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Note, I’m neither American, nor heavily in that scene. I’m merely signal boosting what I feel is important information countering lib propaganda.

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    Ok but if he was armed and this ICE guy took shots at him why didn’t he fire back? That’s the whole point of him having a gun in the first place, right?

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      Maybe he panicked? Maybe he didn’t want to hit bystanders. None of us have been shot before, but from all I know, all rational thought easily goes out the window.

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          It is very unclear to me whether the “armed, yellow-vested ‘peacekeepers’” this and other articles keep talking about actually are jackbooted thugs or whether they were affiliated with 50501 and there to protect the protestors. It sounds more like the latter and that this was a case of antifascist friendly-fire.

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          Wow. Bigot.

          American jackbooted thuggery is a diverse rainbow of institutions and traditions. It’s kind of a huge part of american culture. Maybe don’t be so insensitive and flatten entire cultures into charicatures?

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            You know what, I was being sexist, too. Talking only about the jackbooted thugs, I completely ignored all their jillbooted sisters, and whatever other non-aligned-bootwear compadres as well.

            I’m so ashamed. I’m going to get up and clean our litter boxes and really huff that ammonia. It’s not much, but I hope it’s one step towards redemption.

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      It’s really hard to act predictably when there’s people pointing guns at each other.

      Like really really difficult. You don’t have any context for decisions, and everything feels kind of surreal. Anyone who says they know how they would act for sure is probably lying. Anyone who says they know for sure how someone else would act is probably talking shit.

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        the kind of ambient possibility that opens up when things are on the knife’s edge of violence

        Well that perfectly sums up my idle thoughts for the ~20 months I spent on pumps between Iraq and Afghanistan.

        Maybe also why all the innovations in fighting come from queers.

        I don’t understand what you’re trying to say here.

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          Oh. Most new doctrine that doesnt suck is from queer people. Sometimes, like the way the doctrine of ‘special forces’ was invented, it is itself a gay thing.

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            While I don’t want to take anything away from any queer pioneers in the war fighting space, that’s a broad enough claim that I’m gonna need a source to back it up.

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              Sacred band of thebes. Kinda the first special forces unit. Who touches whose dick was formalized.

              Early horse archers came from the same cultures as the first recorded hrt for trans women.

              There’s some stuff in the middle ages/renaisance. Fredrick the great, wasn’t he one of the big innovators in early pike&shot? Certainly about half as straight as alexander the great.

              There’s a bunch i can’t think of right now because im very high.

              I know T.E. Lawrence was either gay or ace.

              I thimk there’s also a big modern naval one, but it gets harder to know starting ~100 years ago