• TachyonTele@piefed.social
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    12 days ago

    Great idea.
    Hopefully they’re not already five deep on you and have you handcuffed and took your phone.

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      12 days ago

      Hopefully they’re not already five deep on you

      Its fine, I’m into that. Or I can pretend to be.

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    12 days ago

    They wear the masks so they can’t be identified. They don’t want their kids friends and school friends to know that what they do.

    • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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      12 days ago

      I don’t think they care what their family thinks of them … I think they care about how angry democratically minded citizens see them as unidentified fascists hiding behind masks

      If what you are doing is legal, legitimate and moral … then you never have to mask your name or hide your face

      If what are doing is illegal, immoral and highly dangerous to everyone including you and your family and you know it … then you are more apt to want to hide your identity and avoid having to deal with the repercussions of what you know is wrong

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        12 days ago

        If what you are doing is legal, legitimate and moral … then you never have to mask your name or hide your face

        Disregard this, hide your face at protests people

    • LordGimp@lemm.ee
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      12 days ago

      Maybe we just start targeting the kids at school. Everybody knew at least one little loudmouth waste of oxygen who COULD NOT shut his fucking air hole about how his mom/dad was a cop. Just point them out to the nearest PDF file (read: conservative projectionist) and let nature take its course

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        12 days ago

        That’s gonna be a non starter. If you ever have a thought that starts with “target kids” keep it to yourself and work on it.

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          12 days ago

          It didn’t start there. It took 30 years to get past “we’ve tried everything to teach them to be human” and now it’s time to check what’s coming up on the list.

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            12 days ago

            Yeah still not ever going to be viable or acceptable. Once you bring kids into this to get what you want, you are a republican/Nazi.

            Fuck that.

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    12 days ago

    i was under the impression that the guy was just wearing basic police uniform stuff like the blue outfit and maybe a utility belt, but this freak had bizarre tactical crap and a LATEX SKIN MASK that completely covered his head

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    12 days ago

    Don’t even engage; just call 911 immediately. If they’re not proactively proving their legitimacy they’re already guilty.

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    12 days ago

    No. When an armed, masked man with no ID assaults you, you fucking shoot him dead, or do your damnedest.

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    12 days ago

    Before you finish your first word, you’ll be facedown on the floor by 4 ICE officers telling you not to “resist”

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    12 days ago

    Utterly delusional to think any of that would work. At every step you would just get your face beaten in. When the cops come they too will just beat your face in.

    Thinking you can castle doctrine a squad of ICE agents is equally delusional. You could probably take a couple out but you’d still die in the end and be risking the lives of anyone that lives with you.

    The only solution is well known and already in practice in places like LA: have an active community response force that will show up and intimidate and harass the ICE agents. All of the previous delusions assume you, alone, can stop an ICE with just your privledge.

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      12 days ago

      No badges, no uniforms, driving unmarked cars and wearing masks? I think any person could successfully argue in court that they thought they were being kidnapped by criminals.

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        12 days ago

        You never get to court, that’s the point the previous comment is making.

        As an individual trying to stand up to them you’re somewhere between being either completely ineffectual or making the situation worse. Having the law on your side doesn’t matter because it’s impossible for you to summon the enforcement of it fast enough to help you, assuming they even would.

        A local community response that will mobilize and appear in your neighborhood in seconds is basically the only way to respond quickly with enough force for them to care about.

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          11 days ago

          Yes, but I have a justifiable defense.

          If I’m at risk of being thrown in a hole and forgotten about, I see that as my life is at risk. I will demand them to identify and if they don’t, that’s where the 2A comes in. At that point I’m literally fighting for my life however you look at it.

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          12 days ago

          The people in LA Matt have been tracking and following the ice vehicles to some extent. We need that everywhere.

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        12 days ago

        If ICE is coming for you, then you’re not seeing court. If you’re some interfering bystander then maybe you will. But then you’re plan to lie to the judge and say you didn’t know? The judge will see through you’re bullshit immediately.

        Like that could only work if you actually were ignorant and even then you’d have a long up hill legal battle to establish the precedent that its sometimes OK to shoot law enforcement. IANAL but I think thats a liberty the state has never been conceded.

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          12 days ago

          If you live in a society where masked gunmen, who are answerable to NO ONE can black-bag and kidnap you off the street, then it’s time for folks to have an honest talk with themselves about what kind of society they really live in.

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            11 days ago

            then it’s time for folks to have an honest talk with themselves about what kind of society they really live in

            The greatest! Amerikkkan society! The one they voted for!

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            11 days ago

            People who haven’t had this talk yet need to be aware that they’re late to class and should try to catch up.

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      12 days ago

      Tbh this is my plan if I see them, but starting with the calling 911 about the masked gunmen abducting my neighbor.

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        12 days ago

        You know the cops watch the news too and will immediately guess what your up to. At best this is just trolling the cops. At worst you’re calling back for ICE.

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          11 days ago

          What I’m up to? Trolling? PD and feds don’t work on deportation together. I call a dispatcher and tell them I see an armed abduction, they’re going to send someone.

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            11 days ago

            PD and feds don’t work on deportation together

            Only if the city has explicitly forbidden them from cooperating. Many more have cooperation agreements with them: https://themarkup.org/tools/2025/04/16/law-enforcement-ice-cooperation-tracker

            I call a dispatcher and tell them I see an armed abduction, they’re going to send someone.

            That’s assuming it isn’t standard procedure for ICE to alert local PD to prevent this very scenario.

            The only thing that can prevent ICE from abducting your neighbors is you and the rest of your neighbors working together.

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      12 days ago

      show up and intimidate and harass

      Well, show up and exercise first amendment rights certainly!

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      Sometimes you resist even if you know you will lose. At least it spends their time and exposes them to lawsuits.

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        12 days ago

        If you want to be as annoying as possible out of spite or martyrdom I can respect that. But that’s what it’d be.

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          yes, I know that anyone doing anything but whatever nonsense they’re told is a dissonant and personally conflicted thing for you. Sorry about that. Its not a comment on your choices, just a statement of my own. I couldnt care less what you do or why-- I’ve seen your comment history over time. We never agree on much. Truly-- Good luck to you, centrist.

          Life isnt easy, and I dont begrudge anyone not aligning to my worldview. Maybe what looks to be nonsensical to me is actually the right way-- I wouldnt be shocked to be wrong, compared to a centrist anyway. I’d be surprised if a right winger were right about much of anything.

          • sudo@programming.dev
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            I advocated for organizing community defense groups to harass and intimidate ICE agent, instead of individualist adventurism and you call me a centrist? Where you drunk when you wrote this?

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      11 days ago

      If you can’t stop them, taking a many out with you as you can is not the worst option.

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      12 days ago

      There were posters stapled to phone polls in my area with what to do when ice is around. Demand id, demand a warrent etc etc.

      The next day there were news stories of ice not even caring about any of that.

      They do not care about the law. Lock your door and hide. If you’re a neighbor tell them no one’s home. That’s about as much as you can do as an individual.

  • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Teethe > jugular arteries, for anyone who needs that pointed out, in case you find yourself in arms length of one of these terrorists.