6 in 10 Canadians had too much trust in US citizens
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4 in 10 never trusted them to begin with
The one silver lining to this whole fascist takeover of the US is that I’m not an odd one out in my hatred of the USA anymore. The exceptionalism and arragance of Americans always weirded me out and I guess this is where that all that shit lead
The one silver lining to this whole fascist takeover of the US is that I’m not an odd one out in my hatred of the USA anymore.
I’ve been saying for a long time that US fascists are only bringing forth America’s true face. It has always been arrogant, genocidal, and imperialist. Ask Latin America and the Middle East if they have positive view of the US. Even my country after being liberated from Spanish rule, the US took over us despite opposition and used the same suppression tactic as they had applied to Native Americans. This is in spite of US proclaiming to be the land of the free. “You are not free unless we say so”. “Follow the international law and rules based order, except for us”. Biden himself affirmed US will invade The Hague if the International Criminal Court arrests any American citizen. He pardoned his son from criminal conviction. But when Trump does it all, that is corruption and illegal? So much for shining beacon on the hill, land of the free and proponent of international law.
The US establishment since inception are closeted fascists from the get-go and doesn’t even know it. Now, Trump is bringing to light the truth. And why not? The voters demanded authenticity and this is what they get as asked. In “The Shining”, a major theme is America’s colonial past and one of the quote is “you’ve always been the caretaker”. The US has always been a fascist but never knew its real face. Where did the word fascism comes from? From Latin “fasces”. Where did the words “empire” and “colony” come from? From Latin as well. Where did the US republic model itself? From the Romans, who committed genocide, engaged in slavery, practised imperialism and was hedonistic and heavily unequal as society. From anti- and post-colonial perspective, countries that either modeled itself from the Roman empire or sees itself as the next Rome always collapse-- from the British, Germans, Russians, Spanish, France and now the US.
What’s scary is even the anti-Trump ones are like that. There’s a lot of them trying to come to Canada and they’ll say things like “my great great great grandfather was Canadian, Canada is my TRUE HOME also what’s with all these Chinese immigrants in Vancouver??” like ma’am that Chinese man has probably been here for 3 generations he is more Canadian than you. Don’t get me started on how they’ll pick out certain stereotypes to try to sound more Canadian, like “oh I LOVE poutine and hockey, it must be in my blood because I’m TRES CANADIAN”. Like they genuinely do not get it.
I bet more in ten Americans feel the same way about Americans.
Same
… It’s probably about the same. A certain idiot never really dips below 38% approval rating.
They don’t trust us, we don’t trust them.
I don’t know who we is, but you’re right.
As an US American watching two decades of secular human sacrifice through the long tail of the gunpowder revolution has left me undernourished and starving for humanity.
I’m afraid that the humanity you starve for has always been an ideal, and not reality.
Yeah, I was just wondering what the hell is wrong with 4/10 Canadians?
half of those are probably Bertans
Every country has “the idiot third”, add a couple “IDK” and bam 40%
It feels like we’re near or possibly over the precipice of losing our democracy
I’d just caution our friends to the north and those across the pond that when I look at people like Carney and Starmer I see people as bad or worse than Biden and then I look at who’s waiting in the wings…
It’s been gone since Citizens United, dude.
There is no stauncher enemy than a friend denied
On one hand, fair, on the other hand, I don’t want to be here either.
I never understood this stereotype (aboot vs about). I’m Canadian, lived here all my life, my family is all Canadian and all have lived here all their lives. I’ve got family all across the country, from the western coast of BC to the eastern coast of Newfoundland, from the northern stretches of Nunavut to the most southern tip of Ontario, and very rarely have I ever heard it pronounced that way. It’s actually really funny as a Canadian to look up “how to speak like a Canadian” and watch how awful most of the “tips” are. I’d recommend it.
A lot of people in the us will misinterpret a rural Ontario accent as Californian because way back in the day a bunch of people from Ontario moved to California and apparently the accent kind of caught on.
There’s a town called Ontario in California even.
It’s exaggerated. I’m from Newfoundland and have little to no regional accent, but still have very slight grammatical and phonetic tells that are apparently obvious to people from elsewhere.
I use more long “O” sounds than people in the US which is apparently obvious almost immediately, and I have some odd grammar switch apparently singles me out as from NL very quickly to anyone in Canada.
Also, apparently the way I say “thirteen” has a stronger hint of Newfoundland in it than the rest of my speech, at least according to one of my co-workers from Ontario.
It’s quite possible that having such a wide ranging family same social circle has simple acclimated you to the various regional differences in dialect.
It’s exaggerated.
