Pink Floyd.
Some of their music is nice to listen to. Some of it is catchy. Most of it is just boring.
THIS ONE RIGHT HERE! GET’EM UP AGAINST THE WALL!
If any band has enough fans to have a “fandom”, they deserve it. You still never have to listen to them or buy their music and that is fine as well. Anyone who names a band they dislike, probably has one they like that others on here hate. Big deal. Everyone has their own taste. All hype is, well, hype. It is all manufactured.
Sex Pistols. Don’t get me wrong I like them, but they were children who made one album and were barely a band for a year. Their hype really comes down to the story of Sid and Nancy’s deaths.
Weren’t they a manufacturend boy band also? I think I read that somewhere
My understanding is that it was a more or less some kids that hung out at the same stores in a mall.
Edit: I looked it up. They hung out in Vivian’s Westwoods clothing store, Sex. Westwood and another fashion guy from those stores managed and styled them. Sounds like Westwood might have even fed them lines that became lyrics. They barely knew how to play their instruments for a solid chunk of that time.
Sounds like a boy band to me.
There is a sound bite on the pirates of destiny album where Lydon was recorded saying that sid couldn’t play anything so ig that confirms it
For me, it’s Oasis. When they reformed recently to play some shows, it was headline news across the UK.
They’re an okay band, but far from being anything special.
Oasis always sounded like they were imitating the concept of emotion, in their music, rather than actually expressing any. I don’t believe Liam and Noel Gallagher have ever felt any emotions beyond disdain for one another
They’re musically enjoyable but I do feel like we, as a society, need to truly reckon with how bad Oasis’s lyrics are. My general thought is that they wrote the music first and then said “well let’s not worry about having coherent lyrics, let’s just have me singing words that sound good at the right time in the song”.
Exactly my thought, Kiss is like royalty free muzak rock.
Exactly, also if you ever seen their photos in magazines from back in the 70s, they would have Pyro and spit out fake blood. If you never heard any of their songs just based on the visuals, you would think they were some deep disturbed hard-core metal but when you listen to their songs, it sounds like something you would hear on Sesame Street.
It was only really Gene Simmons that gave that vibe. I mean, ones a cat and another has a star.
I bought this album (Meatloaf, Bat out of Hell) back when you went to record stores and flipped through albums and bought something because the cover looked cool. I was already listening to Judas Priest, Iron Maiden… I was like wtf is this. Never understood that genre. And yeah, kiss sucks too.
Meatloaf is a classically trained opera singer, and wanted to make rock ballads. I can understand people not getting it. Bat out of Hell II, Back into Hell was where he really hit his stride.
Theatrical rock. Big outside the US. A lot of Americans don’t seem to dig it.
The fact that people acted like they didn’t know what he wouldn’t do for love tells me all I need to know about the haters. He spells it out pretty clearly. He won’t move on and fall in love again. He’s an immortal who fell for a mortal woman. She asked for all these things he could do. Then she said after she dies he should find love again. He said that’s it, that’s the line I won’t cross.
They only heard the radio edit, which completely cut that section of the song where he spells it out. Radio didn’t want to play a 12 minute song.
I was gonna say the video exists, but the video is about 7 and a half minutes while the album version is 12 and change.
One of my favourite songs right now is a Japanese song that’s around 11 minutes long. One of my favourite English songs is around ten minutes. I like long songs. I am aware that longer songs exist (RUSH’s 2112 being over 20 minutes, In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida by Iron Butterfly being something like 12-15 minutes, Rime of the Ancient Mariner and Hallowed Be Thy Name by Iron Maiden being around 10 minutes (sometimes much longer live), and I’ve even heard of modern songs reaching an hour or more. And some meme/concept songs that go for hours. Then you have concept albums that are meant to be listened to as a whole (as opposed to 2112 which was broken up into tracks). But I do like a few pretty long songs.
Meatloaf just had this annoying voice that made his music unbearable, the instrumentation is kinda ok if you like bloated overdramatic arena rock.
Being an anti-wax asshat, he died of COVID a couple of years ago. He was gonna do anything for love, but he wouldn’t do that.
All of them. It’s just music.
I like the bands/albums/singles that I like, that’s enough.
Integrating a band into my identity is so far from likely that I won’t even buy or wear a fan t-shirt.
Sounds like you don’t like music, you just prefer it to silence
Not at all, I love music. But it’s a personal experience.
Sure, but you say it’s “just” music, whereas for me music is the greatest possible thing humans are capable of. It’s still personal, but in no way is it “just” music
Sorry. I’m not explaining myself well and “just” was a poor word choice.
I refuse to (try to) idolize anything (well anything tangible) and especially things that are important to me. So music is an art like any other art. Someone will love it others might hate it and that’s fine.
The “hype” is idolatry. Kind of in the biblical sense.
My relationship is with the music, not the artist. So no artist is with the “hype”.
Hmm. If your relationship is with the music though, by extension youd have to care about the artist somewhat… so there’s no artist where you like a majority of their songs? Did you grow up only listening to greatest hits of the decades playlists? I wonder if this is more common among those who didnt grow up with albums.
We’ve diverged from the OP’s question and descended into gatekeeping how to “music” properly.
Time to finish.
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It sounds like you don’t like pop music. 1989 is an objectively good album. I don’t know anything else about any of her other music, but that single album is DENSE with well executed main stream pop.
Having said that, should tickets to see her be as expensive as they are? Should people be as obsessed with her as they are? No on both counts.
