous institutional and military power.
streets re-named after a fascist mass murderer, yes. so if the germans suddenly started renaming streets after adolf hitler, you’d dismiss that too. nothing to see here.
Bandera was also a national liberation actor. One person who understands nuance could usually understand that national liberation actors tend to be lionized and their misdeeds trivialized. It happens constantly. Campists don’t have a problem with mass murderers like Bandera, or Assad, or, Putin, they only have a problem when they’re not in their camp.
And for a national liberation actor, Bandera is receiving comparatively little praise, especially from the current government.
This line of reasoning is therefore purposefully simplistic to paint a narrative, while of course ignoring the rampart fascism in the Russian aggressor who would of course impose a much worse form of fascism over Ukraine
We have streets and buildinga named after a known fascist dictator in Greece who privately complained that Hitler didn’t ask him to join the axis. This proves nothing except that time and war fog glorifies figures that don’t always deserve it. This is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about. Purposefully disregard all nuance to paint a narrative.
It proves there is a sizeable contingent in Greece that idolizes fascists and has enough institutional power to express that idolatry, and that there is not enough pushback in the rest of the culture to oppose that openly fascist expression. All of which is deeply worrisome and none of which negates the fact that there is likewise rampant Neo-naziism in Ukraine and that it has tremendous institutional and military power.
Before we continue; do you know anything about Greece, or even which dictator I’m talking about?
a lot of these were renamed after bandera recently, which shows that banderite ideology has full state backing, but sure, it’s just a few bad apples.
Yes the amazing proof of rampart fascism that is, <check notes>, street names…
streets re-named after a fascist mass murderer, yes. so if the germans suddenly started renaming streets after adolf hitler, you’d dismiss that too. nothing to see here.
Sure That’s totally the same thing /s
what’s the difference then? that bandera was less successful? that’s it?
Bandera was also a national liberation actor. One person who understands nuance could usually understand that national liberation actors tend to be lionized and their misdeeds trivialized. It happens constantly. Campists don’t have a problem with mass murderers like Bandera, or Assad, or, Putin, they only have a problem when they’re not in their camp.
And for a national liberation actor, Bandera is receiving comparatively little praise, especially from the current government.
This line of reasoning is therefore purposefully simplistic to paint a narrative, while of course ignoring the rampart fascism in the Russian aggressor who would of course impose a much worse form of fascism over Ukraine
This chain of argument perfectly proves my point
national liberation is when you collaborate with the genocidal nazis to murder jews and poles. got it.
Pithy sarcasm in the face of nuance doesn’t change opinions