• MTK@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    It kills me that no matter what, it is always white and gold for me, EVEN THOUGH REALITY SAYS OTHERWISE!

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    5 months ago

    There was also this bro science take, which is debunked:

    When you see white and gold you are happy and when you see black and blue you are depressed.

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      Yes. The people who see white and gold must not register the yellow indoor light of the picture and are probably very outdoorsy people.

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        Hm, this is interesting - I am indeed “outdoorsy” and could only see “white and gold in shadow”. I think this might also be because of the highlight on the right suggesting that it’s daylight all around and the dress is in deep shadow, and the blue color is also highly reminiscent of “white cloth in deep shadow”. This XKCD helped me clear up the confusion and now if I squint I can see both color schemes:

        https://xkcd.com/1492/

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        I’ve actually experienced the perceptual shift from blue and black to white and gold. The moment was fleeting, but definitely registered white and gold. And then back to blue and black, and I’ve never been able to replicate the shift.

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          I’m usually pretty good at shifting between the two ways to perceive optical illusions. But for this one I cannot see anything but white and gold. Even knowing that it’s actually blue and black, I still see it as that.

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        5 months ago

        Brother I’m more vampire than man and I can only see white and gold. I have no idea how to use it as black and blue

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        5 months ago

        The link looks blue and black but the post still looks white and gold…

        Edit: IT CHANGED TO BLACK AND BLUE WHILE I WAS LOOKING AT IT

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          This literally clears up nothing for me and I’m about to lose it. It’s still fucking blue and black

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            The real dress is actually blue and black, yes, but the illustration tries to show how the exact same colours can look different depending on lighting and context.

            In the diagram, the dress on the left is strongly blue and black, while the dress on the right is strongly white and yellow.

            And yet the connected parts of the dresses with the “pipes” between them show the exact same colour on one dress can look like a different color on the other. The “pipe” is there so you can follow it with your own eyes from one side to the other and observe that it is indeed the same colour on both sides, despite looking very different when observed as part of the whole image.

            The point being, how our brains perceive colour is very situationally dependent, and some people assume a different situation than others, hence the differences in perception.

            People tend to believe that vision is absolute, that we all have the same eyes and see the same things, but that’s absolutely not true. The dress phenomenon occurred because It’s not about what your “eyes” see in absolute terms, it’s about what your “brain” does with that information.

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            if you’re in a room with yellow lighting, then the “black” actually looks black. but if the lighting in the room is blue, then the “black” looks yellow. it’s the different surrounding colors that makes one certain color look like 2 different colors

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            What finally worked for me on the image above is to look at the yellow dress on the image above on my phone, then zoom in on the part in blue light, then squint so I barely see what I’m doing and move the zoomed in section so that it only shows the party of the black and blue dress in yellow light, and then open my eyes again. Then it finally looked yellow and white.

        • Valmond@lemmy.world
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          This explains it neatly, the “gold” (which isn’t a color btw) is just brown, and the blue is quite light.

          It’s all about contrasts, put a color near a light one and it appears darker, put it near a darker one and it appears lighter.

          Bet the bordercolor on different browsers/phones made it look more one way or another.

          Also, cold shadows are devoid of yellow so a blue is easily mistaken for a shadow. The impressionist used this trick a lot, light blue/cyan for shadows. Sounds crazy but it works.

          Very clever trick.

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    5 months ago

    The blue of the dress is pretty obvious, the black details are a different, golden hue due to ambient light. I “know” it’s black, but it looks dark gold

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    …shortly after, the internet broke people’s brains though addictive feed algorithms and everyone lost their minds. But then Lemmy was born to restore the internet to an early more fun time. Lemmy just hopes that one day it will have its own dress moment.

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    I’ve only ever seen it as blue and black. I can’t force it the other way like I could with Laurel and Yani. Y’all seeing white and gold astound me.

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        Same. But now after all these years, there are enough people in here that are pedants/trolls and flatly saying they can only see white and gold.

        It makes me question my own abilities. Sure, I see the dress for what it actually is, but am I lacking the ability to trick my brain into seeing an illusion? Is that a lack of something like imagination? Am I broken?

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    I never really understood the debate. In reality, if you were standing in front of the dress it is black and blue. Now, if you take a digital photo of the dress and post it on the internet as a terribly compressed jpg, with weird white balancing, and brightness/contrast turned up and down it is gold and white. The debate isn’t really about the reality of the color of the dress but the reality of a badly edited photo.

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        5 months ago

        What always confused me is, the picture clearly seems to be overexposed, which means the blue/black interpretation should be obvious.

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          I agree. But my wife was so firmly in the white/gold camp that I had to find this (and a better image of the actual dress, which is indeed blue and black) to help us understand one another’s perspective.

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          It’s because we’re also very used to seeing photographs of a subject in shade while the background is in full sunlight. If you take a picture of a white and gold dress in the shadow of a patio, with the background all fully lit by bright sunlight, the actual pixels representing white objects in the shade would be that bluish gray tint.

          The problem here is that the dress isn’t in the shade but those of us who see white and gold simply assume that it is in shade, while black/blue viewers (correctly) assume that it is under the same lighting conditions of the overexposed background.

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      if you take a digital photo of the [ … thing … ] and post it on the internet as a terribly compressed jpg

      That sums up the entirety of the content on a number of popular subs on the R-word site.

      Confusing perspective? No. More like confusing JPEG artifacts.

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        You used to be able to report shit for not being confusing, but it was placebo at best. That site sucks so much.

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    I currently see blue/light blue and black+gold, but no white. If I remember correctly I never saw white.

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    I love the way everyone was saying it was white and gold.

    Until the science came out.

    And everyone claimed to have always seen blue and black.

    • auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      5 months ago

      What science lol.

      The pixels are light blue and gold.

      The dress itself is dark blue and black.

      But the pixels side with the white and gold team. They are seeing the pixels as they appear. If you see blue and black your subconscious is over-riding the objective reality of the pixels (and guessing correctly what colours the original dress is).

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      Fun fact: I can see both.

      Some times when I look at it it’s blue and black. Some times when I look at it it’s white and gold. I can make them flip back and forth.

      Altering perception is cool.

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      Is that the question though? Sure the dress is blue/black but the photo itself is light ass blue (white) and gold.

      I dont care about science or the true color. The question is the photo. Included all the color changes and whatever. Call it light blue and gold thats fine but no black.

      Take the filter off, yes it’s the actual color but thats not the question.

  • enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 months ago

    the first time ever I see this image, years ago, I could see both gold-white and blue-black. I don’t know why I can only see gold-white now.