The Iranian regime is fucking awful, the Israeli one is just even more awful such that Iran still seem like the good guys in comparison. Its like two assholes fighting, they’re both assholes but one clearly started it.
Yeah it’s crazy how just last year Iranian girls were being raped the Iran’s government and now these trolls are acting as if Iran is better than Israel lmao.
Honestly no but if I lived in a country or bloc without nukes myself I’d want my government to get them because its the only way to not get randomly regime changed whenever the US, UK or Russia feels like it. Totally understandable why they would want them.
Well I never said that, so you’re just straw-manning because you can’t address what I actually said.
And again, funny how this “capacity for nuance” didn’t come out for Ukraine, only for the non-white country. Almost like liberals are ultimately just white supremacists.
Don’t worry, I understand that - while it may seems to be an analogous situation on the surface - Ukraine a White country and Iran is not, and to Western liberals, that makes all the difference in the world.
And yet Iran is literally where the “Aryians” originated who were idolized by Hitler.
, and to Western liberals, that makes all the difference in the world.
Here is the actual thing that makes all the difference in the world. It would be racist to think that Iranians don’t deserve human rights and freedom, which implies they aren’t as good as people in the west.
Iran has multiple enrichment sites, with a reported 83.7% pure U-235. Such purity is only needed for one thing, and it isn’t nuclear power plants which typically only need 3%-5% U-235.
Haleu fuel is pretty common that’s enriched up to about 20%. Highly enriched fuel is still used for nuclear power on aircraft carriers that use 93% enriched U235.
Iran is definitely just trying to make weapons but wanted to at least give some examples of higher enriched fuels
Being that we know Iran sells weapons to Russia, I wonder where it would be cheaper to produce weapons. Would it be cheaper for Russia to pay to have certain things created elsewhere or in Russia. We know a lot of Russia’s weapons in the past were built in what now is Ukraine. Examples would be their Aircraft Carriers, destroyers, etc. Hell one of their main Aircraft Carriers was named Kiev
They havent been in the process of developing them. They have been enriching Uranium to the level needed for developing a nuclear weapon.
Iran has always been “close” to develop nuclear weapons over the past years, to ensure that it can do so to defend itself in the case of an attack. Now with Israels unprecedented attack, it is more likely that Iran sees the need to actually develop a nuke to protect its existence.
Israel knows this and keeps pushing to quickly get the US involved beyond a point of no return and fight the war against Iran for them.
If you produce thick steel sheets, that is a requirement to build tanks, but it doesnt mean you are building tanks.
Now if you start welding those sheets together in a tank shape, while making all the other stuff that you find in a tank, now you are building a tank.
So if Iran starts building specific parts for nukes and processing the enriched Uranium in a way that is suitable for making a warhead, that would be building a nuke.
So if Iran starts building specific parts for nukes and processing the enriched Uranium in a way that is suitable for making a warhead, that would be building a nuke.
Which is precisely what they’re doing, unless you actually believe they want that level of enrichment for a power plant.
Israels attack follows a report from the IEAE stating that Iran has likely started the race to a bomb. They (Iran) have also recently expelled UN oversight from their enrichment sites.
I’m not defending Israel but what does that look like to you? Sure seems like for some people their hatred for Israel is clouding their objective judgement.
From all available intelligence, no. They clearly have a nuclear weapons program (which are insanely huge to begin with) but there has never been a measured test, and no evidence of enriched uranium at a high enough purity to be weaponized.
It’s insanely hard work to created weaponized enriched uranium. With the sanctions Iran has had for decades it would be next to impossible for them to get all the stuff they need to create it on their own.
Hasn’t Iran a religious edict stating they cannot build or use nukes? We could be in a iraki WMD phase again (expecting Powell’s jar to appear any moment now).
This. People don’t like it when I say the US is a Paper Tiger. uS power doesn’t come from its military strength but from its economic strength.
If pushed hard, it would crumble. The only reason the US has military bases all over is to scare those countries into submission to exploit their workforce. Yet, all those bases are fucking expensive to just maintain. If those countries resisted, then the US loses its economic strength gained from their exploitation, and its military crumbles when it cannot afford to satisfy both it’s military contracts and maintain its presence abroad.