I watch a lot of Canadian Youtube, it’s totally a mix.
80% of the time it’s identical to US about
19% of the time it’s aboawt.
1% of the time it’s totally a-boot.
With a US English ear, it’s jarring. (not in a bad way) but we totally notice it.
Not eveyone does it. Linus from Linus tech tips drops one every few shows, but then Electro Boom never does. Bobsdecline does it a little less often.
It’s kind of like the US and Brittish people saying Idear instead of idea. it happens once in a while
its more like “a-boat”. I’ve never even been to Canada, but I can often spot a Canadian on TV within moments based on how they speak.
How does an American pronounce it?
A vast majority of the Canadians I know pronounce it the same way as “out”, “sprout”, “trout” etc.
Like Ah-bout… “bout” pronounced like a fight between two people.
Yeah that’s the same up here for most folks I know.
I think “oot” emphasises the difference from US accents for parody reasons, and also it’s just not that simple to describe that difference by substituting a single letter of the alphabet. The best way I can think of to describe it (based on experience with friends from BC) is like a combination of “oht” and “oat”
I’m in the US and I have to support this analysis. I dated someone from Canada when I was younger, and at first he expressed the same thought as the poster above - he didn’t hear the difference, so he didn’t get it.
Until he came to visit me in the states. The difference between how his dad and my dad talked was so apparent, the stereotype just “clicked.” To say “aboot” is definitely an exaggeration, but in all fairness, it’s really hard to repeat a sound that isn’t in your native dialect. There is no US-English equivalent for the “ou” sound in Canadian English “about.”
It’s like when a Japanese speaker uses a Z sound instead of English TH - it’s not because Z is exactly what they hear when an English person says TH, but because the TH sound doesn’t exist in Japanese at all. In both cases (and so many more across the world), speakers substitute non-standard sounds with ones they already know.
Same, never heard ‘aboot’ in my life. However, I do tend to say ‘-eh’ all the time, especially at the end of sentences as emphasis.
It’s harder to make a joke with zed vs zee.
East Coast thing in my experience. Especially more rural
They sure like taking advantage of our flags to avoid their personal responsibilities instead of properly protesting Washington’s antics for decades.
Stop being imperialist!
It’s easy to tell. Just ask an american to say lieutenant. Spell it out and ask them to say it. I am not going to give it away so they start using it. You will know as we have a very unique way of saying it.
BC citizen sweats with her west coast accent.
They’ve been taking advantage of us for decades, while we have 10x the resources per capita that they do, and now they want to cry and whine about unfair treatment?
Fuck them. Let them find out.
The headline is just false. Please use words accurately. If you’re talking about the government, don’t name the citizens instead. Amateur hour.
Explain?
I mean, it looks pretty chock full of facts when you look what the title says and the article…
Title:
6 in 10 Canadians say they can never trust Americans the same way againThe most revealing part of the article:
Six in 10 Canadians (60 per cent) say they can never trust the Americans the same way ever again, the poll found.
Seems the same as the title (to me, at least)
Added bonus pic to really ram home how the title and article are saying the same thing:
Over half of canadians don’t trust america anymore, so how is the title false?
They need to define “America”
That’s a continent. Two, actually. What does it mean to trust a land mass?
You never noticed that people from the USA are called “Americans” and that many people across the world call the USA “America?”
I’ve noticed a lot of stupid people say a lot of stupid stuff in my life, yes
Can’t trust Americans or can’t trust the United States because those are two inherently different groups.
both… after electing a convicted felon and rapist to the presidency for a SECOND time, Americans cannot escape responsability in my books
I can’t blame you. But to quote a movie … “A person is smart. But people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals…”
precisely, I don’t hate Americans, I just can’t trust them blindly
I trust that their only interest and motivation is money.
Can’t trust Americans or can’t trust the United States because those are two inherently different groups.
Did I miss the violent military coup?
I mean, there was that one guy that riled up his supporters to attack the capital. But then 70% of “Americans” participated in his democratic election as President just a few months ago.
Are you suggesting we trust those guys?
There may have been thousands of guns there on Jan 6th but they only found like three in the hands of civilians. You’ll know if Americans get riled up enough to attack the capital.
And no, 70% of the population didn’t vote for him, he got just under 50% of the votes, but that was only about 23% of Americans.
In the sense that the government and the people are misaligned? Or is this one of those “you’re united statesian, there are 30 countries in America” takes?
The first. I don’t even know what the second thing is. 🤷
Ah, Threads and some other lower quality social media are full of people making snarky comments to users from the States, saying something to the effect of “we are also in the Americas, so we’re Americans, you’re a US-ian”.
