https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/movies/best-movies-21st-century.html

96. Black Panther (Ryan Coogler, 2018)

There’s so much to love. It’s a superhero spectacle that actually has something important to say, about how identity, history and responsibility intersect. Wakanda, the Afrofuturistic world where the story takes place, is a visual wonder. The women (played by Angela Bassett, Danai Gurira, Lupita Nyong’o and Letitia Wright — all excellent) aren’t just sidekicks or love interests. Michael B. Jordan, as the tragically villainous Killmonger, has never been more swoon worthy. And, of course, Chadwick Boseman shines in the title role, sadly one of his last before dying of cancer.

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    It breaks out of the typical Marvel formula, Black Panther doesn’t.

    Marvel formula:

    Main character shares a tragic backstory with the villain who turns into a bigger, badder version of the hero.

    Iron Man - Iron Monger
    Hulk - Abomination
    Iron Man - Whiplash
    Thor - Loki
    Captain America - Red Skull

    Iron Man - Extremis
    Thor - Malekith
    Captain America - Winter Soldier
    Avengers - Ultron
    Ant-Man - Yellowjacket

    Avengers - Avengers (Civil War)
    Doctor Strange - Kaecilius
    Star Lord - The Living Planet (his dad!)
    Spider-Man - Vulture
    Thor - Hela
    Black Panther - Killmonger

    I mean, you can’t exactly fault Marvel for running the formula over and over again when every time they run it, it makes a billion dollars.

    But by the time Black Panther came out, you could count on one hand the times they didn’t run the formula:

    The Avengers
    Guardians of the Galaxy

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            14 hours ago

            All it takes, Killmonger is a dark mirror of T’Challa, same as any of the others listed, from Obidiah Stane onward.

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                  Yeah, the same power set isn’t grasping. But is Darren Cross a shadowy reflection of Steve Rogers because they’re both American? The nationality part is grasping.

                  And so the same power set MIGHT mean that Killmonger’s a shadowy reflection of T’Challa (and I say “MIGHT” because is Captain Love a shadowy reflection of Zorro just because they’re both good with swords? Would making him a fellow Californian make him one? Is every boxer that Rocky fights a “shadowy reflection” of him, just because they’re fellow boxers?), but does that mean that Black Panther is the same movie as all other Marvel movies? Not really. “The hero and villain have similar abilities” is ultimately a very small part of the overall movie. This entire line of criticism of the movie is a stretch, and seems more like a post-facto rationalization for dislike of the movie that comes from somewhere else.