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    11 months ago

    This should be mandatory by law. Touch screens should not exist in cars for drivers.

  • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    So long as the vents have analog dials that manipulate how much air is coming out. Otherwise I’d have to be pro left/right temperature difference. When it’s 100 degrees out side and someone says the AC is to cold it blows my mind

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            11 months ago

            Celsius is near useless as well, you can’t use it for anything without converting it to kelvins first. Both F and C are “because we use it and it’s familiar”. 100 degrees we should have said your blood is already frozen! Turn the heat on

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              Celsius is near useless

              Found a USian 🤦

              “In metric, one milliliter of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy to heat up by one degree centigrade—which is 1 percent of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point. An amount of hydrogen weighing the same amount has exactly one mole of atoms in it. Whereas in the American system, the answer to ‘How much energy does it take to boil a room-temperature gallon of water?’ is ‘Go fuck yourself,’ because you can’t directly relate any of those quantities.”

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      11 months ago

      Lol, yes, automatic vents are only beginning to get good (and are far from prefect).

      For me it’s def not something you set only once. Witch is a fail by default.

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        11 months ago

        I haven’t owned a new car in my life so I can’t say what they are now, but if it comes with a witch inside, I have to say I’d set them free. Lol

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      11 months ago

      There is such a thing as the AC being to cold. When I turn it all the way down in my car it’s like being inside a freezer. It legitimately starts to hurt where it blows on your skin after a while. Same with the heat though, it gets so hot that you burn yourself if you touch the vents.

      • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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        11 months ago

        I miss my old car where the engine was so small it got up to temp in minutes even in -30 and the airflow was so direct it felt like it was burning your hands if you aimed it right at the steering wheel

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          11 months ago

          Yeah, I’ve got a 2.3L engine and the heater gets warm by the time I leave the driveway. Strangely enough the 1.2L engine in my moms car takes forever.

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            11 months ago

            huh. the 1.4L in my old car is what I was referring to

            my current 2.5L takes forever in comparison, so did my last 2.0L (Mazda3)

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        11 months ago

        You know you can adjustt the temperature AND air flow, right? You can blast the air to accelerate to the desired temperature and then dial back on the air flow and temperature to keep the car actually pleasent. I only say this because i have a friend who cranks the heat full blast in the winter and then rolls down his windows while still max blasting the heating! Dude has serious brain worms.

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          11 months ago

          you don’t do that?

          having the window down in the winter for the fresh cool air over your face and chest while blowing heat on your feet and hands feels great

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            11 months ago

            I live in Northern Ohio 40 minutes from Lake Erie. We have COLD winters here with wet air. Plus, my shitty soft top VW Bug with a busted window lets in more than enough cold air

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    11 months ago

    Hard disagree with this. Climate control has become a must for me since the early 2000s. Set and forget is always better than fiddling with things. And now my current car has three levels of automatic so it doesn’t go full blast at the beginning, it’s amazing.

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      11 months ago

      I wish my wife understood how that worked. She always gets in, and since the engine hasn’t warmed up yet, the heat doesn’t come on, so she cranks it up to 30C.

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        My wife’s car is like that, you set it to 72 and it’ll blast really hot air or really cold air depending on the outside temperature vs inside. I wish it just blasted 72 degree air. I just always use it in manual mode now so its not constantly switching.

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          11 months ago

          I just move the vents so they’re not blowing directly in my face, once the inside temp gets to the set point it calms down.

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        11 months ago

        Yeah, my gf does something similar, but opposite. She doesn’t like it going full blast so she turns down the fan which turns off the auto. I think if she had the version I did she would actually use it correctly.

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      11 months ago

      Automatic AC is good. Having an accident while looking at which part of the touchscreen the finger has to press is straight retarded engineering.

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        11 months ago

        So, even better argument for auto climate control. Set it once when you first get in your car and are still parked, then leave it. However, yes buttons please. If this meme is about buttons vs touch screen, then I strongly agree with the meme. My vehicle not only has the auto climate, but also it is using buttons. They’re stupid capacitive touch buttons that Hyundai has since switched back away from, but at least they’re always in the same spot and I don’t have to change any screens to access them.

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      11 months ago

      You joke, but I literally came across this. I HATE that I had to connect my window unit to the net, but we have a lot of brownouts in the area, and it allows me to restart the AC if I’m away, or else my pups would cook during the summer if it didn’t turn on. The AWS outage hit, and I couldn’t log in to the app that controls it to turn it on. Luckily, it’s not peak summer and it didn’t get too warm by the time I got home.

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        11 months ago

        If the brownouts don’t last long, you could maybe solve this issue with a moderately priced UPS to keep the AC unit from powering off during the brief moments when power goes out.