It all basically stems from the fact that in Spanish, the demonym for people from the US is “estadounidense” (United-Statesian) whereas “America” is used to refer to all of North and South America as a regions. People are too dumb to realise “America” has a different connotation in the two languages and it devolves into flame wars.
This is almost 100% a latin american thing. They’re taught that the americas are a single continent. For some reason they’re really stuck on this point as if it’s some kind of gotcha (it isn’t). Everyone (including them) are aware of what nation is being discussed when we say america/americans. They should just get over it.
Well, one makes the other.
Sorta… But only about 65% of us voted in the last election and of that only 50% voted for these douchebags. And of those, most of them voted that way because of a single R. So I’d guess around 75% of the people don’t agree with what is going on.
So as a concrete example, I’m an American and I’d go out of my way to help most anyone but I am not the United States.
only about 65% of us voted in the last election and of that only 50% voted for these douchebags
So what you are saying is that the overwhelming majority of you participated in the election of Donald Trump.
Got it.
What was your other point again?
Sorry but the 35% who didn’t vote, knowing the threat of Trump becoming president again was looming, are no different than those who voted Republican.
The whole world remember his first presidential term. And we all saw the Project 2025 playbook. The US is in a mess of its own creation.
As a Brit, I too have lost trust in Americans unless proved otherwise.
Oh I know, I don’t blame you in the least. I’m losing trust in my fellow Americans. The whole process was just a major fustercluck. I woke up the morning after with a serious case of dread of what was about to happen. The apathy in this country is a major issue no doubt. I’m hopeful that as shit gets worse and worse, the apathy goes away. If it doesn’t, then Handmaid’s Tale becomes more of a playbook and less a work of fiction.
Handmaid’s Tale becomes more of a playbook
It already is.
Project 2025 intentionally leads to Gilead.
We are definitely in the first few chapters.
Americans always tell themselves these lies. Yes, only 65% voted, but the ones who didn’t vote weren’t all non-voting democrats. About half would have voted Trump if they’d voted. It’s not some small minority that supported Trump, it was a majority.
Not voting was a vote for anti democracy. So they got what they didn’t vote for.
The ones who preferred Harris, sure. The ones who preferred Trump got what they wanted without having to vote.
okay so you’re saying that we should be safe and play the odds and not trust any americans since the grand majority did nothing to stop this
Sure not everyone is on board, especially how it’s going lately, but you do spell it out kind of. Only 65% voted, that’s 35% who just decided to like give up or something. A third of you. Then a third voted MAGA, a thorn other.
That’s the danger of the stupid third.
Right now, they are a danger for more than just Canadians.
I’m not trying to be an apologist. I’m just saying most of us aren’t that stupid, xenophobic, and racist. But some of us definitely are.
I disagree. Drive out to rural Ontario, read the literal Trump and PPC signs, we’re no better than any Red State.
Oof… sorry.
Look, you may be a wonderful person. I know very little about you individually.
But, by your own numbers, the best we can say about almost 3/4 of Americans is that they are complicit in what is happening. The last election proved that they are at least “ok” with a second Trump administration even after everything that was said and done before election day.
Given that, I hope you can understand why the rest of the world needs to take a different view than “most of us aren’t that stupid, xenophobic, and racist”.
Your own evidence (that you presented) does not support your conclusion.
My only conclusion is that the pain numbers haven’t reached a point that requires action. Most people can’t see the forest for the trees and are painfully oblivious to what is going on because of whatever reason. Stupidity, willfully ignorance, it’s hurting the”right” people more, etc.
And by “my numbers” it’s more like 50%-60%. I just want you to understand that just because the government is doing it, doesn’t mean a plurality of the citizens feel the same way. Hell even some of the most ardent GOPers are starting to balk at the shit that’s happening.
Now, with that said, I would not come to the US as a foreigner for any reason right now whatsoever. It’s just not worth it.
By your numbers, 30% of Americans voted to keep Trump away from the Presidency. The other 70% did nothing to keep him out of office.
70% of Americans were happy enough with a Trump presidency that they at the very least did not lift a finger to prevent it. And 50% of the 70% actively supported him.
Was there a car show on that day?
Why now do we want to say that the 70% that enabled Trump “do not feel the same way”?
"I can’t help it. It’s who I am. It’s in my nature.” said the American to the Canadian
:'(
Wow! That’s like fifty percent. Those wacky polls.
I wonder how many never trusted them in the first place.
Every American is the enemy. Unless they deal.with their leader.
We Minnesotans are hoping to be annexed by Canada
