• RedSnt 👓♂️🖥️@feddit.dk
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    15 days ago
    Trying to keep a public torrent alive is hard work, but someone has to do it.

    Back when I had VDSL and even ADSL, I’d try to hit 1.1 ratio because if everyone did that the risk of information being lost would be close to 0%. Nowadays with gigabit internet, all that prevents me from seeding is hard drive space, and 8 TB doesn’t fill up quickly with how few good movies and series there are these days. I guess that’s one way to stop piracy, just make fewer and worse series/movies.

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    15 days ago

    I have now a ratio of 9.1 and 250TB of uploaded…

    Also my hard drive is getting full. I guess I have to clean up some torrents soon.

    Or buy new storage

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          Nothing “almost” about it. Retail drives are available right now at 30tb. Although, the more reasonable price/GB is at around 8tb with occasional outliers.

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            Yeah i knew they were coming but last I saw they’d only released them in the mid 20TB range and was too lazy to look it up.

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        15 days ago

        Thats really not that big in terms of a NAS. Some crazy fuckers on reddit had literal PETABYTES of storage.

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            Yeah. Normal people have about 100tb of total space. My 96tb (64tb usable) of space is completely average and not at all an indicator of something being wrong or abnormal.

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              Not saying its wrong, but most people probably don’t even approach 10tb. 100tb+ is definitely not the norm. Normies balk at my 50tb, and I’m definitely on the low end of data hoarding.

            • Venia Silente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              15 days ago

              Maybe for Americans storage falls from trees, could you share what is this normal supermarket where I can buy 100tb of total space?

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                Oh. I was joking. I’m aware that my storage capabilities really are an outlier, even though I still feel inadequate whenever I go to a hoarding community.

                I’ve spent around 1200$ USD since I started collecting things back on 2021, which is about 300/year, or 25/month. I don’t expect to purchase anymore for another three years or so, right around when a 24tb drive drops to 150/each. It’s still not like, super cheap or anything though.

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      15 days ago

      Buy more storage, but also… join private trackers when they open signups. You’d be amazing there.

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        Public tracker: You are the hero, getting a 30:1 upload ratio in a mere 30 days. “Wow, this shit is easy!”

        Private tracker: “Please… can this torrent even reach 10% upload? It’s been an ENTIRE YEAR! I have 500 torrents in the same state!”

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          Most private trackers have some sort of bonus point system now where you earn points per hour of seeding per torrent, regardless of how much data you actually upload. You can then use those points to buy upload credit and raise your ratio

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          There are some niche private trackers which have an active community that handle quality and requests. Also they don’t let just anyone create a torrent, so you can have assurances that the files have been vetted to some extent and you’re not going to download something unexpected.

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          14 days ago

          The advantage of private trackers is that:

          • torrents almost always have seeds
          • you can ask for re-seeds in case they aren’t
          • torrents have a good quality
          • you’re less likely to receive a complaint letter from copyright holders
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    15 days ago

    just had a silly idea: stopping your torrent right as it starts to seed (to avoid ISP letters) is like pulling out as a form of birth control

    • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      15 days ago

      Coitus interruptus

      One of the few latin expression I memorized, because that’s how the Catholic Church calls it since that’s their recommended “contraception” method, all of which I find hilarious.

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      15 days ago

      That’s… not how it works. A law firm rep (usually) just has to connect to the swarm and see what IPs are there. It matters not if you share, being in the swarm is enough for them to send your ISP a notice of infringement. So as others said, use protection.

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      15 days ago

      Has the law in any jurisdiction determined that sharing some small fraction of bits is equivalent to sharing an entire series of bits? And how do they determine that? Like I’m sending 1s and 0s right now. Is that a violation?

