• SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
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    Free where I live.

    And why do you think the family still can’t be involved? Your parents likely don’t know everything, and there’s recent discoveries to know about too. Even with family support, you should still do all the above as well. Prepare yourself, don’t expect others to always be there.

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      Lotta people lose their families

      To christianity, fascism, just being personally shitty

      Edit: oooooh downvoting. Don’t want to be reminded how christianity shatters families?

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        No, you’re downvoted for being incredibly stupid. People with lost families are not part of the discussion about why we don’t let family help as much anymore. Because in that case it’s very obvious

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      I’m not advocating against medical/professional help, but you were replying to a comment talking about the erosion of community. Also, this kind of help is not free in the vast majority of the world, afaik. Apart from EU, Japan, China, and maybe a few other small countries, it costs quite a lot.

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        And I was providing examples where there is communities still available. Just because one door is shut, doesn’t mean they all close. There’s free community programs in lots of places too. Don’t miss all the good to just complain about a few negatives.

        Kids are expensive, what a shocker. Did you expect raising kids to be free and easy? Because maybe that’s why more parents need parental classes, to actually properly know how to ready their kids for their own kids.

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          Not easy, but it should be relatively cheap. If the community is there, it should be cheap. There should be free healthcare, free schooling, and paid leave for parenting. It’s still gonna be hard, but not costly to raise a kid. Making it expensive is a product of capitalism.

          And I was providing examples where there is communities still available.

          Maybe I am missing something, but I don’t see that in your original reply.

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            Those are pretty cheap and are available in civilized countries. We have health care, schooling, paid leave for parenting. It’s still expensive to have kids, stuff just costs money. You can garden to lower the costs yourself, but that requires work, which people don’t want to do.

            Parental classes are a community, ours even stayed in touch and still talk semi regularly. We used to get together with the dozen kids every 3 months.

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            What do you think parenting classes is? It’s a community to learn as a group with other parents the hardships of parenting in TODAYS age? A doula provides support, and a midwife provides medical assistance.

            You can also go on Facebook and join a mom or parental group, options exist, always have, always will. They’ve modernized in a sense. Go out in your community and find your community center, see what programs they have.

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              If you think online groups are the same, I don’t have anything to say to you. Also, you’re blissfully ignoring that not everyone can do that. You mentioned that you have access to free midwives. I hope you realize that it’s a privilege that most don’t have.

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                Online groups, in person at your local hall, sometimes things require a little effort on your own and isn’t just handed to you.

                Having a parent there for them is also a privilege that most don’t have. If you look, you can always find the negative in everything. There’s options, I’m sorry that you feel the need to gatekeep them.