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          I’d have to spend more on the ups than the ac unit. Sometimes it’s brown outs, sometimes full blackouts. As much as I hate connecting it to the web, it’s free vs at least a couple hundred for a high enough wattage ups to run more than a minute.

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        11 months ago

        Amazon Web Services, are huge data centers that many companies rent to run their services.

        The other day one of those AWS data centers had issues and temporarly went down so many services didn’t work, also because of this many heated beds stopped working properly and over-heated.

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          11 months ago

          Plus the Ring doorbell, plus probably lots of people got locked out because of smart locks.

          It’s sad to see how easily people are fooled to depend on huge greedy corporations.

          To me it seems insanse that a server crashes somewhere and the door lock or door bell doesn’t work.

    • grte@lemmy.ca
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      11 months ago

      Or perhaps, I can’t toggle my AC because I forgot to pay my subscription fee.

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      11 months ago

      You are joking, but I’m pretty sure a few cars could not start or got bricked because AWS went down.

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        11 months ago

        Till one of the 3 in vent temp sensors fails and my AC won’t turn on until its replaced but you have to remove the entire dash to access it so it would cost $1500 to change a $20 sensor

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      11 months ago

      3 zone a/c is also pretty nice. No more “it’s too <exact opposite of what the driver is feeling>” whining from the back.

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        11 months ago

        While I’m eating sushi, snapchatting, and flipping off that jerk that cut me off?? That sounds dangerous.

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        I somewhat regularly drive 9+ hours and split controls are not really comparable to just pointing the vents. If I am the driver, I need cool air blowing at me to keep me awake and alert. No longer having to compromise with passengers has been a pretty big improvement for a drive that long.

  • Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    First gen tundra controls really are excellent. They and used mechanical linkages for the diverter and for the hot/cold control. The only problem is the knobs get loose over time and can break or fall off when you accellerate.

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    11 months ago

    It’s true. I hate my touch screen to control airflow in my car. Every time I go to adjust it, it fucks up and I’m distracted while driving.

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    11 months ago

    Heated and cooling seats…

    Split zones

    Heated steering wheels

    And so much more…

    I swear the online Luddite whining about car tech never ends…

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      Split zones aren’t real, just have one person open their window a crack, thermostats in cars do not work. Heated seats are nice.

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        What are you babbling about?

        Split zones are completely real in my vehicles as are the thermostats…

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      11 months ago

      Bro obviously they’re lauding physical mechanical buttons, not condemning useful features. Every single thing you listed can be controlled with manual tactile buttons. The issue that people have is with needless touchscreens and unnecessary digital interfaces.

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      It’s not the actual tech, generally speaking, that people are upset about. Although your Luddite reference is probably more accurate than you intended.

      The Luddites weren’t anti-tech, they were anti- the damage it was doing to the people who did the work.

      Most people who hate these new technologies aren’t mad at the tech itself, they’re mad at the quality that’s produced when the only concern is lowering costs and the extractive infrastructure built around it. A monthly fucking subscription for heated seats. This exists now.

      The alternative to this is the galaxy brained take: “THESE PEOPLE HATE HAVING A COMFORTABLE ASS WHILE DRIVING”

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        Your being way too generous…

        The people that are upset about this are just whining for fake internet points…

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      Heated and cooling seats…“I sit on a small ice bag”

      Split zones “all car interiors are too small to have a significant difference”

      Heated steering wheels - “I wear gloves on cold days”

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    11 months ago

    I still have this. I can adjust all of it without ever looking at knobs while driving. Good luck doing that with touch bs.

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    11 months ago

    Wrong. This has no ads. How will I become a tech billionaire if I can’t disable your breaks until you watch my ad?

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      11 months ago

      To: [email protected]

      Subject: Major Alert Notification

      Dear <INSERT NAME HERE>, It has come to our attention via our sophisticated proprietary carAI system that you and your friend (Brad) were discussing the owner of this CarCompany Inc, LLC and one of you called him a “Poop-Head”. In light of this recent conversation, we have disabled all non-essential functions in your car until you send $150 to “[email protected]”. If after 90 days this payment has not been received these functions will be permanently revoked until End of Life (Yours or Cars).

      Sincerely, Probably Elon Musk.

      ~CarAI is a service offered at no cost with a irrevocable revocable license. All data gathers with or without consent are the sole property of CarCampnay Inc, LLC. Subject to Terms and Conditions. May be updated at any time by CarCompany Inc, LLC without notification. Any legal issues are required by Arbitration only within the city limits of Pyongyang~

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        I did, but wait how does the other one work?

        EDIT: Nevermind, I got it. That’s funny. Now I’m happy I can’t spell lol

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    My car is still mainly like this.

    It has a touchscreen thing but it’s only for the entertainment and it has steering wheel controls as well so there’s an alternative to using the screen while driving.