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        I mean, at that point everything is legal if we pretend to just send “random” 0s and 1s

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          But there must be some kind of burden of proof, right? If I leech 0.001% of a file, have I really pirated that file? If yes, then how small does the amount go? If no, then how large does it go? Or if they have to prove intent, well then that can go to trial…

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        Did a little digging around. It looks like they manage to get discovery judgments all the time over partial downloads, but I don’t see them actually taking anyone to court for anything less than a full file.

        Once you have the entire file available, it’s hard to shimmy around the distribution claims. Wouldn’t it be super effing interesting if everyone’s torrent client specifically picked a random block and refused to give it to anyone?

        I’m not sure it would hold up in court, but it would be interesting.

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    Friendly reminder that seedboxes are definitely worth it. Go for a seedbox if you can afford it

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      15 days ago

      And join private trackers, quality is better and you pretty much get seeds all the time.

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        15 days ago

        I have a great seeding record, but cant find any private trackers to join…

        Where do i start?

        i only re-started my torrenting activities in the last few years since the streaming landscape has become a hellscape

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    15 days ago

    People should learn how to seed. If you don’t want to seed, just pay for Usenet.

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      15 days ago

      It’s a shame Usenet has become fully paid. It’s what ultimately pushed me into torrents. And the fact that small communities don’t have all the content out there for you to download via Usenet.

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        Downloading large files from Usenet was paid pretty early on. If the core functionality of Usenet is now paid, this is news to me.

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          What do you consider large files? Isn’t the article size usually limited to something like 1mb (it’s been a while since I used Usenet)?

          So it would technically be about the number of articles rather than the eventual size of the combined archive? At the core it’s all still text right?

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            Pirated media(images, movies, ebooks, ROMs) uses binary posts, not text. There are different limits and retention policies for binary versus text articles, and most Usenet servers, particularly cheap or free ones, don’t host a lot of the categories a pirate would want at all.

            Please don’t imply that all Usenet providers facilitate piracy.

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          There weren open test servers though and sites with limited trials but no data limit.

          That’s what I used back in the day. Sadly all these trial offers are gone now and demand credit card information upfront.

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    Personally I enjoy seeing the numbers go up. Looking at the current top ten by ratio according to my torrent client most of them are obscure things that I’m probably the only one seeding — but the number one spot, at a ratio of 565, goes to “Shrek (2001) [1080p]”.

  • Venia Silente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I used to seed in the old days, but I feel it has become more complicated now.

    The primary issue (before eg.: CGNAT or port-opening issues) is it’s become more and more often the case that I post-process what I download before use (rename / reencode music albums, reencode movies) so it makes little sense to keep the old files only for seeding. In theory a “seedbox” (those are the trendy thing this decade, right?) would help solve this, but I’m still rather new and have not found any FOSS, PII-free offerings in the market.

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      Exactly the situation I’m facing. Despite torrents being a popular choice, it just doesn’t provide an easy way to manage your seeds.

      Of course I have found some potential solutions. Seedbox is one of them. There’s also the *arr suite, which is a more local solution that utilises hard links - but im not sure if it’ll be effective if you want to reencode.

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      Exactly this. I don’t need 1080P or 4k mp4 rips with 10bit audio, and I definitely don’t have the storage for it, but when that’s all that is seeding, its usually quicker to just download it and re-encode.

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      I mostly seed stuff that’s on the verge of being lost media and my ratio is often insane because there just aren’t other seeds. Ironically for many old/unpopular films the Internet Archive is a better than any torrents.

      The comment on this internet archive review in particular had me laughing.

      • katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zone
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        internet archive is amazing; i found a 100gb woodstock 94 bootleg vhs collection of the 3 day ppv recording and it took like 2 days to download despite only having 1-2 seeders

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    I used to seed everything religiously. Then I joined some private trackers, and suddenly I felt like I needed to conserve all that upload bandwidth for torrents on private trackers. Humans kinda suck. I still seed plenty, tho:

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    When VPNs are paid to not get fined, and only distributors get fined, don’t blame me for not doing jackshit to contribute.

    Your whining is music to my ears.