Slavery never left it just got rebranded.

The Thirteenth Amendment needs to be amended.

Per Wikipedia: The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. The amendment was passed by the Senate on April 8, 1864, by the House of Representatives on January 31, 1865, and ratified by the required 27 of the then 36 states on December 6, 1865, and proclaimed on December 18, 1865. It was the first of the three Reconstruction Amendments adopted following the American Civil War.

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        Well, it’s not explicitly there for racists. Punishing crime with labor has a long history, both in and outside the US.

        The most common kind in the US is community service as used for a minor punishment in place of incarceration.
        It’s by no means good, but the worst examples tend to disproportionately color the perceived level of injustice to it.

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      I love how there’s actual companies like Coke, Pepsi, McD’s, BK, Aldi, and then there’s Kellog’s Rice Krispies - Guess anything else Kellog’s is fine then.

      Except if it’s from Aldi.

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      I have previously read that basically every Fortune 500 company has divisions that profit off of prison labor.

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          Indeed it would be a dereliction of Duty for them not to Chisel everybody else down as much as possible to take a larger share. Seeing as the government is to corrupt to stop them as it is bound to do by law.

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        I’m gonna need something a bit more specific than Costco, Sam’s Club, Kroger, Walmart, and Target. Are you saying ALL products in those stores are from slave labor? Most? Some? A few obscure items?

        I don’t really have any other options for groceries where I live.

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          Because that’s totally something most people have access to and can do.

          Gonna start substinence farming inside my apartment deep in the concrete jungle of the inner city, yup.

          The world has changed deeply since the era where that was a way out of this. The majority of US citizens literally do not have access to arable land.

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                Sarcasm and irony on the Internet are dead though. We live in post-sane times, i cannot ever assume the other person is not completely serious about the utterly deranged and/or idiotic shit they write or say.

                I must always assume that yes, that person is in fact as stupid as they seem until proven otherwise/indicated by an /s.

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                Sometimes it isn’t even media literacy. I’ve known several nuero divergent people over the years who can have a hard time understanding sarcasm in person unless the person being sarcastic is really over doing it. They have no chance differentiating sarcastic and serious if it’s written.

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            Indoor vertical farming is quite efficient.

            Get a tent and a light, there’s no need for attitude because you can’t think up already available solutions.

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              The power requirements are astronomical, let alone the initial investment and upkeep.

              My yard is 80’ x 200’. I might be able to feed my wife and I off that, no more. We’d be near starving, and likely would in the years it would take to work it out anything more than corn or potatoes. I have 2.5 acres of swamp in NW Florida. Can’t grow shit there.

              There’s a swamp down the road. I’d struggle to bring home a meaningful amount of fish. The creek that pours of it runs behind our house. About zero fish. I’d burn more calories trying to catch one than I’d gain.

              Sometimes I could shoot a deer! But, as with the fish, when everyone’s hungry, nothing with fur would be left after a month.

              SOURCE: Been growing plants for 35 years.

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                I’ve read a few accounts of people who’ve attempted to become completely self-sufficient. Even those with lots of land who spend all their time farming/fishing/hunting find that it’s pretty much impossible these days. If you did achieve self-sufficiency at some point, you’d likely only be one failed crop from starving most of the time.

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                  you’d likely only be one failed crop from starving most of the time.

                  Which is basically synonymous with subsistence farming, absent community or govt support. Lots of commenters who have obviously never needed to grow food to survive. Trust me, it is deeply unglamorous and insecure and always has been.

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            Honestly, as an old tyme closet grower, with about $300-400 in led lighting and a closet or small area that you could put a blackout grow enclosure, you could work 2-4 hydroponic buckets and get a shit load of tomatoes, and probably a few other fruit/vegetable strains.

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              $300-400 buys me enough groceries for a half year. A few tomatoes don’t give me enough calories to survive even close to a half year. And don’t even get me started on the electricity cost of attempting this in Germany.

              It’s not an option for everyone

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                Fuck sake, $300 buys me enough groceries for around two months if I’m lucky

                sounds of audible American despair

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                  Lol idk what he’s doing to survive on $300-400 for half a year, I doubt Germany is that cheap. If I cook a decent meal once per day and just get some sandwich material for breakfast, that’s still gonna add up to like $200 a month for me. Unfortunately I’m lazy so I sometimes get frozen pizzas, or just some protein and frozen fries to throw in the air fryer. That already puts one day around $10 without any extras. This is in Estonia, not the cheapest European country these days, but also far from the most expensive. I do see a lot of people saying you should be able to eat on €40 (~$50) a week , or €60 for a whole family, but I literally don’t see how that’s possible unless meal prepping something with bulk ingredients.

                  Now if you cook potatoes and/or pasta and/or rice without any sauce, condiments, protein, etc… You could probably go half a year on $300-400. But you WILL hate yourself at the end of week 1 and also be severely lacking protein lol

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        For a lot of people the most radical thing they can do is tear up their lawn and grow a garden.

