• Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    15 hours ago

    Its very hard to sell a product based on it being “reliable” and “good quality”. This is because everyone fucking lies in their marketing about those exact qualities and its inevitable that you will get breakdowns and your customers will complain about those breakdowns and destroy your reputation.

    Everything is fake now. Its just a matter of using marketing to tell the customer your product is exactly what they want.

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    4 days ago

    Some of these products already exist. They are expensive. If you go back and look at the long-lasting appliances of the past, they were also expensive.

    One example is Speed Queen washers/dryers. Also Bosch dishwashers.

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      4 days ago

      Many of these become enshittified. Bosh is an example. My sister kitted out her kitchen with many Bosch appliances when she renovated, like 10 years ago. All have had issues.

      The fridge has peeling faux chrome handles, the microwave button/wheel/control had to be replaced, the washer had the drum bearing fail, and the drum housing is sealed, so you have to replace the whole drum assembly, which costs as much as an entire budget washer…

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    4 days ago

    And I will sell it in a store called “in stock” because we have these things called “computers” that can reorder a product once one sells so the shelves aren’t empty. Because American companies have never heard of that concept.

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    4 days ago

    The problem is that you think that would make the ‘just’ products cheaper. The reality is that the data and advertising subsidize the costs of the existing options and make them cheaper then what ‘just’ could sell for.

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      4 days ago

      I’m never going to buy a fridge with a tablet embedded in it, but I don’t really think they are making that much money from that. You can buy cheaper equivalent versions of appliances that don’t have the ability to display ads or collect/send data anywhere.

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      4 days ago

      Case in point: Smeg already does this, and all their products are considered upmarket. They’re just really solid normal appliances.

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        4 days ago

        Only if there’s a lack of competition in that market. For most devices, you’re just flat out wrong.

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          Damn that $2_000 fridge must be super awesome for it to have no competition. That explains the ads on it.
          No, you’re wrong. You pay more and still get shafted. I’m not saying that all products are like that, but the number of products that still show you ads and gobble your data while also becoming prohibitively expensive is ever increasing.
          We’re in that nice transition phase where you can spend $200 or $3000 on a TV but your privacy is gone either way.

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    I’ve been thinking about this for a while now, how I just want a basic bitch electric car. No centre console, no futuristic screens, no sensors, no cameras. Give me a normal fucking car with dials, a speedo, some padles on the steering wheel to adjust power output to replace gears and no driver assist. Sell it to me for cheap and let me drive my car. That’s all I want.

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      4 days ago

      I haven’t seen speedometer shortened to speedo before. I was wondering why you wanted to get a speedo (like swimwear) along with the rest of your normal car accessories.

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      4 days ago

      some padles on the steering wheel to adjust power output to replace gears

      What? The foot pedal adjusts power. You don’t need a replacement for gears.

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        4 days ago

        I would very much like a manner to manually adjust how hard the regenerative coasting works, which would sort of be a replacement for gears. If I’m going down a steep hill I’d like to be able to adjust the regen to maximize energy recovery while also managing vehicle speed.

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          I recently bought an ebike that has peddle assist settings of 1-5. With 1 being lowest and 5 being maximum. These settings essentially act like gears setting the maximum motor power.

          In crowded areas I set the speed to 1 so the bike can’t exceed 15kph, on open roads I set the speed to 5 which is unlimited. I would definitely want this in a car.

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              Right? Like why isn’t there the ability for me to dictate power output from the motor rather than simply being on or off with speed being regulated via “things”, breaks, accelerator, sensors, etc.

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      4 days ago

      Murdered. Killed. Assassinated. Victim of criminal homicide. Flayed alive. Burned at the stake. Killed, raped, boiled alive, his house and family burned down in arson and pedophilic murder.

      We do not need to use the word “unalived.”

      • BillyTheKid@lemmy.ca
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        People always call me crazy but I buy commercial displays. You can get them cheaper if you do it the right way. So speakers, no tuner, no smart functions, usually only 1 or 2 inputs, and basically no bells or whistles.

        But that’s how I like it, so I don’t care if it makes me 🤣😧🤣😧

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        4 days ago

        There might be some liability concerns if you run a open source firmware on your washing machine and it decides to never shut off the water inlet…

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        4 days ago

        Since it would make small quantities (at least at the start) and with better materials, I bet it would be also more expensive so maybe it evens out.

        I would also buy it, I’m tired of household items that randomly break and the manufacturer doesn’t care.

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    4 days ago

    The Sims did it first, except the brand was called “Justa”. Justa dishwasher. Justa fridge.

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    That’s like Ali G saying he invented the PlayStation 2 because he thought about it when the playstation came out.

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      4 days ago

      I was annoyed as a kid when I independently came up with the idea of a flying car then found out that the world beat me to it.

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        That happened to me a few years back, a friend just had his clutch fail in his car. I started thinking how to make a better way to transfer power from motor to wheels.

        Turns out I just reinvented the fluid coupling used in automatic transmissions…needless to say my idea wasn’t that impressive after that.

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          4 days ago

          My million dollar idea is an add-on for your device that kicks every billionaire on the planet in the nut sack every time someone teleports.

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          Find identical twins, dress em the same, have one walk into a cardboard box with “teleporter” written on it by a child, and have the other twin come out another similar cardboard box.

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            Eh. You are a piece of software running on meat. Every night, there are long periods where ‘you’, the conscious entity of your awareness, ceases to exist. You only dream for a small portion of the night. There are times when you are simply gone.

            Yet we have no problem accepting this fact. We’ve just collectively accepted that there is some continuity of consciousness between each day. But it couldn’t be further from the truth. You have the memories of yesterday, but ‘you’ have not been in continued conscious existence since yesterday. In a very real sense, we are a series of single-day lifetimes stitched together across time.

            If you’ve ever gone under anesthesia, it’s even more jarring. When you’re under, you’re not asleep. You’re not dreaming. You’re just gone. The time passes in an instant.

            If my consciousness can be discontinuous through time, why can’t it be discontinuous through space? If I can believe that I am the same me as the mes of yesterday and tomorrow, why can I not believe that a remotely assembled copy of me is also me? I used to run on that meat, now I run on this meat. It’s all me in the end.

  • Zwrt@lemmy.sdf.org
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    5 days ago

    Similar to my idea called to make a clothing brand called “brandless”

    No logo, no graphics, no distinguished designs

    Just plain basic clothes in basic colors, using fabrics that last.

    No itchy washing label either. All product information in detail available on site. At most a product number printed or sown on the inside.

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      There already was a company called Brandless that tried to do the same thing with basic groceries like ketchup and paper towels. Looks like they’re in the process of getting back to market, but seems like they had the same mindset.

      Would be really nice to have something similar for clothes.

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      I mean Uniqlo is kinda like this. No brand (at least in most of their basic stuff, I‘m not counting their new shit), long lasting and not expensive