• Anomalocaris@lemm.ee
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    1 day ago

    question

    I’ve been thinking today.

    it’s illegal to block the road, you can get in trouble for a sit in, or by parking on the road.

    but how about just driving on a road and respecting the speed limit?

    how many drivers do you need to all agree to drive on a specific road, in circles to congest it and create a nightmarish traffic jam.

    it’s better to be strategic and do so during rush hours. 50 protesters could easily halt the traffic of some main arteries. and really hurt the economy.

    • Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net
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      23 hours ago

      Stop giving a shit about what is illegal. It was made illegal because it was effective. The establishment doesn’t want you to be effective.

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        9 hours ago

        If the punishment for breaking a rule is a fine, then it’s not a rule meant to help people, it’s meant to give the wealthy power to do what they want.

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        22 hours ago

        if I’m detained I’m not getting arrainged and released, im getting deported and never seeing my daughters again

        or maybe end up in an Salvadorian prison

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          21 hours ago

          You forget the fact they are doing this to countless people regardless. They don’t get to make that choice to just sit this out.

          It’s called having solidarity with those being targeted, accepting the same risks they are being subjected to by simply existing, in order to help defend them against oppression. Part of that oppression is how the State has designed its laws to inhibit the ability of people to fight back against it.

          If you allow the opposition to dictate how you are allowed to resist, then you already lost because they will never just allow people to effectively resist their authority. Change requires mass civil disobedience.

          Or, continue to follow the rules of the oppressors, fail to effectively resist, and when they are done coming for their current target, they will eventually get around to coming for you, except by then you won’t have anyone around to help defend against it.

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            21 hours ago

            I’m sorry, but I’m calling you bs

            it’s not called having solidarity, I’m one of those at risk.

            that’s like saying vulnerable people at risk of COVID need to have solidarity to other people and go out without masks.

            I’m going to protests, I’m doing what i can, I volunteer in mutual aids, and I fear every moment that ICE will detain me and I’ll never see my daughters again.

            I’m not your pawn, and I’m already doing whatever I can while keeping myself safe. It’s American voters who put me in this situation. and now they want me to put myself at risk even more?

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              20 hours ago

              Then you should already understand that keeping your actions “legal” doesn’t guarantee protection, and that forgoing effective means of resistance only helps the oppressors to have an easier time oppressing your fellow people.

              The voters are not responsible for your oppression. The regime that is engaging in oppressive practices is.

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            Telling people to exceed the bounds of their own threat model is exclusive as hell. When you tell others to put themselves at more risk than they’re willing to take on you’re pushing them away. You’re giving them the impression they’re not wanted because there “not dedicated enough”. Don’t do that.

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          22 hours ago

          Only doing things that are legal won’t protect you, us the point. If that were the case, this wouldn’t be such a big deal.

          Not ‘you must do crimes’.