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My hot take: Metallica should be replaced in the big 4 by Suicidal Tendencies, but don’t worry, that means Rob gets to stay at least, he’s the only talent they had left anyway
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It’s also not metal to sue people for millions of dollars because they downloaded one of your shitty songs off of Napster.
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Hating metallica is a common thing nowadays, they really fell from grace a while ago when people realized they were jerk divas.
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KISS was mediocre rock at best. They have a few good songs. They are/were stage performers. Same with Gwar. Same with Insane Clown Posse. And KISS have done a lot to entertain their fans. They’re fine.
Most popular music is popular because a lot of people like it. I never much cared for Taylor Swift, but I decided to try her new album. I pay for music streaming, so it didn’t cost me anything. Turns out I really like most of it! Listened to her previous album and it doesn’t hit the same. So I’m not a Swiftie after all. Same with Kendrick Lamar. He was doing the Super Bowl last year so I listened to his latest album. I still play GNX from time to time.
Find what you love but don’t yuck somebody else’s yum.
If you like GNX try going waaaaaaaay back to the old old stuff, like his K Dot mixtakes back before he went by Kendrick Lamar. I think you can still find those on DatPiff, or at least you could add of a few years ago.
Not exactly what you’re asking, but Nickelback was a passing good rock band with several great songs. How they became the punching bag of bad bands I’ll never really understand.
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They are like vanilla with vanilla sauce on top.
They are “radio rock” personified.
So you’re saying they defined a genre
Nope. Just personified it.
Nickelback has some great songs I still jam to. They’re just generic radio rock that doesn’t offend people. See also: Creed. Until Scott Stapp offended people.
Noone can tell the difference between Creed and Nickleback. I think that is part of the problem.
I remember it seemed like every time I got in the car at their peek they would be on. I always just assumed it was because Canada has always about the minimum amount of canadian content played.
Pretty much all of them.
It’d be easier to ask which bands do deserve their recognition.
Nirvana… And I say that as a pretty big fan of them. I have no idea how they became the biggest band in the world. They were really really good, but I’m surprised by how much commercial success they had.
There weren’t a lot of radio friendly songs. Nobody knew what the lyrics were. For all the bands that try so hard to be commercially successful, Nirvana didn’t try much at all and still succeeded.
I dunno, smells like teen spirit hit pretty hard. It was a new sound and many people’s first exposure to grunge. I agree, there are better bands (STP was better than Nirvana and I’m dying on that hill). But they were first, and it explains how they blew up overnight.
Lemmy tell you why you’re wrong. JK you can’t fix stupid! Also jk you’re not stupid for having an opinion. I’m just bored waiting for my 3 year old to finish pooping kids still need help wiping there ass at this age but I do love Nirvana…got me through a lot of tough times. Listen to them live at the reading festival it might change your mind.
I saw them here, before they got famous. They did a big tour in a white van, played a bar here with a crowd of about 30 people! Bought the last shirt from the hands of Kurt, I had absolutely no idea they would get famous, they were so far from anything getting played on the radio. I only knew about them because my brother’s friend gave me a tape with them, Mudhoney, Tad.
Swear to God I cannot predict to save my life but live a few years in the future. You could have knocked me down with a feather when they got famous, and I think they were just as surprised.
I agree with you. They were good but not great.
Please tell me you have the shirt and can post a photo
And they released three studio albums.
True, but 2 of them (bleach and in utero) are pretty rough and not polished for radio.
But I did and do love them.
I never liked Nirvana other than a song or two. They had Dave Grohl and that explains a lot. Plus Kurt was an icon. Their success didn’t bother me. But I felt others did grunge better.
To be honest? AC/DC; they’ve got plenty of good songs but plenty of duds as well. It’s pretty much become one of those bands that if you ask someone, who’s wearing their tshirt what their favourite song/album is, they either won’t be able to give you an answer, or pick a really obvious one (most likely either Highway to Hell or Hell’s Bells).
It’s the same with Metallica and, to a lesser extent, Iron Maiden.
Agreed.
I mean, I felt like AC/DC focused more on brand recognition when Brian Johnson took over after Bon Scott died. Their music were aiming for radio appeal, not that no musician should because it means being successful, but it almost was formulaic. Thunderstruck for example, became a staple for sports soundtracks and stadium like events.
And they’re a victim of their own success as you’ve talked here, where someone who didn’t grow up with the band, will only focus on the popular songs. Despite them having grown up with at least a couple albums that AC/DC did release, like their last album ‘Power Up’ was in 2020. It’s the same deal with Nirvana, always wearing that double-X smiley shirt or having the poster and only saying they cared about Nevermind. The same for Guns 'N Roses where it’s always both of the Appetite for Destruction albums and songs like Welcome to the Jungle and November Rain.
I think it honestly just speaks about a fan’s depth as to how much they like bands. An actual fan likes a band and addresses both flaw and success. A casual fan only likes what was popular and nothing else for cheap nods.
Metallica for sure as a 42 year old I’m a fan of them or to be specific I’m a fan of 2 albums, justice for all and the black album. I never stood the long-term appeal of them. I have a friend who is the same age as me who is a diehard fan of Metallica they kind of remind me of the next generation kiss. And also on top of that, they helped destroy Napster.
I obviously never met any of them but the band itself just comes across as a bunch of douchebags, especially James Hetfield.
Smashing pumpkins. Booooooring. And Billy is an ass.