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        I like CSAs. All I really need to buy from stores is stuff like protein and grains. There are local CSAs in my area that even offer meat, eggs, and milk.

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          There’s one just down the street from me! A day’s worth of food is about $100 there. So, uh.

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            Hmm. Yeah, my local farmer’s markets are expensive, but the CSA subscriptions are reasonable (i.e. the ones where you pay upfront for the season’s produce, reducing the farmer’s risk, then get a box of produce every week). Some, you can volunteer on the farm to get “free” food.

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              All the subscriptions I’ve looked at are significantly costlier than grocery stores, on the same order as the ship I mentioned. I get the impression that they’re trying to just tybdercut restaurant prices, as if their target market is people who would otherwise eat out every meal. Maybe I’m just not finding the right ones, but what I can budget for is restaurant supply and warehouse prices.

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                Most of my local ones are registered on https://www.localharvest.org/ (their map seems to be messed up right now, but seems to work if you type in a zipcode, select CSA from the dropdown, and press “GO”). They are more expensive than groceries stores, but don’t use heavily exploited labor, and you often get a lot of weird/cool stuff normal grocery stores don’t sell.

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      I think it would be better to state the specific products rather than call out grocery stores at large. With this info I cant write a letter to Costco telling them I think they should drop a product and why

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    Willie Ingram picked everything from cotton to okra during his 51 years in the state penitentiary, better known as Angola.

    During his time in the fields, he was overseen by armed guards on horseback and recalled seeing men, working with little or no water, passing out in triple-digit heat. Some days, he said, workers would throw their tools in the air to protest, despite knowing the potential consequences.

    “They’d come, maybe four in the truck, shields over their face, billy clubs, and they’d beat you right there in the field. They beat you, handcuff you and beat you again,” said Ingram, who received a life sentence after pleading guilty to a crime he said he didn’t commit. He was told he would serve 10 ½ years and avoid a possible death penalty, but it wasn’t until 2021 that a sympathetic judge finally released him. He was 73.

    This is horrifying in all regards

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      It was horrible to do to people that you claim to be ‘rehabilitating’. Now it’s going to be done to whatever marginalized group is next in the list, and provided no actual challenge or resistance, that list will grow to include people in trade unions, educated professionals, entertainers, free thinkers, any type of dissenter, oh and they’ve already dog whistled their plan to ‘punish’ people who donated to the Harris campaign.

      Meanwhile the Trump administration is dismantling agencies that track and fight child/human trafficking. It’s not by coincidence. The goal is that we all are essentially assets of the federal government that can be bought, sold, and/or stripped of citizenship if it becomes useful to the regime.

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      He was told he would serve 10 ½ years and avoid a possible death penalty, but it wasn’t until 2021 that a sympathetic judge finally released him. He was 73.

      note: he was released because he wasn’t usable as a prison laborer anymore. he was released because the prison couldn’t make money off him anymore. he was released so he has to look for his own shelter.

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      Willie Ingram picked everything from cotton to okra during his 51 years in the state penitentiary, better known as Angola.

      Fake news, this country only got fucked after Trump got elected or bush or reagan. It was all sunshine and peaches otherwise.

      gReAtEsT cOuNtRtY iN tHe wOrLd

      -most yankistanis

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    They’re trying to build a prison

    They’re trying to build a prison

    They’re trying to build a prison

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    There is a reason the US has 20% of the world’s prison population but only 5% of the actual world population. It is one of the many injustices thrust upon our society by the ruling class for their benefit.

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    The 13th amendment says that slavery’s abolished. Look at all these slave master posing on your dollar.

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          Even the punishment for possessing black people cocaine vs white people cocaine is ridiculous. The former used to be a mandatory 5 year sentence, the latter you could walk away with a probation. Fair sentencing act reduced the discrepancy a bit, but not completely IIRC.

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              Correct. In fact the south almost immediately turned to convict leasing. They could round up and convict black men for pretty much any reason they could think of. Typically “vagrancy,” aka not having a job. And they re-enslaved them quite legally. Keep in mind black people were not permitted to stand as witnesses in pretty much any courtroom of the time. It did not matter if any charges made were accurate, conviction was pretty much assured.

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    Good time to look into splitting and sharing your Costco membership. Possibly remove you and your partner, and go half with someone else.

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    The US constitution expressly and explicitly allows slavery if it’s punishment for a crime. Read the 13th amendment if you don’t believe me.

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    No no no. They’re just temporarily relieved of their bootstraps. Once out, they can again be free and rich. Now, you take a barbarian country like China, Iran, or (gasp) Russia, those countries are crazy. They’re the bad guys.

    We’re the good guys.

    See? Simple. Now let’s go check what’s on Netflix.