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Note, I’m neither American, nor heavily in that scene. I’m merely signal boosting what I feel is important information countering lib propaganda.

  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPM
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    10 days ago

    A single blurry still doesn’t pose a convincing argument that he was or wasn’t pointing the weapon towards the crowds.

    We don’t go around making plausible reasons and then asking the victim to prove them wrong. Maybe the killers are lying to cover their ass?

    Facts on the ground is: Arturo didn’t shoot anyone, had a right to carry, a bystander was killed by the “good guys” and Arturo was shot himself. Nothing in all of this proves that Arturo was a danger to anyone.

    • ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      10 days ago

      Just because he didn’t shoot anyone, doesn’t mean his alleged actions wouldn’t cause the same reaction or worse from any other reasonable person.

      Again, things aren’t lining up with the two sides/stories.

      • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPM
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        10 days ago

        Ye which is why I’m inclined to believe the non-killer’s story rather than the ones with the most incentive to lie

          • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPM
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            10 days ago

            Unless more evidence appears, I’m more inclined to believe the person who didn’t shoot anyone, even when they had plenty of opportunity to do so (in self defense no less) and have a history of protecting others.

            • ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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              10 days ago

              And I’m not telling you not to. I’m just saying I’m unconvinced, and without more factual information I can’t make a decision either way.

            • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              9 days ago

              Yep this really just seems like a tragedy from someone being overzealous. In the end only hurting allies. There’s no good outcome from this. But arguably the worst I think is to demonize an ally in an attempt to deflect blame. By shooting “preemptively” they’re where there blame lays unfortunately.

              I don’t necessarily think that there should be imprisonment or jail in this for anyone. It was all completely unintentional. And doesn’t serve any public good. But I think unfortunately a lot of people are going to want someone to crucify or demonize.