• wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    8 months ago

    I’m pretty sure their SUVs have bulletproof windshields. I mean they only have a multi-billion dollar budget and access to all the military equipment they could possibly want.

    I’m not aware of anyone testing this hypothesis, though…

  • LOGIC💣@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    8 months ago

    So, ICE is scared that aggressive untrained people will use deadly force against them, and that afterwards the government will do nothing about it?

    That’s pretty much how everybody else has felt about ICE for a long time.

        • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          8 months ago

          We all cope in our own ways. This post is an amazing example of how we are not immune to propaganda, so… at least there’s that?

          • LOGIC💣@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            8 months ago

            This post is an amazing example of how we are not immune to propaganda

            This post isn’t propaganda, though, so it’s not that amazing of an example.

            • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              8 months ago

              Yeah and if this openly and unabashedly satirical post was still being treated like legit reporting, imagine how people must react to actual propaganda.

              • LOGIC💣@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                8 months ago

                Actual propaganda isn’t true, though, or at least it requires an element of misleading in it. If ICE officials aren’t actually concerned about people shooting them and claiming self-defense, then I’ll eat my hat, as the old saying goes.

                It’s also not “openly and unabashedly satirical.” You only think that because you recognize the source as satirical. To everybody else, it reads as clickbait.

                Clickbait + true statements does not equal an amazing example of how we are not immune to propaganda.

                • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  8 months ago

                  Actual propaganda frequently is true, this is misleading in that it is not actually reporting news, just guessing something is true doesn’t make it true, I didn’t recognize the poster I went and looked it up trying to find a source and discovered it was posted by a very open satire site, and this seems like a really stupid thing for you to be trying to start a fight over.

          • Naich@lemmings.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            8 months ago

            I wasn’t criticising the satirist, more the world that is making satire impossible to differentiate from fact.

            • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              8 months ago

              Nah totally, I read it as a similar sentiment to "What’s the point in doing anything". If that was off the mark I apologize. I just meant that we all cope in our own ways, even if some of them are somewhat windmill-tilting-y

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        8 months ago

        Not in this case.

        Give it a month, max, before somebody with either the cojones or the ovaries required to do this, does it.

        … This … this is literally how the American Revolution started, at least from one sort of way of looking at it.

        You have oppressive government forces killing and maiming enough randos long enough, eventually the randos start shooting back.

        See also: Anywhere else the US has invaded and occupied in the last, I dunno, 75 years, more than that.

      • matlag@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        8 months ago

        With that said, if you were to end in the same situation, would the idea to actually run over an ICE agent so that he doesn’t shoot you cross your mind?

        • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          8 months ago

          I really fail to see how that’s relevant to the source being a satire news site.

    • takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      8 months ago

      That pig was was recording while reaching for his gun, it looks like that video was meant as a trophy.

  • Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    8 months ago

    Remember, if this happens then Orange McFuckface will declare there’s a civil war going on and declare martial law, canceling elections.

  • Rakonat@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    8 months ago

    Turns out abusing power and oppression law abiding citizens claiming they have no rights has consequences. Who would have thought.

    • Knelt6526@lemmynsfw.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      8 months ago

      Aren’t they already in a civil war? Didn’t trump already deploy the army against some cities and states before, or did i fall for some sensationalist headlines there?

  • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    8 months ago

    Guys, The Halfway Post is a satire website. “America’s #1 source for Dada news”. Lotta people eating the onion in this comment section.

    • Rothe@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      8 months ago

      It reveals itself as satire when it assumed US citizens would actively fight the fascists. They are way too lethargic and complacent to ever do anything of the sort.

    • GreenShimada@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      8 months ago

      Especially when, sadly, we all know DHS will 100% get a Federal judge or SCOTUS to make this LEO-only OK and let them shoot anyone they want driving, walking, or looking towards them.

    • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      8 months ago

      Mate, have you read the news in the last months, with special attention to the first days of this year? I understand it’s satire and it’s not real, but right now, people are having a really hard time to distinguish satire from real news.

      • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        8 months ago

        One of the biggest reasons why everything sucks right now is the prevelance of misinformation online. This isn’t even trying to be misinformation, it took me literally five seconds to confirm that this is from a satire website, and yet when I posted it every other comment was engaging with this as though it were factual reporting.

        I know everything sucks right now, but we can’t start freely accepting lies as truth just because we’re tired. If we do that, we lose completely.

  • Formfiller@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    8 months ago

    Breaking: ICE is afraid that Americans will start exercising their second amendment rights to protect their first and fourth amendment rights from a tyrannical pedofile protecting uncontrolled secret police

  • laranis@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    8 months ago

    That’s why civilization exists you dumb fucks. You start tearing it down and violence is all that’s left.

    • SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      8 months ago

      Eh, can’t say I agree with Thomas Hobbes on this. ICE is acting in the exact opposite of the state of nature, they’re the violent arm of the sovereign

      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        8 months ago

        That’s a blatant misunderstanding of what a Hobbesian sovereign is. According to Hobbes, a sovereign is a form of body politic derived from the consent of the governed. People form civilizations, understanding that by abiding by common agreements they can mutually improve the conditions and circumstances of their lives. Everyone is safer when we agree not to kill each other, and anyone who violates that norm loses the protection of the social contract. Hence, capital punishment as a penalty for murder.

        What ICE is doing is violating the social contract and acting without the consent of the governed (bypassing congressional approval/oversight, ignoring established laws and constitutional rights, etc.). In effect, they’re regressing us back to the conditions of the state of nature in which “might makes right” and “survival of the fittest,” conditions which the social contract originated in order to overcome.

        • kureta@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          8 months ago

          That Goebbels-looking-ass dude literally said “might makes right” on a live TV interview.

      • laranis@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        8 months ago

        Was your comment intended to suggest a better term than “civilization” was “society”? That is probably a valid correction and I need to brush up on my vocabulary before I have angry anti fascism outbursts on the interwebs.