• Godric@lemmy.worldOP
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    17 hours ago

    Completely unprovoked

    You either don’t know what’s been going on, or you do and don’t care. Either way, I don’t see the substance of interacting with you further.

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        15 hours ago

        No, I actually mean that building nuclear weapons is a very clear provocation to your enemies. Previous kid was arguing that Israel started bombing Iran for no reason. Building nukes is a pretty compelling reason to bomb a country from a realpolitik standpoint.

        My overall point is that both states are awful and deserve each other, and you shouldn’t cheer either of them on. There is no “good guy”. Anything else unclear?

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          Israel has bombed Iran because MAYBE they COULD develop nukes. And hadn’t the orange turd broken the deal with Iran they wouldn’t try to build nukes.

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          honestly-- does not Iran deserve to develop nuclear defense as russia, pakistan, israel, india, france and britain? MID european nations currently appreciate US defense/bases.

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      17 hours ago

      Oh we’re quoting the IAEA?

      Speaking on the final day of the IAEA Board of Governors meeting, Grossi warned that attacks on nuclear sites are in direct violation of the United Nations Charter, international law, and the Agency’s Statute.

      “I have repeatedly stated that nuclear facilities should not be targeted under any circumstances, as this could harm people and the environment. Such attacks have serious consequences for nuclear safety, security and safeguards, as well as regional and international peace and security,” Grossi stressed.

      -Rafael Grossi, Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)

      https://www.azernews.az/region/243249.html

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        16 hours ago

        Very nice point, it’s almost like the meme is pointing out neither state is “the good guy”, and nobody should be rooting for either of them.

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          I’m not allowed to be concerned with Israel fucking around with nuclear reactors and potentially creating a cherbobyl level meltdown illegally bombing them because Iran is a “bad guy”?

          What is this “good guy” “bad guy” politics you’re talking about?

          I’m not 3 you can use a bigger word.

          I think the better way to analyze this situation is as “attacker” and “defender”.

          Someone is starting a war, violating an international border, and instigating the first attacks. Who is it?

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          14 hours ago

          that is kind of where I am I feel badly for the families affected who are like us However, I have no sympathy for the governments of Iran and Israel Seriously - they are not my business. HOWEVER I support the refugees entering my community.

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            16 hours ago

            Up until two days ago, I thought it was pretty well established that Iran was an evil state that oppresses its citizens and funds terror groups. If tomorrow a bunch of people started talking about how green the sky is, you’d see a distinct uptick in how often I post about how the sky is blue.

            Pointing out Iran is an evil state after people start acting like it isn’t is not an agenda. Spam replying my comments in multiple subthreads where you aren’t replied to kinda feels like a really weird one though. Note added.

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      17 hours ago

      this agreement is a farce. Look what happened to Ukraine the moment they signed their nuke rights away.