Not to mention the internal turmoil when the citizens experience the affects on society when the oligarchy can’t subsidize the consumerist lifestyle anymore. Thought that’s happening already thanks to the imperial boomerang.
I doubt they can beat the US, but I hope Iran wins.
Terrorists like Israel need to be eliminated.
The only way that “Iran” can win is if/when the people overthrow the Supreme Dictator
It’s really hard to think china won’t intervene for economical interests
Give me whatever it is you’re smoking cause it’s probably a helluva drug.
Lemmy straight up cheering theocratic terrorists
Israel, Iran, or the US?
Yes.
The Iranian regime is fucking awful, the Israeli one is just even more awful such that Iran still seem like the good guys in comparison. Its like two assholes fighting, they’re both assholes but one clearly started it.
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Most likely a fucking idiot.
Yeah it’s crazy how just last year Iranian girls were being raped the Iran’s government and now these trolls are acting as if Iran is better than Israel lmao.
Israel been raping palestinians girls since it’s creation
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Someone ban this 1 day old troll. They’re clearly here just to troll
Someone ban this genocide denier
Genocide denier
Brainwashed dumb fuck
We’re not cheering for Israel
Nobody is “cheering” you fucking idiot. People got bombed.
Lol you’re going to have to be more specific than that, it just sounds like you don’t like Muslims
it seems to me you don’t like jews
I’d rather prefer both sides losing.
And then a proper democratic revolution on both sides again.
Only both of those? Shouldn’t the united snake and china both lose too?
Yes please! I can’t stand either regime.
Now do Russia and Ukraine
Do you really want Iran to have nukes though?
Just because Israel are horrible, doesn’t automatically make the people they’re fighting the good guys.
Honestly no but if I lived in a country or bloc without nukes myself I’d want my government to get them because its the only way to not get randomly regime changed whenever the US, UK or Russia feels like it. Totally understandable why they would want them.
Funny how liberals never say this about Ukraine and Russia. It’s only when non-whites fight back that they start bloviating about “both sides bad”
To be thinking that Iranians aren’t good enough to deserve human rights and democracy because they aren’t western/white sounds racist.
Funny how tankies always think “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. They have no capacity for nuance.
All your comments ahow that you have no nuance either
Feel free to call out these comments when you encounter them and provide nuance. I will keep trying to do the same :)
Sorry i mistaken you for another user
Sure, right here, where you’ve displayed no nuance at all.
Fair! I was following your example though :)
Whataboutism
Well I never said that, so you’re just straw-manning because you can’t address what I actually said.
And again, funny how this “capacity for nuance” didn’t come out for Ukraine, only for the non-white country. Almost like liberals are ultimately just white supremacists.
“non-whites fight back” is an interesting way to describe the fucked up, nuke happy, Ayatollah regime that’s plaguing Iran.
Imagine thinking this was remotely similar to Ukraine and Russia.
Don’t worry, I understand that - while it may seems to be an analogous situation on the surface - Ukraine a White country and Iran is not, and to Western liberals, that makes all the difference in the world.
And yet Iran is literally where the “Aryians” originated who were idolized by Hitler.
Here is the actual thing that makes all the difference in the world. It would be racist to think that Iranians don’t deserve human rights and freedom, which implies they aren’t as good as people in the west.
Russia, Iran - dictatorships.
Ukraine - democracy
Israel - democracy (but moving away)
Was Iran actually producing nuclear weapons?
Iran has multiple enrichment sites, with a reported 83.7% pure U-235. Such purity is only needed for one thing, and it isn’t nuclear power plants which typically only need 3%-5% U-235.
Haleu fuel is pretty common that’s enriched up to about 20%. Highly enriched fuel is still used for nuclear power on aircraft carriers that use 93% enriched U235.
Iran is definitely just trying to make weapons but wanted to at least give some examples of higher enriched fuels
Being that we know Iran sells weapons to Russia, I wonder where it would be cheaper to produce weapons. Would it be cheaper for Russia to pay to have certain things created elsewhere or in Russia. We know a lot of Russia’s weapons in the past were built in what now is Ukraine. Examples would be their Aircraft Carriers, destroyers, etc. Hell one of their main Aircraft Carriers was named Kiev
Would you know where I could buy some nuke myself? I have the right to defend myself!
Good I hope they gets it.
Every credible comment I’ve read says they’re in the process of developing them, the only group who says otherwise is Iran themselves.
They havent been in the process of developing them. They have been enriching Uranium to the level needed for developing a nuclear weapon.
Iran has always been “close” to develop nuclear weapons over the past years, to ensure that it can do so to defend itself in the case of an attack. Now with Israels unprecedented attack, it is more likely that Iran sees the need to actually develop a nuke to protect its existence.
Israel knows this and keeps pushing to quickly get the US involved beyond a point of no return and fight the war against Iran for them.
Isn’t that part of the process though?
It is a prerequirement.
If you produce thick steel sheets, that is a requirement to build tanks, but it doesnt mean you are building tanks.
Now if you start welding those sheets together in a tank shape, while making all the other stuff that you find in a tank, now you are building a tank.
So if Iran starts building specific parts for nukes and processing the enriched Uranium in a way that is suitable for making a warhead, that would be building a nuke.
Which is precisely what they’re doing, unless you actually believe they want that level of enrichment for a power plant.
No matter how many tires you are stockpiling, you aren’t manufacturing a car, unless you actually manufacture a car.
Israels attack follows a report from the IEAE stating that Iran has likely started the race to a bomb. They (Iran) have also recently expelled UN oversight from their enrichment sites.
I’m not defending Israel but what does that look like to you? Sure seems like for some people their hatred for Israel is clouding their objective judgement.
And that report follows a document leak showing the IEAE actively passing on confidential reports from Iran directly to Israel.
From all available intelligence, no. They clearly have a nuclear weapons program (which are insanely huge to begin with) but there has never been a measured test, and no evidence of enriched uranium at a high enough purity to be weaponized.
It’s insanely hard work to created weaponized enriched uranium. With the sanctions Iran has had for decades it would be next to impossible for them to get all the stuff they need to create it on their own.
Username checks out lmao
Psychopathic fuck
Hasn’t Iran a religious edict stating they cannot build or use nukes? We could be in a iraki WMD phase again (expecting Powell’s jar to appear any moment now).
Most definitely. I want every country on Earth to have their own nuclear weapons. It’s the ultimate deterrent.
You want 195 countries to have nukes?
Then, it’s just a matter of time until a bug in some software or a crazy leader that was or wasn’t elected lead to the worst case.
Crazy leaders like netenysho and trump have them
And that’s a reason to give them to 193 other potential crazy leaders, too?
Either that or all country get rid of their nuclear weapons
Either we kill our species or we complete an almost impossible task…?
You are so delusional
That is acceptable. Either we’ll enter great times, or we will no longer be capable of understanding what good times are. Both sound good to me.
Browsing Lemmy feels more and more like listening to people in a crack house discussing global politics.
To be fair, I only comment when I’m feeling sleepy.
Please stop ad go sleep instead.
If the country who drop two has it, why not?
given how the US lost so many recent wars, I wouldn’t consider the US a military power.
they are great at funneling taxpayer money to shareholders pockets. but they can’t win against the protest people in the world.
they invade, try to set up a puppet state, then leave with the tail between their legs.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.
Ironically, many have tried (so now we know the result. And the proverb)…
This. People don’t like it when I say the US is a Paper Tiger. uS power doesn’t come from its military strength but from its economic strength.
If pushed hard, it would crumble. The only reason the US has military bases all over is to scare those countries into submission to exploit their workforce. Yet, all those bases are fucking expensive to just maintain. If those countries resisted, then the US loses its economic strength gained from their exploitation, and its military crumbles when it cannot afford to satisfy both it’s military contracts and maintain its presence abroad.
Not to mention the internal turmoil when the citizens experience the affects on society when the oligarchy can’t subsidize the consumerist lifestyle anymore. Thought that’s happening already thanks to the imperial boomerang.
you taught me the term “paper tiger” thanks.
You are welcome, prehistoric arthropod from the Cambrian period.
Israel is the US